Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin.

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Abraham Madu

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5/25/17, 9:40:23 AM: Tony Dallas: BOMBSHELL!!!!


Lagos is NOT Yoruba Land.


~ Oba Akiolu.





Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi. Also reading from factual Historical books.





Let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos.





Modern-day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the First Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast.





It was a major center of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of Modern-day Nigeria was seized in 1886, when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria was established in 1914 Lagos was declared its Capital due to the struggle of the Bini King.





Lagos experienced growth pro to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori's, Bini's, Yoruba's, migrants across the Nation and World at large, as no particular group of people can take the Glory alone.





Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five cowne creeks. Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Light house creeks.





The Awori's and Bini's are known to be the first settlers of the Eko Land. The Awori's are speakers of a distinct dialect close to that of the Yoruba Language with a rich Bini mixture. Traditionally, Awori's were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be the Bini's who followed their self exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of Benin Kingdom, whose Step-Mother was after his head.


The Exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa known to the Yoruba's as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made ruler of the Ife people due to his Powers and followers from the Great Benin-Kingdom.


Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the First King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His followers from his father's Kingdom in Benin are the today's Awori people who settled in Eko now called Lagos.





In the 1300, the King of Benin-Empire heard from one of his traders who was a settler in Eko on how the Bini's were treated by the Awori's who lived in their area. Upon hearing this the King of Benin commanded the assembling of a War expedition, lead by his Son Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori's and demanded and explanation.





On arriving Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than received. The Awori's asked the Bini Prince to stay and become their leader. Ado agreed on the condition that they surrender their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the people agreed.


Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko.





The Oba of Benin sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist his son Oba Ado in the running of Eko. From the crowing of Prince Ado as the First Oba of Lagos (then called Eko) Lagos served as a major center for Slave- trade from which the Awori's, the Oba of Benin and his son the Oba of Lagos and all the children/descendants  who took over as his successors for over four centuries supported the trade.





The Oba of Benin was head of the Benin-Empire which are present day Western, Southern and Eastern Modern- day Nigeria.


The King never obliged anyone to speak the Bini language as he believed everyone was entitled to their own choice of language.





The name Eko was given to it by the First King of Lagos Oba Ado, the young and vibrant Prince from Benin. Eko was the Land now known as Lagos Island, where the king Palace  was built. The palace is called IDUNGARAN meaning "palace built on pepper farm" Oba Ado and the Warriors from Benin together with the early Bini's settlers in Eko and the Awori people settled in the Southern part of Eko called "Isale Eko". "Isale literally means bottom ". Must have been used to indicate downtown (as in down town Lagos)





Until the coming in of the Benin's 1300AD , Lagos geographical boundary was Lagos mainland, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing post. No one was living there.





About 1450 AD some Yoruba's who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-State and Ekiti were allowed by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they came in very large numbers thereby surpassing the numbers of the Awori's and Bini's. (Hence Yorubas claim to own Eko due to their numbers).





Oba Ado fell in-love with a beautiful woman whose father was Awori and mother a daughter to one of the chief, they had two sons and also a daughter Erelu Kuti, who begat Ologun Kutere who later became King.





Oba Akintoye descendant of Prince Ado whose mother was the First Queen from Awori ascended the throne as Oba of Lagos in 1841, he attempted to ban Slave-trade with the help of the British, but the Local merchant, the Awori's, Bini's and a few Yoruba's who was already integrated and married to Awori's and Bini's strongly opposed the intended move, and disposed and exiled the King and installed Akintoye's brother Kosoko as Oba, at exile in Europe, Akintoye met with British Authorities who had earlier banned Slavery in 1807 the British decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne.





With the Success of the British intervention in 1851 Akintoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however the British influence over the Benin-Empire had become absolute, and then years later in 1861 Lagos was formally annexed as a British Colony.


This lead to the fight of the British and the Bini King, the leader of the Benin-Empire for years, which finally lead to the fall of the Empire and the capturing of Oba Ovonramwen.





Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin. Prior to this all the Kings of Lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Benin until the British settled in.





Until today the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Oba's in Lagos because the Bini's believe that wherever they or their offspring are they are senior. The Status of the Oba of Lagos is different from other Obas most of whom were given back their crowns and staff of office only within 40years ago.


Those who got their lands back was the original land owners they were mostly descendant of Prince Ado others children of the Olofin.





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Folks, 

This is not really a bombshell. It is a settled fact. As a kid, sitting with Alhaja, she narrated this same story to us every time. If you doubt me go and ask Koro and others in isale Eko. It is for this reason that Republic of Dahomey changed their name to Republic of Benin. Has anyone ever wondered why the people of Dahomey picked Benin instead of the nearest Yoruba settlements? As an authentic Yoruba man I know this history of Lagos. All others here who puff out their chests and ooze out contentious rhetoric are merely ignorant of this history. Lagos, as Akiolu whom I am not a fan of, said is not a Yoruba town. Lesotho is enclosed inside South Africa but it is not part of South Africa.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

Welcome back!  Do you know for a fact that Akiolu is defending himself as a usurper of the Lagos throne at an Ikeja high court as I write? You are NOT a Yoruba man, you are an imposter. I think it is very strange that everyone wants to claim Yoruba land. Just for the sake of it, when you referenced Lagos, does that include, Ikeja, Ikorodu, Ebute Metta and Badagry? Of course, is it possible you have Lagos Island exclusively in mind?  Even Akiolu has denied ever making such statement. It was a fake news circulated by some Igbo people who hate The Great Yoruba People of the Southwest. The Obi of Onisha now claims Igbo people own Ile-Ife.

