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DEFAMING DRAFTEES - REBUTTAL
(Smear Merchant Disclaimer: Please note this article (the same as all
of my past articles and exchanges with posters) represents an
editorial on contemporary issues and events - my opinion. Nothing in
this article represents in any manner any asseveration of biographical
fact, nor is about, directed toward or against any particular person -
other than those specifically mentioned herein. This article is being
posted for entertainment purposes only. If any person finds this post
personally annoying, abusive, defaming or otherwise disturbing, please
notify me of your specific reasons for annoyance via email at
legal...@comcast.net. If we find your detailed objections
reasonable (considering the “reasonable person” doctrine and case law)
we will then remove this post, or the offending passages contained
therein, from the Google archive, publicly apologize and retract. My
intent is to entertain, and to present articles to USENET readers
prior to publication to determine interest, and not to annoy, abuse,
humiliate, or in any way cause anyone emotional harm by posting on
USENET or elsewhere. Please note that defending myself from harassment
and obloquy with rebuttal posts has been deemed a “lawful and
legitimate” publication by my legal counsel. If I am not attacked,
libeled, defamed or harassed, or my copyrighted articles not
interrupted nor infringed upon, I clearly do not have a reason to
respond with a rebuttal. Please also note that I intend to notify any
and all ISP’s and web hosts of any annoying or calumnious post, web
site or other similar entity about me after I give the offender an
opportunity to retract, apologize and remove said post from the Google
archive).
SMEAR MERCHANT DISCLAIMER TWO: Considering the typical ridiculous,
absurd and obviously false claims about my military service that
originates from the crackpot smear and con gang that operates on
alt.war.Vietnam, I also hereby certify and attest this article is NOT
a secret coded message that only gang members can decode with their
secret Federal Agent/Sp4 draftee/former Junior Reserve Officer/ midget
decoder and mind reading rings.
This means the Brownie crackpots’ inevitable accusations and howls
that this article is really me claiming in a special soothsaying code
(a code only crackpots et al smear gang can only read of course which
involves their typical claim the American Heritage Dictionary’s
definitions of simple terms, such as “we” “estimated” “involved”
“retired from” and “not representing any biographical claim” are all
incorrect, and only their “special interpretations of the English
language can apply to all English terms I use, and of course the
gang’s standard nonsensical mind reading and soothsaying claims that
(1) I was a CIA cross border assassin that sniper killed Ho Chi Minh,
HOORAH - (2) that I personally killed 1803 enemy soldiers in Vietnam
and then feasted on their bodies (burp) (3) that I was a secret member
of the Mi Lai massacre, (let god sort them out) that I hunted down and
murdered unarmed Priests (take that choir boy) (4) that I was trained
by the Martian Army on Mars, and I have green blood, and retractable
fangs (slurp), (5) that the movie "Rambo" was copied after my deeds in
Vietnam and I still live in caves in the northwest (6) and best of
all, I went to the Carlise War College to study WWII tactics even
before I was born!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHHA.
Needless to say, the smear gang misrepresentations of my past posts
are of course, not true.
I have posted dozens of times on USENET that I will not post
autobiographical facts about my life on USENET in any detail. Only a
quip now and then. And, if anyone wants to know the true facts, or a
clarification of any quip, or more information and details about an
issue which are clearly missing in my quips they must first contact
me via email, identify themselves, and then I will determine if I want
to exchange such personal information with them.
Although the above is my standing offer, I should mention that NOT ONE
member of the gang has ever contacted me directly over any one of my
posts. It is clear the gang does not want to know about obvious
typos, errors, and occasional ambiguities, nor clarifications, nor
corrections, nor do they even want verification whether I was the
actual author of the post in question.
As experts on Investigations and the US Military have noted, the gang
leaders and their members clearly want to avoid the truth whenever it
contradicts their contrived and conspired defaming parsing and
fraudulent misrepresentations and distortions of what I have written
in the past, or contradicts their lies and fraud in respect to what is
and is not truly contained in my military records, and of course,
their fraudulent use of USENET posts they know others have written to
use to smear me, defame me, hold me up to public ridicule, stalk me,
and otherwise further their years’ long demonizing and vilification
campaign they have been regularly waging against me.
In short, the gang does not want to know the truth, and they are
desperate to stop me from defending myself as they know my truthful
rebuttals, which they cannot defend as they know what I am posting is
true, reveals them for what they really are.
The gangs lies and fraud border on the pathological, and include the
gang’ preposterous and goofy fraud that (7) a Purple Heart VA card is
the same as a Purple Heart Medal (I have posted on USENET dozens of
times I did not receive a Purple Heart Medal) (8) Nor that removing
hundreds of typos, errors, misstatements made by typists and I found
so far in about thirty-five THOUSAND extemporaneous posts under
accounts I used, and then replacing the errors with the true intended
context and meaning by the author is somehow “sinister” and the
original discarded post was the correct intended post and the
corrected version is false! (Giggle).
