REBUTTAL TOM RAU FRAUD EVIDENCE - BRAVO
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REBUTTAL TOM RAU FRAUD EVIDENCE - BRAVO
"Dai Uy" <1. Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message news:Dai-Uy-778D6A.
0759552...@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
> In article <qpednXb-3vhPMqfV...@comcast.com>,
> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Doug Says: Mr. Rau, you are projecting on me what you do yourself. You
>> lie and lie and lie about other's service, and then you try to claim
>> your own forgeries and lies were something they had actually claimed or
>> said. But we both know your fraud and claims are blatantly false and
>> misleading. You apparently are suffering some kind of delusion as the
>> following post irrefutably proves: http://tinyurl.com/447mjw
>>
>> If you disagree with any of the points made in that above post, and you
>> have real evidence to contradict the above post (and not just your usual
>> fraud and lies about your forgeries of what other people said) then I
>> urge you to post your defense and evidence. Both sides will then be
>> presented to genuine experts on the law and the US Military for their
>> opinion on these issues. If you fail to post any evidence contradicting
>> the above post, then I will use your past posts as your evidence of your
>> obviously false and fraudulent claims and false and fraudulent
>> accusations contained in the above URL in detail.
>
> Okay.
>
> Should genuine experts on the law and the US Military have
> further questions, I can be contacted at the address
> <Dai...@Hawaii.rr.com> provided in the headers.
Doug Says: No Mr. Rau, they are not going to enter into a discussion
with you. This is not about discussions, it is above evidence. Post
your evidence here. If this is all you have I will submit it. Note my
rebuttals below:
Also, Mr. Rau, you were asked to provide evidence of your claims. You
present statements you attribute to me some from resurrected hacked
posts that were discarded and corrected. The person that has been
doing the malicious hacking and such is Slime SteveL, and ALL posts
that have been retrieved from my and Google’s waste basked are subject
to alteration and forgery by Mr. Slime SteveL. So in regards to those
resurrected posts dug out of Google’s waste basket, you need to
provide some evidence they were originally written by me or someone
else using my account in the context and manner you are providing.
1. If not, you are presenting absolute fraud that was generated
though malicious methods as a basis for your fraud and false
accusations. Do you realize how bad that makes you look to rational
people that are genuinely attempting to get to the truth about your
accusations? Compounding fraud to prove fraud is not a wise thing to
do if you want to convince real people you are not using false
accusations, fraud and forgeries to falsely defame, smear and accuse,
like I say you are doing.
2. You have not provided a shred of evidence supporting any claim
that the comments you attribute to me were posted with the intent to
provide autobiographical statements of fact about my past military
service. Considering my often repeated disclaimers that I will not
post such on USENET, you need to start posting some evidence in this
regard or admit the fact that I never said anything you claim in
this post or past posts in the context of it being a complete
autobiographical representation of any past deeds. A quip or sort
statement about something done without details is always incomplete
Mr. Rau, and if someone is going to provide autobiographical accounts
they do so with details, not quips. So we await your evidence in this
regard as well.
3. You need to post your evidence that I actually wrote the quip and
not someone that was using my account or a typist.
4. You need to state the quip you are attributing to me is true or
false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed you are
claiming the quip is false.
I have, so far seen none of the above absolutely necessary evidence
Mr. Rau. Remember, you are no long spewing your lies and fraud to
your fellow gang members. You are now dealing with genuine military
and legal experts that are reviewing your accusations about me.
Convincing them and not me nor your gang should be your objective.
Yet so far, all you are doing is proving that you lied by not
providing anything to support your claims as are outlined in items 1-4
above.
To Summarize what the Experts are asking for:
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Without these four points of evidence you are simply repeating your
ridiculous false and obviously false claims, of which you do not have
any evidence whatsoever to support - other than of course your often
repeated mind reading claims. And if you are claiming soothsaying
evidence, you will first need to pass a test proving you can read
minds. (So far you have failed all tests I have subjected you to in
that regard).