Wharf, always remember this, the story of Yoruba is the real story of Nigeria. Yoruba is the straw that mix the drink in Nigeria. You should be happy that you are able to speak Yoruba language. Even Mazi Aduba of Abatete is proud of his proficiency in Yoruba Language.

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Ogbeni Dipo of Olomi:

Thank you for welcoming me back although I can argue that I never left. 

Yours below is a bellicose attitude directed at the truth. Look here my friend, the only certainty in life is the truth and no amount of revisionism can change that. 

Oba Akiolu was a usurper and one not qualified for the throne. I wrote that in this forum the day he stole the throne. Akiolu is a dishonest man and not qualified by stint of character for the throne that he occupies. That he is defending himself in court is no news to me.

The Awori are not Yoruba. The Awori who occupy Lagos into Benin Republic and parts of Ogun are not Yoruba and have never subscribed to the fantastical tale of a chain from the sky. That is clearly demonstrated in that piece below. 

By Akiolu was not dissembling. He spoke the truth as the truth that has passed down from time IMO river. If anything one could argue that you are obfuscating the fact so as to confuse the unwashed. 

By the way Ndigbo founded Ile-Ife. It is in every history book and of course you will also obfuscate too on that fact.


Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Truth always forces its ways into rational mind.
"Yours below is a bellicose attitude directed at the truth. Look here my friend, the only certainty in life is the truth and no amount of revisionism can change that. " by Ejo ni Mushin-Prince

Chukwu Okike Abịama nọnyere ụmụ Gị oooo!
Kpuchie Ụmụ Biafra dị ka Ọkụkọ kpuchiri ụmụ ya!
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Ebe ka unu si?
Biafra!
Biafra the land of Rising Sun!
All Hail Biafra!
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Ya gazie.
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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:
 
Ibikwala, Ibikwala ozo. You never left? You and the Titled one both know the reason for your absence. You claim to be a truth teller but in reality you are incapable of telling the truth in matters affecting Yoruba.
 
So, Ndigbo founded Ile-Ife and were driven out by Yoruba people from their land? I guess that is your argument. I believe you read that from the book written by Chuks Agwunobi of Ugba Junction.  Igbo people are lucky that Yoruba people do NOT have territorial ambition. Otherwise, they would have taken over onisa by now. Even Chief Namidi Azikiwe knew that onisa was founded by Yoruba people. He was more Yoruba than Igbo. Awori people consider themselves Yoruba people. They are bona fide Yoruba. Case closed.
 
Just remember that in your lifetime, Yoruba Language will be the Language spoken by all Igbo people. You are smart enough to have become proficient in the Language just like Mazi Aduba of Abatete.
I know you are an Igbo irredentist, but the Igbo language will be extinct by 2035.

The Oha 1
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Their malicious and vitriolic hatred of the Yoruba is always showing through in what, and how, they always choose to focus and carry on, about the Yoruba. 

Their focus is always on attacking the Yoruba with lies and hiding behind the Igbo to spew forth their feral hatred of the Yoruba. They hide, because they also want to make belief that a response to them is a response against the Igbo, since they are mostly Igbo. Thus, because people don't want to alienate the Igbo, they refrain from responding to their falsehoods and malice. They then turn around to claim that their falsehoods are true because they are not challenged, when in fact, they are just hate-filled lies. In time, people (especially those not born, or present during the events in question) begin to believe these anti-self falsehoods.

Their bible is hitler's "mein kamf" Their operational instruction against the Yoruba is, according to the lucifer (the primary rebel whose hatred of humans puts him against God and humans in post human creation) of the world, whose claims killed seventy five million people in five years: 

    "in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods." then: "For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."  — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X   http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt

To follow up on that, they have followed to the letter, the character of their lucifer: 

" ... never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." - OSS report, p.51

That was the principle, the practice, the strategy and the tactic of the nazis against the Jews during the second world war. Their narrative was essentially: 

" ... of an innocent, besieged Germany striking back at an "international Jewry", which it said started World War I. The propaganda repeated over and over the conspiracy that Jews were the real powers in Britain, Russia and the U.S. It went on to state that the Jews had begun a "war of extermination" against Germany, and so Germany had a duty and a right to "exterminate" and "annihilate" the Jews in self-defense ..."

Unfortunately for the biafra nazis' ir victims (the Igbo and the Yoruba), others, who see any threat in the Igbo and Yoruba (the best educated people as a group in most places on earth) coming together to address issues together as professionals, and make the land and people prosper, take advantage of this their hatred to keep the artificial divisions going and distract people from prosperity, with their illusion. The anti-human hateful, bestial and destructive biafra nazi thinks, as usual in his/her demented mind, that he is intelligent when he/she peddles  these lies and then slyly slinks into other things that are irrelevant or out of context at best, when challenged with authenticity.

The key issue is that for the past 40 years, people have been afraid to address their lies and falsehoods because they are essentially good people with some decency that will make them hesitate when they have to cross the line and appear "aggressive" towards these extremely corrosive haters who are using the Igbo and Yoruba to keep both down.

History indicates that unless they are addressed and picked out like the proverbial jigger (tunga penetrans) that they are, the victims will soon begin to lose limb and life.

It is thus in the interest of the Yoruba, the Igbo, their posterity and their prosperity, to call out these saboteurs of humanity and human progress, while ensuring that reality is what prevails always.

Failure to do so is an existential dereliction of duty to the self. 

Those who have ears ...

O.E.



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Retarded Igbos.
They are like termites!