Such glaring preposterous crackpot et al smear and fraud gang claims
about me are, as usual, blatantly false and equally ridiculous. (Ask
the gang leaders for proof of their claims the next time they make
such ludicrous claims and watch them scurry for their rocks or produce
their own forgeries, or perhaps typos, errors and such that have long
been detected and discarded in my waste basket they have dug out of
that trash). And no, regardless of forgeries and discarded posts found
in my waste basket that were thrown there because of an error or
typist misstatement by one of our typist’s, I have posted about two
dozen times in the past that my time in South America was spent (other
than an assignment and short visit to Southern Command after I left
Vietnam) exclusively as a Civilian working for Montana Western Oil and
Gas or PCA, which evidence was scanned and posted years ago.)
Also, in response to the smear gang’s et al repeated and convenient
outright lie and fraud that I never said that others were using the
same accounts to post on USENET as I did until the smear gang leaders
started their fraud, con and smear campaign against me and thereby
forced me to post on this newsgroup to defend myself, please see the
following proof that of course the gang leaders et al have been caught
lying again:
http://tinyurl.com/7kfaqz
Experts on Smear Gangs reveal what the Nigel Brooks con and smear gang
is all about.
http://tinyurl.com/6d4aay
TYPISTS’ GALORE POST proves there were about 71 previous posts prior
to the gang’s glaring lie that I never mentioned others posting under
the same accounts I used until after the gang leaders started to use a
few typos, errors and post fragments written by many different people,
years apart, never written on any military forum, deceptively spliced
together with forged words added into or subtracted from the
hodgepodge of different context post fragments so as to fraudulently
alter their meaning or context.
End Disclaimer - Rebuttal Begins below:
> "Billzz" <1 billzz...@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:95de1$49a39807$9440b19b$20...@STARBAND.NET...
>
>> It's not worth talking about, but the only thing I can think is
>> that if the truth is not written then the self-serving liars of the
>> world take over. I do not know the man, and I wish him well, and
>> no harm to him, we all served after all, but do not take away from
>> those who actually did serve in combat, by saying that they didn't.
>
>Brooks whined:
> True words.
>
> If no-one counters the liars of this world then their lies become
> the truth.
Doug Says: More true words. I am glad that Nigel Brooks understands
why I rebut his serial lying, con man bull, outright fraud, false
accusations after false accusations. He should pay attention to the
sage words above - it is clear that others are finally starting to see
through Nigel Brooks outright fraud and lies about other Vets - and he
has been lying about me for years - as the URL's below clearly prove.
(See below for the US Government site and experts that Brooks has been
lying about my combat duties in Vietnam for years - hell Brooks is now
even lying about his own posts and the units HE SAID my records said I
was assigned to.)
http://tinyurl.com/awr2vc In this Post the outright fraud, serial
lying and con game Nigel Brooks has been posting about me not
experiencing combat in Vietnam is proved the con we all know it is -
Brooks caught yet again!
>
Brooks Conned the Readers Again With:
> For whatever reason, Mr. Reiman has chosen to vilify those draftees
> who served in Vietnam and has attacked the valor of two of his
> opponents who were awarded the Silver Star and received purple
> hearts in those actions - all because they chose to question his
> unbelievable stories. He has chosen to portray those of us who
> served our country in the military and later as civilians over there
> as "Village Rats".
Doug Says: What typical Nigel Brooks con man codswallop! Once again
we find Nigel Brooks caught in mid con. Brooks is clearly desperate
to vilify me and paint me in a false light as someone that defames
Veterans - which is a typical Nigel Brooks’ con he often uses to
demonize those members of the Veteran’s community that challenge his
fraud.
First, I did not vilify Draftees, I simply said they were not as good
of soldiers as regular Army volunteers - and we all know that is
absolutely true! I have yet to find a non-smear gang member Draftee
that would disagree with that very truthful statement!
If a Draftee wanted to perform as well as a Regular Army solider, he
would have *at least* enlisted in the US Army’‘s two-year enlistment
program and chosen a good US Army school. Those people that were
willing to spend their two years in the US Army as a “protester
draftee” when they could have spent the same two years (no more time
commitment in active nor reserve duty than a Draftee ) in the REGULAR
ARMY and thereby attend one of the many schools offered to the regular
army, were obviously sending the US Government a protest message.
Moreover, if we consider those dregs that slithered into the USA from
some UK slum, and then was asked to serve their new country, and then
refused to join the regular army’s two year program, well, they are at
the bottom of my list of so-called “patriots.”
Strange how these dregs can take advantage of the good ol USA - but
then refuse to even serve in its Regular Army. And Nigel Brooks wants
me to “respect” such misfits? BWHAHAHAHAHA. That would be
analogous to respecting some of the most cowardly and dishonest people
I ever had the misfortune to encounter in my life, a ARVN officer.
(Open a book titled “ARVN Officer Heroes” and a hand will jump out and
steal your wallet).