The experts are unbiased Mr. Rau, they will not lie for me nor for
you. And no one wants to paint you as a complete unethical fraud and
smear merchant that uses forgeries, fraud and false accusations to
defame, hold other veteran’s service in a false and defaming light,
and to lie and falsely accuse unless it is true.
So now is your time to shine Mr. Rau, get up that evidence, and start
Walking the Walk like you talk the talk. Or is it “Big Hat No Cattle”
time again Mr. Rau?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ftvzo
>
> "Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received
> mine in a real war,"
Doug Says: The context of that post has been proved as Purple Heart
Cards and that fact has already been verified by experts that reviewed
the entire issue. Moreover, you know that post was discarded as an
erred post and was resurrected from my waste basket by Slime SteveL
and the term Medals forged into the context of the post. So
referencing a forged post as evidence something is true is not what I
would consider very smart Mr. Rau, not unless you are trying to prove
to the experts you are a complete fraud and smear merchant.
Your claim the removed and discarded post was intentional, and the
corrected copy is false, is beyond any rational belief. Evidence
please.
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/2cqr7r
>
> "I have trained with Russians, and I have trained and
> fought
> with Brits, Australians and New Zealanders, Vietnamese, ROK> Marines, Turks, and the French Legionnaires. I have also drank
> with them on many a night."
Doug Says:
Please provide the following evidence in regards to the quip you have
posted above:
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/6fp4u8
>
> "I personally trained SAS troops"
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, if you are claiming that statement is untrue, then
please post your evidence.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
>
> "I have been in B-52 raids. I know first hand what they
> can do to
> the minds and wills of soldiers."
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, if you are claiming that statement is untrue, then
please post your evidence.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> "But no, I never wanted to be a priest or anything like
> that - I shot a few priests in Vietnam, if that amounts to
> anything?"
Doug Says: I cannot find that statement on the Google archive Mr.
Rau. It appears as if it is a Slime SteveL post and not mine.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Keep in mind some of the post fragments you are presenting are not
from the Google archive, it is from someone’s computer, and probably
is well -doctored. Moreover, the post you posted is about card
counting, not military issues and quips clearly are not any
autobiographical statement of military deeds or facts. Your context
is a fraud Mr. Rau.
Moreover, if your references are from private computer archives or
downloads, you realize those references are worthless as they can be
easily doctored. You need original Google archive references that
have not been resurrected by some Slime hacker.
Again your evidence the statement is false is non-existent.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/4h9svv
> "(I realize covertly eliminating opposition . . .
> especially religious or political leaders . . . is not
> supposed to happen . . . but I happen to know personally that
> it does. I spent too many tours in Vietnam not to know this
> fact. In fact, let me say without elaborating, that I
> *absolutely know* that we have done this in the past.)"
This issue was already addressed in the following URL Mr. Rau:
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
>
Doug Says: Almost everyone that served in Vietnam knew this went on.
If you are claiming I did not know about these operations, please post
your evidence to that conclusion. Simply posting what I might have
said is not evidence Mr. Rau, not unless you are agreeing with its
contents. You seem to be failing each request for evidence Mr. Rau.
Apparently this is a long-winded confirmation that you have been lying
and you have ZERO evidence to back up your lies, which is what this
post appears to confirm.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/3j7wrx
>
> "My angles came from a War College Mike. I studied
> tactics, actual communications and logistics and battlefield
> tactics of WWII."
Doug Says: This issue was answered in the following URL Mr. Rau.
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
Anyone can access the War College’s web site and study their
documents on communications, logistics and battlefield tactics of
WWII. It was impossible for me to attend that College during WWII as
I was not born yet. So if you are claiming that people cannot access
the war college’s web site and study the things I studied, you need to
post your evidence or admit the above statement is true.
Doug Says: This issue was rebutted and answered in the following URL
Mr. Rau.
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/3umyxw
> "I was in Cambodia during the Vietnam war and the only
> "Carpet Bombing" occurred on the Ho Chi Minh trail."
Doug Says: Your evidence the above statement is not true is missing.
If you have no evidence then I must assume you are posting it as a
true statement.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/3m7xg8
>
> "Their officers received their training at Infantry Hall
> or at Ft. Bragg where I did."