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 Maxima:

I just read your view of Igbos; I found it interesting. I had just made comments on Igbos; I was going to leave my comments in my daily journal but since what you said hits home I decided to share my comments with you. We must all figure out a way to heal Igbos of what they have become: amoral, liars and anti-social persons; we must do it for their good and for the good of all people. Cheers, Ozodiobi

DELUDED IGBOS USE FALSE IDEAL STANDARDS TO JUDGE PEOPLE AND MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR THEM; THEY MUST BE STOPPED OR CHANGED AND MADE HEALTHY

 

Ozodi Osuji

 

     Deluded Igbos like Chukwuma Agwunobi deny their crummy real selves and identify with false, ideal selves and use those imaginary selves and their false standards to judge real people; as a result they make life miserable for people.

    They tell lies, big lies; it is as if they learned from Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels the art of the propaganda: tell big lies about a person hoping that people would believe the lie; people are likely to believe a big lie for it seems so outlandish that for it to be told it must be true. The deluded Chukwuma called me, a professor a beggar. His lie is so outrageous that he hopes that folks would believe it. His goal is to degrade me.

     Since I know what he is trying to accomplish I gave it to hm. As they say, as you do to others is done to you. I put on my clinical hat and showed him to be a mentally ill nincompoop (he has hypomania and obsessive-compulsive cum narcissistic personality disorders); he is unemployed and is a homeless urchin.

      These people are neurotics; they are like Nazi neurotics and are capable of great evil behavior, even killing people; therefore, they ought to be stopped; or if you have the time you can teach them what constitutes healthy behavior, but under no circumstances are their neurotic and or psychotic behaviors to be tolerated and approved; they are a miserable people who, as they say, misery loves company, spread misery all around them. Igbo land is the land of those who live in misery; in their jungle they make life unbearable for each other and those who can afford it run to other parts of Nigeria to avoid their people’s evil behaviors towards them.

     It is always Igbos who run to other parts of Nigeria to live there; other Nigerians do not come to live in their dreadful neck of the woods; they do not ask why this is the case and feel ashamed from it.

     One must not be sentimental in dealing with Igbos; one must understand that they are totally evil. Why? In the past, they hunted and captured their people and sold them into slavery; in the present each of them works only for his individual good and do not care for other people’s welfare;  while being  self-centered they talk jazz about their need for Biafra (their Biafra would be criminals haven).

      They live to desecrate people; they deliberately put people down; these are evil behaviors for they deliberately go out to make people feel bad about themselves. They are thoroughly egoistic and shameless criminals. In doing their criminal acts they lack conscience, and have no compassion for those they steal from or even kill. They are predatory animals without conscience and morality.

     Igbos are evil; at present they are paying a price for their past evil behaviors by been marginalized in Nigeria; in Nigeria they are not given political power.

       One must see Igbos as evil persons and not have anything to do with them or at best try to teach them good behaviors; which probably their Satan possessed minds would not allow them to listen to; they see talk of love as sentimental and only talk about how to steal from people or abuse people.

    Igbos are so unrealistic that they do not know how to pick their fights; they pick a fight with those who are equipped to defeat them; they pick verbal fights with Yorubas; Yorubas have the gift of the gab hence defeat Igbos in verbal dueling; they pick a fight with me, a words smith; moreover, I am constituted in such a manner that I must win every fight I enter; thus, I fought them by showing them for who they are, criminals and evil souls.

       For as long as history lasts folks will read what I wrote about these evil people (I wrote about them in four books).

 

Post Script:

 I found it necessary to generalize about Igbos; being crooks they will be the first to say that I am stereotyping them even though they stereotype Hausas when they call all of them unintelligent. I know that in every general rule there are exceptions; a few of Igbos are good persons but since the majority of them are hard hearted, amoral and anti-social persons it is necessary to talk about all of them as if they are all criminals. Hyperbole is a necessary literal device to make a point that there is no other way to make it. If you are a sentimental person then trust the average Igbo and he takes you to the cleaners. These people have a criminal culture. We must figure out a way to heal them of their criminal tendencies.

 

Ozodi Osuji

May 26, 2017

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Retarded Igbos.
They are like termites!

Afis
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On May 25, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Maxima1757 maxima1757 <maxim...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Their malicious and vitriolic hatred of the Yoruba is always showing through in what, and how, they always choose to focus and carry on, about the Yoruba. 

Their focus is always on attacking the Yoruba with lies and hiding behind the Igbo to spew forth their feral hatred of the Yoruba. They hide, because they also want to make belief that a response to them is a response against the Igbo, since they are mostly Igbo. Thus, because people don't want to alienate the Igbo, they refrain from responding to their falsehoods and malice. They then turn around to claim that their falsehoods are true because they are not challenged, when in fact, they are just hate-filled lies. In time, people (especially those not born, or present during the events in question) begin to believe these anti-self falsehoods.

Their bible is hitler's "mein kamf" Their operational instruction against the Yoruba is, according to the lucifer (the primary rebel whose hatred of humans puts him against God and humans in post human creation) of the world, whose claims killed seventy five million people in five years: 

    "in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods." then: "For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."  — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X   http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt

To follow up on that, they have followed to the letter, the character of their lucifer: 

" ... never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." - OSS report, p.51

That was the principle, the practice, the strategy and the tactic of the nazis against the Jews during the second world war. Their narrative was essentially: 

" ... of an innocent, besieged Germany striking back at an "international Jewry", which it said started World War I. The propaganda repeated over and over the conspiracy that Jews were the real powers in Britain, Russia and the U.S. It went on to state that the Jews had begun a "war of extermination" against Germany, and so Germany had a duty and a right to "exterminate" and "annihilate" the Jews in self-defense ..."