And I have never attacked the valor of anyone - ask Brooks for a
reference to back up his fraud and watch him scurry back to his
sewer. (I believe *everyone* that served in Vietnam demonstrated
“valor” and I have said so several times - in contrast Brooks and his
gang have called those without Infantry MOS’s “Rear Echelon Mother
Fuckers” and Brooks gang member Tom Rau claimed that Veterans that
suffered from Agent Orange diabetes were “fat slugs” that had
“manipulated” the VA for benefits - not to mention the Brooks gang’s
claim that their beloved Vietnamese NEVER held any of our POW’s back
after the Vietnam war - which the new book “An Enormous Lie” exposes
as a typical Brooks gang fraud.
I should also mention that a key member of the Nigel Brooks gang, the
anonymous cyberstalker that goes by the name of Stev...@ntlworld.com
(Who denies his real name is Steve Leyland) has consistently and
repeatedly defamed our troops fighting in Iraq, called them
“murderers” and has further defamed our war on terror in general. So
if anyone is saying anything negative about our Vets and our troops,
it is members of the Brooks gang, and as usual Nigel Brooks’ hypocrisy
is glaring. Yet Nigel Brooks said that his beloved gang member SteveL
never lies - so is Brooks a closet war protester that uses his gang
members to further that position? Who knows - but in respect to
defaming Vets, Brooks’ and his smear gang leads the pack.
Note that I have offered Nigel Brooks and his gang members to enter
into binding arbitration and lie detector tests. If the American
Association of Arbitrators determines Brooks is telling the truth
about me, I will pay for the Arbitration. But if the Arbitrators
determine that Brooks has been lying about me, then HE (or any one of
his gang members that will take this offer) pays for the Arbitration.
In addition, I offered lie detector tests. If the operator of those
tests (preferably an operator that performs such tests for the FBI)
says I am lying, then I pay for the tests. But if the operator says I
am telling the truth, Brooks and gang pays for the tests.
How could I be more fair than that? Yet Nigel Brooks, and his gang,
duck, run from, dodge, hide from, cower, ignore and whine away from
this offer every time. Why? You be the Judge - yet we all already
know the answer don’t we?
Here is my Arbitration officer that Brooks runs and hide's from:
http://tinyurl.com/a4tkgy Arbitration loser pays offer that scares
the hell out of Nigel Brooks.
Here are independent experts that have concluded Brooks has been
lying
about my military records for years:
http://tinyurl.com/bxrf2b US Government Web Site and independent
Experts on the US Military confirm Nigel Brooks lied about my
military service and my military records.
http://tinyurl.com/awr2vc In this Post the outright fraud, serial
lying and con game Nigel Brooks has been posting about me not
experiencing combat in Vietnam is proved the con we all know it is -
Brooks caught yet again!
Here is some outrageous lies Brooks has spun about his own military
service.
http://tinyurl.com/5o59lr Nigel Brooks lies about receiving medals he
never received, and serving in war campaigns long after he had already
left active duty.
Here is just a "short list" of Nigel Brooks outright forgeries about
me and my life and military service - you should see the long list
that is being prepared.
From: "Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com>
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.war.vietnam
Subject: Re: IS NIGEL CLAIMING TO BE GOD? (WAS Re: WILL NIGEL
APOLOGIZE? -- TODAY'S THE BIG DAY
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:43:32 -0600
Lines: 195
Message-ID: <3aegq0F...@individual.net>
>
> "Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:3ae72bF...@individual.net...
>> Nigel Says - Tell you what. Seeing as how you feel it is necessary to
>> ask an author exactly what he meant so as to avoid misunderstanding over
>> what he has written why don't you do the following:
>>
>> 1. Go over all of your previous posts to the various newsgroups where
>> you have written of your experiences in Vietnam.
>> 2. Take another look at the postings of yours which I have raised
>> questions about.
>> 3. In the event that you feel that your postings might have been
>> misinterpreted or misunderstood - first paste that posting and provide an
>> explanation underneath of those matters which you feel should be
>> corrected (for example - did you really witness two ambulances with VC in
>> them shoot up the planes at the Can Tho Army Air Field)
>
> Doug Says: There you go again Nigel, putting words in my mouth. You want
> me to explain *your version* of what I said, not *what I really said!"
> Amazing that you keep doing these incredible distortions in post after
> post! Moreover, I have already looked at all of your distortions so far
> and I can prove everyone was nothing more than a self-serving distortion
> that was factitiously interpreted by you so as to defame me. You never
> asked me to interpret anything I said before you libeled me! You
> distorted what I said, then demanded how I could do what you distorted!
> You simply re-posted out of context statements, fabricated some, (just like
> you fabricated the statement you attributed to me above) distorted others,
> then after you got through with your list of distortions and "self
> serving" interpretations, you then libeled me in the same post. As an
> example, please post where I said "I witnessed two ambulances with VC in
> them shoot up the planes at the Can Tho Army Air Field" those precise
> words please Nigel and in the context you stated them, or you have just
> been caught fabricating and attributing your own self-serving
> fabrications to me again.