Doug Says: Your evidence the above statement is not true is missing.
If you have no evidence then I must assume you are posting it as a
true statement. You know of course I received training at Infantry
Hall. So you must be presenting this statement as a true statement.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/3s5vun
> "I went through three Butter Bars during my first tour in
> Vietnam (as a SFC) then I went to OCS and returned as a Butter
> Bar myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning
> ended up dead or wounded."
Doug Says: You have written this passage incorrectly. With the typo
corrected it reads as the following:
> "I went through three Butter Bars during my first tour in
> Vietnam then I went to OCS and returned as a Butter
> Bar (as an SFC) myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning > ended up dead or wounded."myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning
> ended up dead or wounded."
http://tinyurl.com/3kh5du Mr. Rau, you have been told this fact
several times before:
The Library of Congess which holds the copyright on this story proves
irrefutably the corrected copy was the intended copy. If you wish to
repeat typos months after you were told they were typos, and present
known errors as intentional statements of fact, you are proving
nothing other than you are dishonest Mr. Rau.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/yhgkhp
>
> "I spent 30 years in the Military. First the US Marine
> Corps, then the United States Army. My last command was a MI
> command."
Mr. Rau, you have been told several times the 30 years was a typo, and
this post was removed and the typo corrected. You are again posting a
Slime SteveL doctored and fraudulently resurrected post. Consider the
typo corrected, please provide the following:
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/43y8pf
>
> "Copyright 2001 - Rusty Martin Freely distributable
> throughout the internet so long as attribution is given."
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, you know this post is a forgery that is falsely
using the name of the FBI without its permission, which is a violation
of Federal Statutes. You also know this post was used by Slime SteveL
to blackmail me into not posting on alt.politics. Are you sure you
want to become a part of that extortion?
> "Indeed, we are satisfied that the appellants have
> mischaracterized the facts."
> "...the reshuffle is hardly secret as the dealer does it openly
> in the view of
> the players."--3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, Justice Greenberg
> [Well duh! Doug]
> >
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, the above statement about the preferential shuffle
was disproved by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission, which was
the final and correct authority Justice Greenberg said should provide
the final ruling on this issue, and by every expert and mathematician
that ever reviewed this ridiculous statement. The shuffle itself is
viewable, but the reason it is being done is the fraud and cheating.
Ergo, it is fraud, even the law professor I. Nelson Rose, who is
considered the foremost expert on casinos and the law says the
preferential shuffle based upon the knowledge of the values of the
remaining cards is fraud.
Of course if you have some evidence proving all those mathematicians,
law professors, and me wrong about this issue, please post it. If
not, then we will be forced to assume you agree with me on this issue.
>
> This one is a bonus just to illustrate what a contemptible
> cretin you are...
> http://tinyurl.com/3jx8yp
Mr. Rau, you are not stating whether you agree or disagree with the
above post, or why you are posting it, or what you are trying to
prove? Do you not have even a small understanding of truth, proof and
honesty?
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Conclusion: Mr. Rau, you have not complied in a single instance with
the above four very basic evidence requirements. You have, with your
own writing, proved irrefutably that you are a liar, fraud merchant
that regularly uses outright fraud, forgeries and serial lying as a
means to defame real Veterans. I find your actions not only
dishonorable, but also unethical and overt, and actionable. The
opinions of the experts that will be consulted on this issue are very
important to the lawyers that I have consulted on this issue in
respect to how they will process my case. I have offered you the
opportunity to rebut my rebuttal with real evidence, like I have done
in the following rebuttal to your fraud:
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw
Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false accusations.
You have failed each opportunity to post any evidence your claims and
accusations are true. I will now present my rebuttal and yours to the
experts for their review and opinion.
Doug Grant (Tm)
"Dai Uy" <1. Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message news:Dai-Uy-778D6A.