Unfortunately for the biafra nazis' ir victims (the Igbo and the Yoruba), others, who see any threat in the Igbo and Yoruba (the best educated people as a group in most places on earth) coming together to address issues together as professionals, and make the land and people prosper, take advantage of this their hatred to keep the artificial divisions going and distract people from prosperity, with their illusion. The anti-human hateful, bestial and destructive biafra nazi thinks, as usual in his/her demented mind, that he is intelligent when he/she peddles  these lies and then slyly slinks into other things that are irrelevant or out of context at best, when challenged with authenticity.

The key issue is that for the past 40 years, people have been afraid to address their lies and falsehoods because they are essentially good people with some decency that will make them hesitate when they have to cross the line and appear "aggressive" towards these extremely corrosive haters who are using the Igbo and Yoruba to keep both down.

History indicates that unless they are addressed and picked out like the proverbial jigger (tunga penetrans) that they are, the victims will soon begin to lose limb and life.

It is thus in the interest of the Yoruba, the Igbo, their posterity and their prosperity, to call out these saboteurs of humanity and human progress, while ensuring that reality is what prevails always.

Failure to do so is an existential dereliction of duty to the self. 

Those who have ears ...

O.E.



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Dr Osuji, you are right!
The Village Idiot, Ugo-na-bottle Harris Ikamidu, posted some Idiocy written by some foolish mind.
The foolish Mind mentioned one igbo just once, our Village Idiot came out so happy about it.

Wo ojare, na una sabi.


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Oba Akiolu disowns false claims on Lagos history.   The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwanu Akiolu today ina chat with a few journalists dismissed as "the ranting of idiots" a trending story that Lagos is not a Yorubaland. Speaking at the Jumat service held at the Lagos Central Mosque today, the Oba said those who wish to distort the history of and  Lagos the "undisputable Yoruba seal" are free to do so but that "facts are different from fiction." The Oba stated "I have nor issued any statement on the origin of Lagos. Its unfortunate that idiots and vagabounda have taken over the cyber space. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet." He said anybody whp says Lagos is not Yoruba land "must be an idiot".The Oba said it is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with "unstable minds" whom he said are out to distort  the "legendary Yoruba history of which Lagos ia proud of".  He said "let those people say anything they like. They can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that "history of Lagos and  her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze."


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Oba Akiolu disowns false claims on Lagos history.   The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwanu Akiolu today ina chat with a few journalists dismissed as "the ranting of idiots" a trending story that Lagos is not a Yorubaland. Speaking at the Jumat service held at the Lagos Central Mosque today, the Oba said those who wish to distort the history of and  Lagos the "undisputable Yoruba seal" are free to do so but that "facts are different from fiction." The Oba stated "I have nor issued any statement on the origin of Lagos. Its unfortunate that idiots and vagabounda have taken over the cyber space. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet." He said anybody whp says Lagos is not Yoruba land "must be an idiot".The Oba said it is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with "unstable minds" whom he said are out to distort  the "legendary Yoruba history of which Lagos ia proud of".  He said "let those people say anything they like. They can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that "history of Lagos and  her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze."

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Dear All:

The ongoing disinformation campaign aimed at denying the essence of Lagos
as a  territory founded largely by the Yoruba is  increasingly sounding like the Russian disinformation
campaign directed against Hillary Clinton which successfully` installed Donald Drumpf (aka Trump)
as the President of the USA.

Where would also these lies lead us?

Who is benefiting from this disinformation?

Bye,

Ola



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Wilson Iguade

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... sounding like the Russian disinformation campaign directed against Hillary Clinton which successfully` installed Donald Drumpf (aka Trump)

as the President of the USA.
Unquote [BOLDFACE is mine for emphasis]

Response:

As one who resides in the USA, as opposed to the author of the above quote who resides in a FOREIGN land outside the USA, I can TELL you categorically, and with any hesitation THAT there is no evidence WHATSOEVER that the so called "Russian disinformation campaign" in any shape or manner "... successfully` installed Donald Drumpf (aka Trump)

as the President of the USA."

Those who don't know USA politics should stay away from it and focus on politics in their domain. 

Stay tuned ... 

Iguade


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This discussion is going on simply because our university professors are lazy. If we have devoted history professors, this debate would be going on in peer reviewed history papers where name calling would not be part of the discussions. A city like Lagos (as opposed to say Achi town) which has long contacts with Europe, should by now have had reasonably established historical records establishing its origins. But here we are in 2017 going with he-said & she-said.

What had the professors of history in Ibadan, Lagos, Nsukka, Ife, ABU, etc.  doing all these years?

Aduba 

Tajudeen

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Baduba et al,

There is no gap in the history of Lagos, in the large, on which any professor of history needs to expend any scholarship. However, there are yahooligans who would cough up any argument aimed at detaching Lagos from its Yoruba roots, stem, and branches. Among them you will even find a Yoruba wannabe like Wharfsnake --- a veritable prince 😀among Mushin snakes. He even goes further to try to deny the Yoruba identity of the Awori and that is New "news" for all the Awori of my acquaintance. He needs to find out how the Awori name came about.

The reality on the ground on these fora is that yahooligans are still bent on fighting yesterday's war and they see the Yoruba as easy pick. Oh dear! When will they ever learn? My hope (and prayer) is that they limit their antics toward the Yoruba to the barking, and not go on to bite. The determination and resource which the Yoruba had to summon after August 9, 1967 are still there, in even greater measure, to meet new challenges. Abo oro l'a a so f'omoluwabi, t'o ba de 'nu e, a d'ototo. Translating that into English is a good assignment for Wharfsnake.

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TJ,

I want to thank you for the attachment. It is clear as hell who owns Lagos. That attachment clearly states the ownership and ridership of Lagos. By the way Lesotho is encircled within South Africa but they are not South Africans. The influx of the people now collectively known as the Yoruba was a recent event. There was no one known as a Yoruba before 1935 when Mr. Awolowo, as he was known then, invented the word. 