>> Once I have received the records I have requested using the FOIA - I
>> will compare those records to your stories. I will take into account any
>> corrections to those original stories which you have posted on the
>> various usenet groups. And I will give you the opportunity to fully
>> explain the reason for any discrepancies or omissions in the official
>> government records as they relate to your stories. I will post the
>> original usenet postings, the official government records, and any
>> further usenet activity on your part which explains any discrepancies.
>> The reader will then have the whole ball of wax and will be able to make
>> their own judgment as to the veracity of any claims made concerning
>> Vietnam
>>
>> Now you can't ask for anything fairer than that can ya?
>
> Doug Says: You and I both know that IF you receive any records from the
> FOIA (I doubt if you will but we shall see) they will be incomplete and
> will not prove anything. That can be the only reason I can think of why
> you are refusing to exchange ALL of my records and refusing to agree to
> sign Form180's. I believe you are refusing to look at all of my records
> because you know if ALL of my records are revealed, and I explain your
> distortions and self-serving lies and libel, which I can easily do, you
> will be proved a liar in front of all your friends.
>>
>>
> Doug Says: You want fair? Exchange ALL military records with me and sign
> Form180. Also, stop challenging my Vietnam memories and reflections with
> your own goofy, inaccurate and self-serving distortions on out-of-context
> excerpts that you attribute to me and have taken from other newsgroups.
> The statements you attributed to me that you posted did not even come from
> this newsgroup Nigel, you took the time and *hunted* them down on other
> newsgroups for a reason. That reason had a purpose, and that purpose was
> clearly to find a way to defame and libel me. You clearly went out of your
> way to defame me, and that fact will be more than obvious to the court.
> Moreover, you have even taken your libel to yet another forum (a web site)
> and you are even bragging about including the US Government agency in your
> future libel! And you call that "fair?" Not to mention the fact that
> your distorted self-serving "interpretations" of what I really said was so
> far off the mark they were downright deceptive, underhanded and clearly
> meant to defame me.
> Also, Nigel, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but no one appointed
> you my judge and jury, and no one appointed you as the overseer of the
> memories of all Vietnam Veterans. And your Draftee type two years of
> military service working for supply or PX DOES NOT QUALIFY you to judge
> anyone's military service!
****************************************************************
Nigel says - I have appointed myself as judge - I will rely on the
readers
of the website to do the jury bit - I might even put up a poll -
something
like - "Hero or Bullshit Artist"
****************************************************************
> Your constant quotations of inaccurate and notoriously incorrect After
> Action Reports and newspaper accounts as a basis to denigrate and defame
> the recollections and memories of Vietnam Veterans is about the most
> egregious tactic I have ever seen one Veteran use on another.
Nigel says - I'm posting the official government records old chap.
>
> The way I see it, you have two obvious talents Nigel; you can search the
> web and you can distort, other than those two abilities, I cannot see
> anything else you possess that would make you an expert on the reflections
> and memories of any Vietnam Veteran's service. They are my memories
> Nigel, not yours! You cannot claim you know that my memory is a lie
> without libeling me. YOU CANNOT READ MINDS Nigel!
> I know you have claimed that somehow you can tell when someone is lying or
> remembering incorrectly, or correctly, but I assure you no one in their
> right mind, especially my lawyers, and the Judge is going to believe you
> have those supernatural powers. Memories are relative, notoriously
> inaccurate, and they are fleeting. No one remembers events the same way,
> no one remembers every detail. But when you say that because someone did
> not remember a certain detail, or stated something that was
> misinterpreted, or even misstated something in the heat of an argument, or
> misspoke, or even exaggerated, is therefore lying about his Vietnam
> service and therefore is "a disgrace to all Vietnam Veterans!" - You are
> doing nothing more than defaming and libeling all Vietnam Veterans that
> have ever repeated a memory or wrote about an event he participated in or
> heard about while he was in Vietnam.
> You have refused to apologize for your libel, and you just continue with
> some kind of self-appointed inquisition on my memories and reflections of
> my Vietnam service, that if not produced or stated to your personal
> satisfaction, you then threaten to continue to publicly libel and
> defame me. You have even set up a web site for the purpose of libeling
> and defaming me more than you have already! In my opinion that
> intimidation and threat to do your bidding or you will increase your libel
> against me represents extortion Nigel. You are using the threat of
> further libel and public defamation as extortion to force me to do your
> bidding and accept you as my judge and jury in respect to my memories
> and reflections of my service in Vietnam. You want the right to say that
> my memory is not a memory but is a lie instead. And if I do not give you
> that authority over me, you threaten me with more libel and defamation!
> Here is the American Heritage's Dictionary of "Extort" Nigel, just in
> case you claim you do not know what you are doing later in court:
>
> ex·tort (¹k-stôrt") tr.v. ex·tort·ed, ex·tort·ing, ex·torts. To obtain
> from another by coercion or intimidation. [Latin extorqu¶re, extort-, to
> wrench out, extort : ex-, ex- + torqu¶re, to twist; see terkw-
> below.] --ex·tort"er n. --ex·tor"tive adj.