0759552...@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
> In article <qpednXb-3vhPMqfV...@comcast.com>,
> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Doug Says: Mr. Rau, you are projecting on me what you do yourself. You
>> lie and lie and lie about other's service, and then you try to claim
>> your own forgeries and lies were something they had actually claimed or
>> said. But we both know your fraud and claims are blatantly false and
>> misleading. You apparently are suffering some kind of delusion as the
>> following post irrefutably proves: http://tinyurl.com/447mjw
>>
>> If you disagree with any of the points made in that above post, and you
>> have real evidence to contradict the above post (and not just your usual
>> fraud and lies about your forgeries of what other people said) then I
>> urge you to post your defense and evidence. Both sides will then be
>> presented to genuine experts on the law and the US Military for their
>> opinion on these issues. If you fail to post any evidence contradicting
>> the above post, then I will use your past posts as your evidence of your
>> obviously false and fraudulent claims and false and fraudulent
>> accusations contained in the above URL in detail.
>
> Okay.
>
> Should genuine experts on the law and the US Military have
> further questions, I can be contacted at the address
> <Dai...@Hawaii.rr.com> provided in the headers.
Doug Says: No Mr. Rau, they are not going to enter into a discussion
with you. This is not about discussions, it is above evidence. Post
your evidence here. If this is all you have I will submit it. Note my
rebuttals below:
Also, Mr. Rau, you were asked to provide evidence of your claims. You
present statements you attribute to me some from resurrected hacked
posts that were discarded and corrected. The person that has been
doing the malicious hacking and such is Slime SteveL, and ALL posts
that have been retrieved from my and Google’s waste basked are subject
to alteration and forgery by Mr. Slime SteveL. So in regards to those
resurrected posts dug out of Google’s waste basket, you need to
provide some evidence they were originally written by me or someone
else using my account in the context and manner you are providing.
1. If not, you are presenting absolute fraud that was generated
though malicious methods as a basis for your fraud and false
accusations. Do you realize how bad that makes you look to rational
people that are genuinely attempting to get to the truth about your
accusations? Compounding fraud to prove fraud is not a wise thing to
do if you want to convince real people you are not using false
accusations, fraud and forgeries to falsely defame, smear and accuse,
like I say you are doing.
2. You have not provided a shred of evidence supporting any claim
that the comments you attribute to me were posted with the intent to
provide autobiographical statements of fact about my past military
service. Considering my often repeated disclaimers that I will not
post such on USENET, you need to start posting some evidence in this
regard or admit the fact that I never said anything you claim in
this post or past posts in the context of it being a complete
autobiographical representation of any past deeds. A quip or sort
statement about something done without details is always incomplete
Mr. Rau, and if someone is going to provide autobiographical accounts
they do so with details, not quips. So we await your evidence in this
regard as well.
3. You need to post your evidence that I actually wrote the quip and
not someone that was using my account or a typist.
4. You need to state the quip you are attributing to me is true or
false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed you are
claiming the quip is false.
I have, so far seen none of the above absolutely necessary evidence
Mr. Rau. Remember, you are no long spewing your lies and fraud to
your fellow gang members. You are now dealing with genuine military
and legal experts that are reviewing your accusations about me.
Convincing them and not me nor your gang should be your objective.
Yet so far, all you are doing is proving that you lied by not
providing anything to support your claims as are outlined in items 1-4
above.
To Summarize what the Experts are asking for:
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Without these four points of evidence you are simply repeating your
ridiculous false and obviously false claims, of which you do not have
any evidence whatsoever to support - other than of course your often
repeated mind reading claims. And if you are claiming soothsaying
evidence, you will first need to pass a test proving you can read
minds. (So far you have failed all tests I have subjected you to in
that regard).
The experts are unbiased Mr. Rau, they will not lie for me nor for
you. And no one wants to paint you as a complete unethical fraud and
smear merchant that uses forgeries, fraud and false accusations to
defame, hold other veteran’s service in a false and defaming light,
and to lie and falsely accuse unless it is true.