By the way the word Oba is a Bini word too. Before the gathering of Western Chiefs in 1937, no Yoruba ruler was addressed as Oba. It was at that occasion when the Yoruba leaders saw the pomp and pageantry surrounding the Oba of Benin that they all borrows the word and pretended it to their names.


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Edited with a very brief history on the Obas of Lagos, PDF, included. 

Don't knock our professors of history because there are many books out there for anyone who is sincerely interested in the history of Lagos to read. Knock those who are mischievously making an attempt to re-write history via lies and innuendoes.

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TJ,

I want to thank you for the attachment. It is clear as hell who owns Lagos. That attachment clearly states the ownership and ridership of Lagos. By the way Lesotho is encircled within South Africa but they are not South Africans. The influx of the people now collectively known as the Yoruba was a recent event. There was no one known as a Yoruba before 1935 when Mr. Awolowo, as he was known then, invented the word. 

By the way the word Oba is a Bini word too. Before the gathering of Western Chiefs in 1937, no Yoruba ruler was addressed as Oba. It was at that occasion when the Yoruba leaders saw the pomp and pageantry surrounding the Oba of Benin that they all borrows the word and pretended it to their names.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Edited with a very brief history on the Obas of Lagos, PDF, included. 

Don't knock our professors of history because there are many books out there for anyone who is sincerely interested in the history of Lagos to read. Knock those who are mischievously making an attempt to re-write history via lies and innuendoes.

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Aduba 


Oba Akiolu disowns false claims on Lagos history.   The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwanu Akiolu today ina chat with a few journalists dismissed as "the ranting of idiots" a trending story that Lagos is not a Yorubaland. Speaking at the Jumat service held at the Lagos Central Mosque today, the Oba said those who wish to distort the history of and  Lagos the "undisputable Yoruba seal" are free to do so but that "facts are different from fiction." The Oba stated "I have nor issued any statement on the origin of Lagos. Its unfortunate that idiots and vagabounda have taken over the cyber space. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet." He said anybody whp says Lagos is not Yoruba land "must be an idiot".The Oba said it is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with "unstable minds" whom he said are out to distort  the "legendary Yoruba hi story of which Lagos ia proud of".  He said "let those people say anything they like. They can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that "history of Lagos and  her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze."

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TJ,

I implore you to eschew fake news. Get with the problem and face the facts and the facts are unassailable.


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Wharf The Snake of Orlu;

It is now patently clear to me why you are a Trump supporter, you are both adherents of fake news. You have been spreading this your 'alternative facts' about the Great Yoruba people since your appearance in cyberspace. But remember that alternate facts are nothing but falsehoods. Stop
Spreading lies.

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Prof. Adeboye:

Oma t'ojo meta o! How have you been doing sir? Ehn, may I remind you sir that the history narrated was from the Oba of Lagos and not from me. I am merely confirming the essence of that story. As a Yoruba man myself I am not woven in the wool of irredentism and appropriation. I call it as I see it and that history narrated by Akiolu is a fact. To buttress and support that history please pay attention to the genealogy of Lagos royalty as posted by Tajudeen. Do you agree with that genealogical presentation?


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Prof.Adeboye:

I call it as I see it and that history narrated by Akiolu is a fact. To buttress and support that history please pay attention to the genealogy of Lagos royalty as posted by Tajudeen. Do you agree with that genealogical presentation?


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Mr. Adeboye,
You mentioned:
August 9, 1967
Please remind me of what happened on this date. Sorry my memory or knowledge fails me.

You other comments are noted.

Aduba

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Mr. Tajudeen,
Thanks for the attachment. I have breezed through it but will come back to read it in more detail. Could you please supply me the link to the original so that I could read it in context? This is useful.

Aduba


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Edited with a very brief history on the Obas of Lagos, PDF, included. 

Don't knock our professors of history because there are many books out there for anyone who is sincerely interested in the history of Lagos to read. Knock those who are mischievously making an attempt to re-write history via lies and innuendoes.



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It is nice to see you arguing about some in authentic, incorrect, and lack of substance that is the correct way of expressing things of the past. Why would n';t you guys worry about how you can pay your bills instead of some oral, unwritten, unauthentic and obsolete stories told out of drunkenness. You are gonna have the same thing said about me 100 years from now. How I used to kill grown lion with a full jet of my urine and things like that. Believe what you can only verify and nothing less.  To hell with those people stories. They are full of fried ice cream

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The facts are if ever push come to shove - awon omo ati oun rinwa would return to where they came from - either by ero or tulasi. In the meantime - all the noise from those who want to rewrite Lagos history via lies and innuendos - are just that, noise. 

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I implore you to eschew fake news. Get with the problem and face the facts and the facts are unassailable.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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You believe what you want. I know what the facts are. 
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TJ,

I want to thank you for the attachment. It is clear as hell who owns Lagos. That attachment clearly states the ownership and ridership of Lagos. By the way Lesotho is encircled within South Africa but they are not South Africans. The influx of the people now collectively known as the Yoruba was a recent event. There was no one known as a Yoruba before 1935 when Mr. Awolowo, as he was known then, invented the word. 

By the way the word Oba is a Bini word too. Before the gathering of Western Chiefs in 1937, no Yoruba ruler was addressed as Oba. It was at that occasion when the Yoruba leaders saw the pomp and pageantry surrounding the Oba of Benin that they all borrows the word and pretended it to their names.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Edited with a very brief history on the Obas of Lagos, PDF, included. 

Don't knock our professors of history because there are many books out there for anyone who is sincerely interested in the history of Lagos to read. Knock those who are mischievously making an attempt to re-write history via lies and innuendoes.