>
>
Nigel Brooks
(Smear Merchant Disclaimer: Please note this article (the same as all
of my past articles and exchanges with posters) represents an
editorial on contemporary issues and events - my opinion. Nothing in
this article represents in any manner any asseveration of biographical
fact, nor is about, directed toward or against any particular person -
other than those specifically mentioned herein. This article is being
posted for entertainment purposes only. If any person finds this post
personally annoying, abusive, defaming or otherwise disturbing, please
notify me of your specific reasons for annoyance via email at
legal...@comcast.net. If we find your detailed objections
reasonable (considering the “reasonable person” doctrine and case law)
we will then remove this post, or the offending passages contained
therein, from the Google archive, publicly apologize and retract. My
intent is to entertain, and to present articles to USENET readers
prior to publication to determine interest, and not to annoy, abuse,
humiliate, or in any way cause anyone emotional harm by posting on
USENET or elsewhere. Please note that defending myself from harassment
and obloquy with rebuttal posts has been deemed a “lawful and
legitimate” publication by my legal counsel. If I am not attacked,
libeled, defamed or harassed, or my copyrighted articles not
interrupted nor infringed upon, I clearly do not have a reason to
respond with a rebuttal. Please also note that I intend to notify any
and all ISP’s and web hosts of any annoying or calumnious post, web
site or other similar entity about me after I give the offender an
opportunity to retract, apologize and remove said post from the Google
archive).
SMEAR MERCHANT DISCLAIMER TWO: Considering the typical ridiculous,
absurd and obviously false claims about my military service that
originates from the crackpot smear and con gang that operates on
alt.war.Vietnam, I also hereby certify and attest this article is NOT
a secret coded message that only gang members can decode with their
secret Federal Agent/Sp4 draftee/former Junior Reserve Officer/ midget
decoder and mind reading rings.
This means the Brownie crackpots’ inevitable accusations and howls
that this article is really me claiming in a special soothsaying code
(a code only crackpots et al smear gang can only read of course which
involves their typical claim the American Heritage Dictionary’s
definitions of simple terms, such as “we” “estimated” “involved”
“retired from” and “not representing any biographical claim” are all
incorrect, and only their “special interpretations of the English
language can apply to all English terms I use, and of course the
gang’s standard nonsensical mind reading and soothsaying claims that
(1) I was a CIA cross border assassin that sniper killed Ho Chi Minh,
HOORAH - (2) that I personally killed 1803 enemy soldiers in Vietnam
and then feasted on their bodies (burp) (3) that I was a secret member
of the Mi Lai massacre, (let god sort them out) that I hunted down and
murdered unarmed Priests (take that choir boy) (4) that I was trained
by the Martian Army on Mars, and I have green blood, and retractable
fangs (slurp), (5) that the movie "Rambo" was copied after my deeds in
Vietnam and I still live in caves in the northwest (6) and best of
all, I went to the Carlise War College to study WWII tactics even
before I was born!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHHA.
Needless to say, the smear gang misrepresentations of my past posts
are of course, not true.
I have posted dozens of times on USENET that I will not post
autobiographical facts about my life on USENET in any detail. Only a
quip now and then. And, if anyone wants to know the true facts, or a
clarification of any quip, or more information and details about an
issue which are clearly missing in my quips they must first contact
me via email, identify themselves, and then I will determine if I want
to exchange such personal information with them.
Although the above is my standing offer, I should mention that NOT ONE
member of the gang has ever contacted me directly over any one of my
posts. It is clear the gang does not want to know about obvious
typos, errors, and occasional ambiguities, nor clarifications, nor
corrections, nor do they even want verification whether I was the
actual author of the post in question.
As experts on Investigations and the US Military have noted, the gang
leaders and their members clearly want to avoid the truth whenever it
contradicts their contrived and conspired defaming parsing and
fraudulent misrepresentations and distortions of what I have written
in the past, or contradicts their lies and fraud in respect to what is
and is not truly contained in my military records, and of course,
their fraudulent use of USENET posts they know others have written to
use to smear me, defame me, hold me up to public ridicule, stalk me,
and otherwise further their years’ long demonizing and vilification
campaign they have been regularly waging against me.
In short, the gang does not want to know the truth, and they are
desperate to stop me from defending myself as they know my truthful
rebuttals, which they cannot defend as they know what I am posting is
true, reveals them for what they really are.
The gangs lies and fraud border on the pathological, and include the
gang’ preposterous and goofy fraud that (7) a Purple Heart VA card is
the same as a Purple Heart Medal (I have posted on USENET dozens of
times I did not receive a Purple Heart Medal) (8) Nor that removing
hundreds of typos, errors, misstatements made by typists and I found
so far in about thirty-five THOUSAND extemporaneous posts under
accounts I used, and then replacing the errors with the true intended
context and meaning by the author is somehow “sinister” and the
original discarded post was the correct intended post and the
corrected version is false! (Giggle).