So now is your time to shine Mr. Rau, get up that evidence, and start
Walking the Walk like you talk the talk. Or is it “Big Hat No Cattle”
time again Mr. Rau?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ftvzo
>
> "Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received
> mine in a real war,"
Doug Says: The context of that post has been proved as Purple Heart
Cards and that fact has already been verified by experts that reviewed
the entire issue. Moreover, you know that post was discarded as an
erred post and was resurrected from my waste basket by Slime SteveL
and the term Medals forged into the context of the post. So
referencing a forged post as evidence something is true is not what I
would consider very smart Mr. Rau, not unless you are trying to prove
to the experts you are a complete fraud and smear merchant.
Your claim the removed and discarded post was intentional, and the
corrected copy is false, is beyond any rational belief. Evidence
please.
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/2cqr7r
>
> "I have trained with Russians, and I have trained and
> fought
> with Brits, Australians and New Zealanders, Vietnamese, ROK> Marines, Turks, and the French Legionnaires. I have also drank
> with them on many a night."
Doug Says:
Please provide the following evidence in regards to the quip you have
posted above:
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/6fp4u8
>
> "I personally trained SAS troops"
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, if you are claiming that statement is untrue, then
please post your evidence.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
>
> "I have been in B-52 raids. I know first hand what they
> can do to
> the minds and wills of soldiers."
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, if you are claiming that statement is untrue, then
please post your evidence.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> "But no, I never wanted to be a priest or anything like
> that - I shot a few priests in Vietnam, if that amounts to
> anything?"
Doug Says: I cannot find that statement on the Google archive Mr.
Rau. It appears as if it is a Slime SteveL post and not mine.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Keep in mind some of the post fragments you are presenting are not
from the Google archive, it is from someone’s computer, and probably
is well -doctored. Moreover, the post you posted is about card
counting, not military issues and quips clearly are not any
autobiographical statement of military deeds or facts. Your context
is a fraud Mr. Rau.
Moreover, if your references are from private computer archives or
downloads, you realize those references are worthless as they can be
easily doctored. You need original Google archive references that
have not been resurrected by some Slime hacker.
Again your evidence the statement is false is non-existent.
1. You must not are present absolute fraud and doctored posts that
were generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts
from a waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/4h9svv
> "(I realize covertly eliminating opposition . . .
> especially religious or political leaders . . . is not
> supposed to happen . . . but I happen to know personally that
> it does. I spent too many tours in Vietnam not to know this
> fact. In fact, let me say without elaborating, that I
> *absolutely know* that we have done this in the past.)"
This issue was already addressed in the following URL Mr. Rau:
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
>
Doug Says: Almost everyone that served in Vietnam knew this went on.
If you are claiming I did not know about these operations, please post
your evidence to that conclusion. Simply posting what I might have
said is not evidence Mr. Rau, not unless you are agreeing with its
contents. You seem to be failing each request for evidence Mr. Rau.
Apparently this is a long-winded confirmation that you have been lying
and you have ZERO evidence to back up your lies, which is what this
post appears to confirm.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/3j7wrx
>
> "My angles came from a War College Mike. I studied
> tactics, actual communications and logistics and battlefield
> tactics of WWII."
Doug Says: This issue was answered in the following URL Mr. Rau.
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
Anyone can access the War College’s web site and study their
documents on communications, logistics and battlefield tactics of
WWII. It was impossible for me to attend that College during WWII as
I was not born yet. So if you are claiming that people cannot access
the war college’s web site and study the things I studied, you need to
post your evidence or admit the above statement is true.
Doug Says: This issue was rebutted and answered in the following URL
Mr. Rau.
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false
accusations.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/3umyxw
> "I was in Cambodia during the Vietnam war and the only
> "Carpet Bombing" occurred on the Ho Chi Minh trail."
Doug Says: Your evidence the above statement is not true is missing.
If you have no evidence then I must assume you are posting it as a
true statement.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/3m7xg8
>
> "Their officers received their training at Infantry Hall
> or at Ft. Bragg where I did."
Doug Says: Your evidence the above statement is not true is missing.
If you have no evidence then I must assume you are posting it as a
true statement. You know of course I received training at Infantry
Hall. So you must be presenting this statement as a true statement.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
> http://tinyurl.com/3s5vun
> "I went through three Butter Bars during my first tour in
> Vietnam (as a SFC) then I went to OCS and returned as a Butter
> Bar myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning
> ended up dead or wounded."