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Awon alai ni nkonse. Trolling as usual. 

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It's something put together by a   Prince olusi adepeju. Further Reading and researching on the discussion, on the same issue in 2009, with the same guy by the name of wharf snake, I now realize I might have unintentionally spread fake news being pushed by likes of the one calling himself a snake. I apologize to everyone for doing that - see below a response on the same topic in 2009 by Dr. Ojo (may his soul Rest In Peace) 

I now realize that it is the same bad intentioned people that are it again. 

Anyways, like I wrote earlier - whenever push come to shove - the awon ati oun rinwa people would be sent back to where they came from - by ero or tulasi. 

Thanks,
Tajudeen Raji 

Dr. Valentine Ojo
Aug 26, 2009

"All those of you our Yoruba compatriots pissing and shitting in your pants trying to debunk the origin and historical account of Eko/Lagos as given by HRH, Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Oba Erediauwa, read the piece below earlier today, brought forward by none other than, Wharf Snake aka Oke Agwo. An account written by PRINCE OLUSI ADEPEJU,a Yoruba, a member of the Ruling House, I believe."

So after coming up with some spurious authorities on Yoruba history [Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Oba Erediauwa, Wharf Snake aka Oke Agwo, PRINCE OLUSI ADEPEJU, a Yoruba, a member of the Ruling Hous, a die-hard Yoruba, Adebayo Adejuwon concurring with Prince Olusi Adepeju’s account], we are now to rely on your "I believe"?

Anyone who agrees with you is to be believed. Anyone who disagrees with you cannot be believed?

That makes sense!

I did not realize that "PRINCE OLUSI ADEPEJU, a Yoruba, a member of the Ruling House" - which "Ruling House?" is a recognized professor, researcher and authority on "Yoruba History".

Thanks for the info!

Dr. Valentine Ojo

Tall Timbers, MD



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LISTEN TAJUDEEN, You need to go back to school before you start talking about who own EKO/LAGOS and Origin of the NGBATI people. Dont come out here to write 1-2 articles you crammed and disappears on us with bogus EXCUSES that Igbos don turn the DEBATE ABUSE and tribal. OBA AKITOYE, OBA OTULUGBEKE NO WASH.

Chukwuma Agwunobi love History and I take it very serious. Don't come here o waste my time. Or I go purse you even when you are eating AMALA. Now moving on

Professor/Dokiter Ngbati Tajudeen:

Why are you calling Wharfsnake on this? And why are you trying to link Igbos to the published article on who owns Lagos?

Are you just hearing of this argument now? If so, then you are a small boy. The Edos and the Ngbati people having been arguing on who owns Lagos before I was even born. The Ngbati people always have border skirmish with the BINIS over SOBE.

Where were you when late Oba of BENIN, Oba Eriadiawa took late Professor Thomas Adeajayi to School on origin of the Ngbati people? The late Oba made the late Professor to know that the Ngbati people migrated from BINI to present day SW.

I say where were you when the EDOS trashed the Ngbati people over EDO IS/NOT Yoruba? Some of you Ngbati people are so wicked. Everybody read how you the Ngbati people keep egging on Nama Emeka Nwa Okala that IKWERRE is not Igbo. Aluko, Ayo, Afis, Oga Adeboye and others have been egging him on that Ikwerre is not Igbo and Igbos are not the owner of PH.

Do you see how the shoe fits when it is on the other foot? Can we say that the Ngbati people are land grabbers to take BINI land and city of EKO? The same Ngbati people caused the Hausa/Fulani and Middle Belt fight over Jos and Zaki Biam. You told the Middle Beltans that Hausa/Fulani is taking their lands and town.The same nonsense the Ngbati people did at Riverine areas of Delta State that left the Ijaws, Urohobos, Ukwuanis and Itsekiris in land war.

Why are you pointing your bloody curved fingers on Wharfsnake? Do you think AGWO is a push over guy? He was born and raised in Lagos. You can't bullshit him about the Yoruba. He is one of the closest Igbo guy to me here. Why are you point your finger at him?

The same Dr. Ojo you are mentioning now, was the same man you yanked off NAIJAPOLITICS as all mighty Murderator because you said that his mails are too caustic. You are one of the ruthless and brutal Dictator as a Murderator. You kicked out all the Igbos in NAIJAPOLITICS on the instance of ALUKO and Igbo haters.

The same late Val Ojo told us that ODUDUWAYO is not the founder of the Yorubas. He told us that the Yorubas have been in existence before ODUDUWAYO came from ARAB.

Why are you referring to his write up? You are one of the young sneaky, coxcombs that was insulting him when he was alive. You wicked Yorubas are full of hates and only uses your degrees to cover your tribalist faces.  

Some of Yorubas are bunch of anarchist and wicked people. What make Lagos a Yoruba town, but PH is not Igbo town? The writer of the article gave details why Lagos is BINI peoples land and town. Why didn't Nama Nwa Okala do the same and give us the same thing on why and how is IKWERRE not IGBO and why and how PH is not Igbo town?

In Mid-West, the Itsekiris have problem with other tribes like the Ijaws, Urohobos, Ukwuanis and Isokos because Yorubas took their land and merge it with Ondo States.

The problem we have in Nigeria today is due to greediness, enviousness, chop myself, I sabi too much and tribalism of the Yorubas.You want to corner everything Nigeria as yours because it was cited in your place.
 
I was boilng with anger reading all these Maga Maga Yorubas crawling out from their Rat holes to write about EKO is or not BINI town. The same people who shamelessly encouraged Nama Nwa Okala to abuse Igbos and call on BUHARI to use Military Action aka Shooting Igbos for protesting.

