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ej
May 6, 2008, 6:40:10 PM5/6/08
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All,
I have a PXIe-1062Q chassis being controlled by my NI-8353 1U controller via a PCIe-8372 to PXIe-8370 link (x4 PXI Express link). I would like to connect a PXI-1056 chassis and control both chassis with the 1U controller. I was told by my inside sales rep (who go the information from a tech) that this was possible by daisy-chaining the two chassis together using two PXI-8360 MXI Experss cards. The 1st card is placed in the last slot of the PXIe-1062Q and the 2nd card is placed in the controller slot of the PXI-1056. I have confirmed this configuration with the KB article <a href="http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344" target="_blank">http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344</a>.
The problem is that this configuration is not working for me. The power lights come up on both cards, but the link lights do not. I have installed the lated version of the Platform Services software (2.3.2), I have powered up the chassis in the correct order, and the MXI card was ordered from NI and is inserted correctly. MAX recognizes the PXI-1062 chassis but not the 1056 chassis. I thought that the 1056 chassis may need to be configured as one of the 1062 chassis' PXI busses, but I doesn't look like the 8360 card installed on the 1062 chassis is being recognized by the OS. I guess that I could be due to us controlling the 1st
I have a PXIe-1062Q chassis being controlled by my NI-8353 1U controller via a PCIe-8372 to PXIe-8370 link (x4 PXI Express link). I would like to connect a PXI-1056 chassis and control both chassis with the 1U controller. I was told by my inside sales rep (who go the information from a tech) that this was possible by daisy-chaining the two chassis together using two PXI-8360 MXI Experss cards. The 1st card is placed in the last slot of the PXIe-1062Q and the 2nd card is placed in the controller slot of the PXI-1056. I have confirmed this configuration with the KB article <a href="http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344" target="_blank">http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344</a>.
The problem is that this configuration is not working for me. The power lights come up on both cards, but the link lights do not. I have installed the lated version of the Platform Services software (2.3.2), I have powered up the chassis in the correct order, and the MXI card was ordered from NI and is inserted correctly. MAX recognizes the PXI-1062 chassis but not the 1056 chassis. I thought that the 1056 chassis may need to be configured as one of the 1062 chassis' PXI busses, but I doesn't look like the 8360 card installed on the 1062 chassis is being recognized by the OS. I guess that I could be due to us controlling the 1st
ej
May 6, 2008, 7:10:10 PM5/6/08
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All,
I have a PXIe-1062Q chassis that I am controlling with the NI-8353 1U controller via a PXIe-PCIe 8372 link (x4 PCI Express). I would like to connect another chassis, my PXI-1056 chassis, to the PXIe-1062Q and control them both the the 1U controller. I was told by my inside sales rep (who got the information from a tech) that this can be done by using two PXI-8360 MXI Express cards. The first card goes into the last slot of the 1062 chassis, and the second card goes into the controller slot of the 1056 chassis. I have confirmed this configuration with the KB article <a href="http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344" target="_blank">http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344</a>.
The problem is that this configuration isn't working for me. Both PXI-8360 units power up in their respective chassis, but the link lights on each remain off. I am using the latest version of Platform Services (2.3.2), I am powering the chassis in the correct order, and I am using the cable I ordered from NI and making sure that it is inserted correctly. I have also swapped the cards to lessen the possibility that the problem is with one of the cards. I am able to see the PXIe-1062 chassis and its configuration, but I see nothing of the PXI-1056 chassis. I thought that the 1056 might be showing up as on of the busses of the 1062, but it doesn't look like the 8360 card is being recognized by the OS (the Windows XP device manager configuration looks the same whether the 8360 card is inserted or not). I wonder if the problem has to do with the front end PCIe to PXIe link not being compatable with the PXI-8360 card. I would really like to know if this configuration of mine is valid, and if so what am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Eric
I have a PXIe-1062Q chassis that I am controlling with the NI-8353 1U controller via a PXIe-PCIe 8372 link (x4 PCI Express). I would like to connect another chassis, my PXI-1056 chassis, to the PXIe-1062Q and control them both the the 1U controller. I was told by my inside sales rep (who got the information from a tech) that this can be done by using two PXI-8360 MXI Express cards. The first card goes into the last slot of the 1062 chassis, and the second card goes into the controller slot of the 1056 chassis. I have confirmed this configuration with the KB article <a href="http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344" target="_blank">http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/5FB4ECBD292BB551862573F500021344</a>.