Such glaring preposterous crackpot et al smear and fraud gang claims
about me are, as usual, blatantly false and equally ridiculous. (Ask
the gang leaders for proof of their claims the next time they make
such ludicrous claims and watch them scurry for their rocks or produce
their own forgeries, or perhaps typos, errors and such that have long
been detected and discarded in my waste basket they have dug out of
that trash). And no, regardless of forgeries and discarded posts found
in my waste basket that were thrown there because of an error or
typist misstatement by one of our typist’s, I have posted about two
dozen times in the past that my time in South America was spent (other
than an assignment and short visit to Southern Command after I left
Vietnam) exclusively as a Civilian working for Montana Western Oil and
Gas or PCA, which evidence was scanned and posted years ago.)
Also, in response to the smear gang’s et al repeated and convenient
outright lie and fraud that I never said that others were using the
same accounts to post on USENET as I did until the smear gang leaders
started their fraud, con and smear campaign against me and thereby
forced me to post on this newsgroup to defend myself, please see the
following proof that of course the gang leaders et al have been caught
lying again:
http://tinyurl.com/7kfaqz
Experts on Smear Gangs reveal what the Nigel Brooks con and smear gang
is all about.
http://tinyurl.com/6d4aay
TYPISTS’ GALORE POST proves there were about 71 previous posts prior
to the gang’s glaring lie that I never mentioned others posting under
the same accounts I used until after the gang leaders started to use a
few typos, errors and post fragments written by many different people,
years apart, never written on any military forum, deceptively spliced
together with forged words added into or subtracted from the
hodgepodge of different context post fragments so as to fraudulently
alter their meaning or context.
End Disclaimer - Rebuttal Begins below:
> "Billzz" <1 billzz...@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:95de1$49a39807$9440b19b$20...@STARBAND.NET...
>
>> It's not worth talking about, but the only thing I can think is
>> that if the truth is not written then the self-serving liars of the
>> world take over. I do not know the man, and I wish him well, and
>> no harm to him, we all served after all, but do not take away from
>> those who actually did serve in combat, by saying that they didn't.
>
>Brooks whined:
> True words.
>
> If no-one counters the liars of this world then their lies become
> the truth.
Doug Says: More true words. I am glad that Nigel Brooks understands
why I rebut his serial lying, con man bull, outright fraud, false
accusations after false accusations. He should pay attention to the
sage words above - it is clear that others are finally starting to see
through Nigel Brooks outright fraud and lies about other Vets - and he
has been lying about me for years - as the URL's below clearly prove.
(See below for the US Government site and experts that Brooks has been
lying about my combat duties in Vietnam for years - hell Brooks is now
even lying about his own posts and the units HE SAID my records said I
was assigned to.)
http://tinyurl.com/awr2vc In this Post the outright fraud, serial
lying and con game Nigel Brooks has been posting about me not
experiencing combat in Vietnam is proved the con we all know it is -
Brooks caught yet again!
>
Brooks Conned the Readers Again With:
> For whatever reason, Mr. Reiman has chosen to vilify those draftees
> who served in Vietnam and has attacked the valor of two of his
> opponents who were awarded the Silver Star and received purple
> hearts in those actions - all because they chose to question his
> unbelievable stories. He has chosen to portray those of us who
> served our country in the military and later as civilians over there
> as "Village Rats".
Doug Says: What typical Nigel Brooks con man codswallop! Once again
we find Nigel Brooks caught in mid con. Brooks is clearly desperate
to vilify me and paint me in a false light as someone that defames
Veterans - which is a typical Nigel Brooks’ con he often uses to
demonize those members of the Veteran’s community that challenge his
fraud.
First, I did not vilify Draftees, I simply said they were not as good
of soldiers as regular Army volunteers - and we all know that is
absolutely true! I have yet to find a non-smear gang member Draftee
that would disagree with that very truthful statement!
If a Draftee wanted to perform as well as a Regular Army solider, he
would have *at least* enlisted in the US Army’‘s two-year enlistment
program and chosen a good US Army school. Those people that were
willing to spend their two years in the US Army as a “protester
draftee” when they could have spent the same two years (no more time
commitment in active nor reserve duty than a Draftee ) in the REGULAR
ARMY and thereby attend one of the many schools offered to the regular
army, were obviously sending the US Government a protest message.
Moreover, if we consider those dregs that slithered into the USA from
some UK slum, and then was asked to serve their new country, and then
refused to join the regular army’s two year program, well, they are at
the bottom of my list of so-called “patriots.”
Strange how these dregs can take advantage of the good ol USA - but
then refuse to even serve in its Regular Army. And Nigel Brooks wants
me to “respect” such misfits? BWHAHAHAHAHA. That would be
analogous to respecting some of the most cowardly and dishonest people
I ever had the misfortune to encounter in my life, a ARVN officer.
(Open a book titled “ARVN Officer Heroes” and a hand will jump out and
steal your wallet).