Yorubas have been causing confusion since Awo time. It was Awo who used JS Tarka to cause confusion in the North. He went to the East to use Adaka Boro. And that was why Sarduana and Zik caught off Mid-West from Western Region when the opportunity presented itself.

Listen Tajudeen, Oga Ola, Oga Adeboye, Ayo and the Igbo haters out there, you all can write all the Harvard Theory you know about EKO, the point remains that if the Yorubas go around causing confusion and pointing fingers on the Igbos as your whipping boy, you guys will get your feelings hurts.

Many Nigerians regard Yorubas as arrogant people, greedy, backstabbers, envious people, tribalist and full of themselves.

Awo stated in 1962, that Nigeria will not know peace and will ever have peace again.

And for peace to be in Nigeria, Nigeria must be restructured. Or Igbos will want their own Nation. And let's see what will be left of Nigeria.

And with this, I rest my case.

Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi
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OGA ADEBOYE: BINIS THAT I KNOW SO MUCH WILL NEVER, NEVER TAKE ANY HISTORY OF LAGOS FROM THE YORUBAS. THEY WILL NEVER, NEVER DO THAT. SO GET OUT OF YOUR HIGH HOUSE AND STOP LECTURING US. NGBATI PEOPLE ARE THIEVES & LAND GRABBERS. 

Oga Adeboye:

First of all, I am one of the Yahooliganist and I am proud of that to checkmate the Ngbati, Ngbati Yahooliganist too. I am very proud of it and will wear it as a Badge of Honor it I die.

Please get off this your emotional cacoon and face the raw facts. Why are you jumping out now to talk? You are among the Yorubas telling us that PH is not Igbo town, Igbos are land grabbers and the Ikwerres are not Igbos.

You and your non Yahooligans didn't tell us why Badagry, Kabba, Ilorin, Offa, Ikenne people and their towns are Yorubas but Ikwerre and PH is not Igbos.

Should we call the Yorubas, land grabbers, greedy, tribalist and confusionist for taking BINI peoples land of EKO too? ALUKO, the born devil and wicked tribalist stated here that Igbos are land grabbers to want to take PH form the Ikwerres. Is he one of the Yahooliganist too?

Igbos are not re-fighting the war but we will not let you and the tribalist Yorubas write without responding to it. And we will not let you or anybody set the agenda on what will be discussed on the Internet.

Talking about war, there will be no war again because Yorubas and Northerners who fought the last war knew that Igbos will not fight is as a tribe under Nigeria but as a Nation with their own arms. And rest assured that Yorubas will not be bombing University of Nigeria, Nsukka, Ochanja, Ariaria, Eziachi and Ogbete market without Igbo war planes destroying UNILAG, UNIFE, UI, YABATECH, Adeyemi, Oshodi, Iddo, Shomolu, Oja Oba and Dugbe Markets. 

Don't come here and intimidate Igbos with war your wicked people started because Igbos will not put that shit with the Yorubas again. You are old and young enough but chickened out and stayed by the side to praise poor peoples children to fight and die for you.

Yorubas go around Nigerians causing confusion and you are now crying. The BINIS always say it that the Yorubas came from BINI and Lagos as EKO is their place. So why are you pointing your finger on Igbos?

You just think that the BINIS and other Nigerians love the Yorubas so much because everybody are in Lagos to share the Nigeria wealth starched there and you think it was due to the kindness of the Yorubas.

Yes, what you said in Yorubas is true about Nigeria. And you achieved that during the war in the absence of Igbos. So Wharfsnake don't need to do anything about it.

And with this, I rest my case.
 
Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi
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Thanks,
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"The Awori are not Yoruba. The Awori who occupy Lagos into Benin Republic and parts of Ogun are not Yoruba and have never subscribed to the fantastical tale of a chain from the sky. That is clearly demonstrated in that piece below."......Wharfsnake.


Afis comment:  Hehehehehehehehe!
You see how you crack man up?
Welcome back, Baba Wharfy.

To argue with a foreigner about your ancestral home is not only an insult, but bothers on insanity.

Wharfsnake, tell igbos to go to Ile Ife and claim their throne.
It's a good thing we have igbos making these claims, those Yoruba people still slumbering are now in TajiSoji Mode.
Shikena 

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Ogbeni Dipo of Olomi:

Thank you for welcoming me back although I can argue that I never left. 

Yours below is a bellicose attitude directed at the truth. Look here my friend, the only certainty in life is the truth and no amount of revisionism can change that. 

Oba Akiolu was a usurper and one not qualified for the throne. I wrote that in this forum the day he stole the throne. Akiolu is a dishonest man and not qualified by stint of character for the throne that he occupies. That he is defending himself in court is no news to me.

The Awori are not Yoruba. The Awori who occupy Lagos into Benin Republic and parts of Ogun are not Yoruba and have never subscribed to the fantastical tale of a chain from the sky. That is clearly demonstrated in that piece below. 

By Akiolu was not dissembling. He spoke the truth as the truth that has passed down from time IMO river. If anything one could argue that you are obfuscating the fact so as to confuse the unwashed. 

By the way Ndigbo founded Ile-Ife. It is in every history book and of course you will also obfuscate too on that fact.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

Welcome back!  Do you know for a fact that Akiolu is defending himself as a usurper of the Lagos throne at an Ikeja high court as I write? You are NOT a Yoruba man, you are an imposter. I think it is very strange that everyone wants to claim Yoruba land. Just for the sake of it, when you referenced Lagos, does that include, Ikeja, Ikorodu, Ebute Metta and Badagry? Of course, is it possible you have Lagos Island exclusively in mind?  Even Akiolu has denied ever making such statement. It was a fake news circulated by some Igbo people who hate The Great Yoruba People of the Southwest. The Obi of Onisha now claims Igbo people own Ile-Ife.