Doug Says: You have written this passage incorrectly. With the typo
corrected it reads as the following:
> "I went through three Butter Bars during my first tour in
> Vietnam then I went to OCS and returned as a Butter
> Bar (as an SFC) myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning > ended up dead or wounded."myself. Half of my graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning
> ended up dead or wounded."
http://tinyurl.com/3kh5du Mr. Rau, you have been told this fact
several times before:
The Library of Congess which holds the copyright on this story proves
irrefutably the corrected copy was the intended copy. If you wish to
repeat typos months after you were told they were typos, and present
known errors as intentional statements of fact, you are proving
nothing other than you are dishonest Mr. Rau.
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
http://tinyurl.com/yhgkhp
>
> "I spent 30 years in the Military. First the US Marine
> Corps, then the United States Army. My last command was a MI
> command."
Mr. Rau, you have been told several times the 30 years was a typo, and
this post was removed and the typo corrected. You are again posting a
Slime SteveL doctored and fraudulently resurrected post. Consider the
typo corrected, please provide the following:
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/43y8pf
>
> "Copyright 2001 - Rusty Martin Freely distributable
> throughout the internet so long as attribution is given."
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, you know this post is a forgery that is falsely
using the name of the FBI without its permission, which is a violation
of Federal Statutes. You also know this post was used by Slime SteveL
to blackmail me into not posting on alt.politics. Are you sure you
want to become a part of that extortion?
> "Indeed, we are satisfied that the appellants have
> mischaracterized the facts."
> "...the reshuffle is hardly secret as the dealer does it openly
> in the view of
> the players."--3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, Justice Greenberg
> [Well duh! Doug]
> >
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, the above statement about the preferential shuffle
was disproved by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission, which was
the final and correct authority Justice Greenberg said should provide
the final ruling on this issue, and by every expert and mathematician
that ever reviewed this ridiculous statement. The shuffle itself is
viewable, but the reason it is being done is the fraud and cheating.
Ergo, it is fraud, even the law professor I. Nelson Rose, who is
considered the foremost expert on casinos and the law says the
preferential shuffle based upon the knowledge of the values of the
remaining cards is fraud.
Of course if you have some evidence proving all those mathematicians,
law professors, and me wrong about this issue, please post it. If
not, then we will be forced to assume you agree with me on this issue.
>
> This one is a bonus just to illustrate what a contemptible
> cretin you are...
> http://tinyurl.com/3jx8yp
Mr. Rau, you are not stating whether you agree or disagree with the
above post, or why you are posting it, or what you are trying to
prove? Do you not have even a small understanding of truth, proof and
honesty?
1. You must not present absolute fraud and doctored posts that were
generated though malicious methods such as resurrecting posts from a
waste basket as a basis for your fraud and false accusations.
2. You must provide your evidence the quip in question was a
complete, detailed and intentional autobiographical statement of fact
by me.
3. You must provide your evidence that I was the one that actually
wrote the quip and not one of the many others that were using the same
USENET account.
4. You need to state unambiguously the quip you are attributing to
me is true or false, and your evidence to prove it is false if indeed
you are claiming the quip to be false.
Conclusion: Mr. Rau, you have not complied in a single instance with
the above four very basic evidence requirements. You have, with your
own writing, proved irrefutably that you are a liar, fraud merchant
that regularly uses outright fraud, forgeries and serial lying as a
means to defame real Veterans. I find your actions not only
dishonorable, but also unethical and overt, and actionable. The
opinions of the experts that will be consulted on this issue are very
important to the lawyers that I have consulted on this issue in
respect to how they will process my case. I have offered you the
opportunity to rebut my rebuttal with real evidence, like I have done
in the following rebuttal to your fraud:
http://tinyurl.com/447mjw
Rebuttal to Tom Rau’s fraud and false accusations.
You have failed each opportunity to post any evidence your claims and
accusations are true. I will now present my rebuttal and yours to the
experts for their review and opinion.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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