And I have never attacked the valor of anyone - ask Brooks for a
reference to back up his fraud and watch him scurry back to his
sewer. (I believe *everyone* that served in Vietnam demonstrated
“valor” and I have said so several times - in contrast Brooks and his
gang have called those without Infantry MOS’s “Rear Echelon Mother
Fuckers” and Brooks gang member Tom Rau claimed that Veterans that
suffered from Agent Orange diabetes were “fat slugs” that had
“manipulated” the VA for benefits - not to mention the Brooks gang’s
claim that their beloved Vietnamese NEVER held any of our POW’s back
after the Vietnam war - which the new book “An Enormous Lie” exposes
as a typical Brooks gang fraud.
I should also mention that a key member of the Nigel Brooks gang, the
anonymous cyberstalker that goes by the name of Stev...@ntlworld.com
(Who denies his real name is Steve Leyland) has consistently and
repeatedly defamed our troops fighting in Iraq, called them
“murderers” and has further defamed our war on terror in general. So
if anyone is saying anything negative about our Vets and our troops,
it is members of the Brooks gang, and as usual Nigel Brooks’ hypocrisy
is glaring. Yet Nigel Brooks said that his beloved gang member SteveL
never lies - so is Brooks a closet war protester that uses his gang
members to further that position? Who knows - but in respect to
defaming Vets, Brooks’ and his smear gang leads the pack.
Note that I have offered Nigel Brooks and his gang members to enter
into binding arbitration and lie detector tests. If the American
Association of Arbitrators determines Brooks is telling the truth
about me, I will pay for the Arbitration. But if the Arbitrators
determine that Brooks has been lying about me, then HE (or any one of
his gang members that will take this offer) pays for the Arbitration.
In addition, I offered lie detector tests. If the operator of those
tests (preferably an operator that performs such tests for the FBI)
says I am lying, then I pay for the tests. But if the operator says I
am telling the truth, Brooks and gang pays for the tests.
How could I be more fair than that? Yet Nigel Brooks, and his gang,
duck, run from, dodge, hide from, cower, ignore and whine away from
this offer every time. Why? You be the Judge - yet we all already
know the answer don’t we?
Here is my Arbitration officer that Brooks runs and hide's from:
http://tinyurl.com/a4tkgy Arbitration loser pays offer that scares
the hell out of Nigel Brooks.
Here are independent experts that have concluded Brooks has been
lying
about my military records for years:
http://tinyurl.com/bxrf2b US Government Web Site and independent
Experts on the US Military confirm Nigel Brooks lied about my
military service and my military records.
http://tinyurl.com/awr2vc In this Post the outright fraud, serial
lying and con game Nigel Brooks has been posting about me not
experiencing combat in Vietnam is proved the con we all know it is -
Brooks caught yet again!
Here is some outrageous lies Brooks has spun about his own military
service.
http://tinyurl.com/5o59lr Nigel Brooks lies about receiving medals he
never received, and serving in war campaigns long after he had already
left active duty.
Here is just a "short list" of Nigel Brooks outright forgeries about
me and my life and military service - you should see the long list
that is being prepared.
From: "Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com>
Newsgroups: alt.news-media,alt.war.vietnam
Subject: Re: IS NIGEL CLAIMING TO BE GOD? (WAS Re: WILL NIGEL
APOLOGIZE? -- TODAY'S THE BIG DAY
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:43:32 -0600
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Message-ID: <3aegq0F...@individual.net>
>
> "Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:3ae72bF...@individual.net...
>> Nigel Says - Tell you what. Seeing as how you feel it is necessary to
>> ask an author exactly what he meant so as to avoid misunderstanding over
>> what he has written why don't you do the following:
>>
>> 1. Go over all of your previous posts to the various newsgroups where
>> you have written of your experiences in Vietnam.
>> 2. Take another look at the postings of yours which I have raised
>> questions about.
>> 3. In the event that you feel that your postings might have been
>> misinterpreted or misunderstood - first paste that posting and provide an
>> explanation underneath of those matters which you feel should be
>> corrected (for example - did you really witness two ambulances with VC in
>> them shoot up the planes at the Can Tho Army Air Field)
>
> Doug Says: There you go again Nigel, putting words in my mouth. You want
> me to explain *your version* of what I said, not *what I really said!"
> Amazing that you keep doing these incredible distortions in post after
> post! Moreover, I have already looked at all of your distortions so far
> and I can prove everyone was nothing more than a self-serving distortion
> that was factitiously interpreted by you so as to defame me. You never
> asked me to interpret anything I said before you libeled me! You
> distorted what I said, then demanded how I could do what you distorted!
> You simply re-posted out of context statements, fabricated some, (just like
> you fabricated the statement you attributed to me above) distorted others,
> then after you got through with your list of distortions and "self
> serving" interpretations, you then libeled me in the same post. As an
> example, please post where I said "I witnessed two ambulances with VC in
> them shoot up the planes at the Can Tho Army Air Field" those precise
> words please Nigel and in the context you stated them, or you have just
> been caught fabricating and attributing your own self-serving
> fabrications to me again.