The problem is that this configuration isn't working for me. Both PXI-8360 units power up in their respective chassis, but the link lights on each remain off. I am using the latest version of Platform Services (2.3.2), I am powering the chassis in the correct order, and I am using the cable I ordered from NI and making sure that it is inserted correctly. I have also swapped the cards to lessen the possibility that the problem is with one of the cards. I am able to see the PXIe-1062 chassis and its configuration, but I see nothing of the PXI-1056 chassis. I thought that the 1056 might be showing up as on of the busses of the 1062, but it doesn't look like the 8360 card is being recognized by the OS (the Windows XP device manager configuration looks the same whether the 8360 card is inserted or not). I wonder if the problem has to do with the front end PCIe to PXIe link not being compatable with the PXI-8360 card. I would really like to know if this configuration of mine is valid, and if so what am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Eric
Torba
May 7, 2008, 11:40:17 AM5/7/08
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Hello Eric,
Although much of the hardware appears to indicate that this will work, it turns out that daisy chaining of PXI Express chassis to PXI-1 chassis or vice versa using purely MXI Express is not available at this time. This is due to architectural differences between PXI Express and PXI-1 technology.
The x4 MXIe link from the NI-8353 to the PXIe-1062Q chassis with the PCIe-8372 is valid. Using the PXI-8360 in the PXI-1056 chassis is also valid being that it is PXI-1 compatible. However, daisy chaining the 1056 to the 1062Q with MXI Express is where the issue lies.
It turns out that the information given to you from the sales dept and the KB is incorrect. The sales dept has access to the same resources that you have available so it is quite possible that they saw the same KB, which led them to believe this. This is a mistake on our part, and I apologize for this inconvenience. I highly recommend that you contact your sales representative referencing this forum response.
Here are a couple suggested solutions if a second chassis is still needed for your application:
Instead of using two PXI-8360s and a x1 MXIe cable to daisy chain from the 1062Q to the 1056, use a MXI-4 solution instead:
<a href="http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13179" target="_blank">http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13179</a> - copper link
<a href="http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13180" target="_blank">http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13180</a> - fiber link
This will allow you to daisy chain the PXI-1 chassis to the PXIe chassis. Please note that the MXI-4 daisy-chain solution is valid if the PXIe chassis is connected to the host and the PXI-1 chassis is a slave to the PXIe chassis. The throughput is also going to be limited compared to x1 MXI Express link that you were attempting to make so I suggest to keep all high throughput cards in the 1062Q chassis if possible. This chassis does still have the x4 link to the host.
If you need more throughput, then perhaps switching the 8372 to a 8362 in the host might be another alternative. This would sacrifice the x4 link to the 1062, but you would still have a x1 link to each chassis in a star configuration.
There might be other alternatives not listed here that would still be feasible which is why I suggest for you to discuss this with your sales representative.
Once again I apologize for this inconvenience, and I am sure that the sales force will work with you on a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Mike Torba
PXI Platform Product Support Engineer
Although much of the hardware appears to indicate that this will work, it turns out that daisy chaining of PXI Express chassis to PXI-1 chassis or vice versa using purely MXI Express is not available at this time. This is due to architectural differences between PXI Express and PXI-1 technology.
The x4 MXIe link from the NI-8353 to the PXIe-1062Q chassis with the PCIe-8372 is valid. Using the PXI-8360 in the PXI-1056 chassis is also valid being that it is PXI-1 compatible. However, daisy chaining the 1056 to the 1062Q with MXI Express is where the issue lies.
It turns out that the information given to you from the sales dept and the KB is incorrect. The sales dept has access to the same resources that you have available so it is quite possible that they saw the same KB, which led them to believe this. This is a mistake on our part, and I apologize for this inconvenience. I highly recommend that you contact your sales representative referencing this forum response.
Here are a couple suggested solutions if a second chassis is still needed for your application:
Instead of using two PXI-8360s and a x1 MXIe cable to daisy chain from the 1062Q to the 1056, use a MXI-4 solution instead:
<a href="http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13179" target="_blank">http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13179</a> - copper link
<a href="http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13180" target="_blank">http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/13180</a> - fiber link
This will allow you to daisy chain the PXI-1 chassis to the PXIe chassis. Please note that the MXI-4 daisy-chain solution is valid if the PXIe chassis is connected to the host and the PXI-1 chassis is a slave to the PXIe chassis. The throughput is also going to be limited compared to x1 MXI Express link that you were attempting to make so I suggest to keep all high throughput cards in the 1062Q chassis if possible. This chassis does still have the x4 link to the host.
If you need more throughput, then perhaps switching the 8372 to a 8362 in the host might be another alternative. This would sacrifice the x4 link to the 1062, but you would still have a x1 link to each chassis in a star configuration.
There might be other alternatives not listed here that would still be feasible which is why I suggest for you to discuss this with your sales representative.
Once again I apologize for this inconvenience, and I am sure that the sales force will work with you on a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Mike Torba
PXI Platform Product Support Engineer
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