>> Once I have received the records I have requested using the FOIA - I
>> will compare those records to your stories. I will take into account any
>> corrections to those original stories which you have posted on the
>> various usenet groups. And I will give you the opportunity to fully
>> explain the reason for any discrepancies or omissions in the official
>> government records as they relate to your stories. I will post the
>> original usenet postings, the official government records, and any
>> further usenet activity on your part which explains any discrepancies.
>> The reader will then have the whole ball of wax and will be able to make
>> their own judgment as to the veracity of any claims made concerning
>> Vietnam
>>
>> Now you can't ask for anything fairer than that can ya?
>
> Doug Says: You and I both know that IF you receive any records from the
> FOIA (I doubt if you will but we shall see) they will be incomplete and
> will not prove anything. That can be the only reason I can think of why
> you are refusing to exchange ALL of my records and refusing to agree to
> sign Form180's. I believe you are refusing to look at all of my records
> because you know if ALL of my records are revealed, and I explain your
> distortions and self-serving lies and libel, which I can easily do, you
> will be proved a liar in front of all your friends.
>>
>>
> Doug Says: You want fair? Exchange ALL military records with me and sign
> Form180. Also, stop challenging my Vietnam memories and reflections with
> your own goofy, inaccurate and self-serving distortions on out-of-context
> excerpts that you attribute to me and have taken from other newsgroups.
> The statements you attributed to me that you posted did not even come from
> this newsgroup Nigel, you took the time and *hunted* them down on other
> newsgroups for a reason. That reason had a purpose, and that purpose was
> clearly to find a way to defame and libel me. You clearly went out of your
> way to defame me, and that fact will be more than obvious to the court.
> Moreover, you have even taken your libel to yet another forum (a web site)
> and you are even bragging about including the US Government agency in your
> future libel! And you call that "fair?" Not to mention the fact that
> your distorted self-serving "interpretations" of what I really said was so
> far off the mark they were downright deceptive, underhanded and clearly
> meant to defame me.
> Also, Nigel, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but no one appointed
> you my judge and jury, and no one appointed you as the overseer of the
> memories of all Vietnam Veterans. And your Draftee type two years of
> military service working for supply or PX DOES NOT QUALIFY you to judge
> anyone's military service!
****************************************************************
Nigel says - I have appointed myself as judge - I will rely on the
readers
of the website to do the jury bit - I might even put up a poll -
something
like - "Hero or Bullshit Artist"
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> Your constant quotations of inaccurate and notoriously incorrect After
> Action Reports and newspaper accounts as a basis to denigrate and defame
> the recollections and memories of Vietnam Veterans is about the most
> egregious tactic I have ever seen one Veteran use on another.
Nigel says - I'm posting the official government records old chap.
>
> The way I see it, you have two obvious talents Nigel; you can search the
> web and you can distort, other than those two abilities, I cannot see
> anything else you possess that would make you an expert on the reflections
> and memories of any Vietnam Veteran's service. They are my memories
> Nigel, not yours! You cannot claim you know that my memory is a lie
> without libeling me. YOU CANNOT READ MINDS Nigel!
> I know you have claimed that somehow you can tell when someone is lying or
> remembering incorrectly, or correctly, but I assure you no one in their
> right mind, especially my lawyers, and the Judge is going to believe you
> have those supernatural powers. Memories are relative, notoriously
> inaccurate, and they are fleeting. No one remembers events the same way,
> no one remembers every detail. But when you say that because someone did
> not remember a certain detail, or stated something that was
> misinterpreted, or even misstated something in the heat of an argument, or
> misspoke, or even exaggerated, is therefore lying about his Vietnam
> service and therefore is "a disgrace to all Vietnam Veterans!" - You are
> doing nothing more than defaming and libeling all Vietnam Veterans that
> have ever repeated a memory or wrote about an event he participated in or
> heard about while he was in Vietnam.
> You have refused to apologize for your libel, and you just continue with
> some kind of self-appointed inquisition on my memories and reflections of
> my Vietnam service, that if not produced or stated to your personal
> satisfaction, you then threaten to continue to publicly libel and
> defame me. You have even set up a web site for the purpose of libeling
> and defaming me more than you have already! In my opinion that
> intimidation and threat to do your bidding or you will increase your libel
> against me represents extortion Nigel. You are using the threat of
> further libel and public defamation as extortion to force me to do your
> bidding and accept you as my judge and jury in respect to my memories
> and reflections of my service in Vietnam. You want the right to say that
> my memory is not a memory but is a lie instead. And if I do not give you
> that authority over me, you threaten me with more libel and defamation!
> Here is the American Heritage's Dictionary of "Extort" Nigel, just in
> case you claim you do not know what you are doing later in court:
>
> ex·tort (¹k-stôrt") tr.v. ex·tort·ed, ex·tort·ing, ex·torts. To obtain
> from another by coercion or intimidation. [Latin extorqu¶re, extort-, to
> wrench out, extort : ex-, ex- + torqu¶re, to twist; see terkw-
> below.] --ex·tort"er n. --ex·tor"tive adj.
>
>
Nigel Brooks
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