Wharf, always remember this, the story of Yoruba is the real story of Nigeria. Yoruba is the straw that mix the drink in Nigeria. You should be happy that you are able to speak Yoruba language. Even Mazi Aduba of Abatete is proud of his proficiency in Yoruba Language.

The Oha 1
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Folks, 

This is not really a bombshell. It is a settled fact. As a kid, sitting with Alhaja, she narrated this same story to us every time. If you doubt me go and ask Koro and others in isale Eko. It is for this reason that Republic of Dahomey changed their name to Republic of Benin. Has anyone ever wondered why the people of Dahomey picked Benin instead of the nearest Yoruba settlements? As an authentic Yoruba man I know this history of Lagos. All others here who puff out their chests and ooze out contentious rhetoric are merely ignorant of this history. Lagos, as Akiolu whom I am not a fan of, said is not a Yoruba town. Lesotho is enclosed inside South Africa but it is not part of South Africa.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Alagba Afis:

The only truth that one could infer from Wharf's bad tales is that he does believe them.  His piece is another outburst that he frequently spew out against his Yoruba benefactors.

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Wharfy,

There you go again. Obafemi Awolowo was born in 1909. Ajayi Crowther translated the Bible into Yoruba in the 1800s. He died way before Awolowo was born. Check your encyclopedia and/or Google.

That names like Obasanjo (as in Olusegun Obasnjo), Obafemi (as in Obafemi Awolowo), Oja Oba (as in an Ibadan market) and chieftaincy titles like Ajiroba, Otunba etc., have been in use for millennia all put the lie to your perennial assertion as to the usage of the word in the Yoruba country.

That much said, trying to create and/or fan embers of discord between the Yoruba and the Edo is one of your favorite pastimes and a colossal waste of time. At the very worst, there is some sibling rivalry between them, but blood is a lot thicker than water. They share a common and glorious past, resulting in a common cultural sophistication, enviable enough to make you a Yoruba wannabe when you are not gripped by uncured hate for the same people. It would therefore not matter much from whence a word used by both originated. Should we care whether the word 'Kedu' was invented in Owerri, Aba or Abagana?

An ju won ko se wi l'ejo, ija ilara ki i tan boro.

Adeniran Adeboye 

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Baduba et al,

There is no gap in the history of Lagos, in the large, on which any professor of history needs to expend any scholarship. However, there are yahooligans who would cough up any argument aimed at detaching Lagos from its Yoruba roots, stem, and branches. Among them you will even find a Yoruba wannabe like Wharfsnake --- a veritable prince 😀among Mushin snakes. He even goes further to try to deny the Yoruba identity of the Awori and that is New "news" for all the Awori of my acquaintance. He needs to find out how the Awori name came about.

The reality on the ground on these fora is that yahooligans are still bent on fighting yesterday's war and they see the Yoruba as easy pick. Oh dear! When will they ever learn? My hope (and prayer) is that they limit their antics toward the Yoruba to the barking, and not go on to bite. The determination and resource which the Yoruba had to summon after August 9, 1967 are still there, in even greater measure, to meet new challenges. Abo oro l'a a so f'omoluwabi, t'o ba de 'nu e, a d'ototo. Translating that into English is a good assignment for Wharfsnake.

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Wharfy,

There you go again. Obafemi Awolowo was born in 1909. Ajayi Crowther translated the Bible into Yoruba in the 1800s. He died way before Awolowo was born. Check your encyclopedia and/or Google.

That names like Obasanjo (as in Olusegun Obasnjo), Obafemi (as in Obafemi Awolowo), Oja Oba (as in an Ibadan market) and chieftaincy titles like Ajiroba, Otunba etc., have been in use for millennia all put the lie to your perennial assertion as to the usage of the word in the Yoruba country.

That much said, trying to create and/or fan embers of discord between the Yoruba and the Edo is one of your favorite pastimes and a colossal waste of time. At the very worst, there is some sibling rivalry between them, but blood is a lot thicker than water. They share a common and glorious past, resulting in a common cultural sophistication, enviable enough to make you a Yoruba wannabe when you are not gripped by uncured hate for the same people. It would therefore not matter much from whence a word used by both originated. Should we care whether the word 'Kedu' was invented in Owerri, Aba or Abagana?

An ju won ko se wi l'ejo, ija ilara ki i tan boro.

Adeniran Adeboye 

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On that date, August 9, 1967, contrary to promises made to Awolowo by each of Gowon and Ojukwu that no part of Midwest, West, and Lagos would be made a war territory, Ojukwu's troops crossed the Onitsha-Asaba bridge, rapidly took over ttpower in Benin and spread to many parts of the West before being fiercely confronted at Ore in the present day Ondo State. 

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When the Obi of Onitsha referenced Ife, he was being truthful. Onitsha people are from Ife, via Benin. It is common knowledge in the east that ''Onitsha people are not Igbo.'' So, what is new?
 
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Good morning sir, our revered Oha 1:

My pal Wharfy needs my help to straighten him out on this one, but there are two kinds of lost souls of all lost souls one should not waste time rescuing........
first kind is the Apiroro, the quintessential Pretender. No matter what you highlight and diagrams drawn, and proof of life unearthed from some Crypt, an Apiroro with a Mind intentionally bent away from facts will insist on his/her fashioned truth.

Then there's the Alagidi-Aimokan, a Stubborn Ignoramus. While Apiroro knows the facts and truth of the issue, the quintessential Ignoramus knows nothing but never never ever wanna learn!

Baba Wharfy is profoundly Ignorant of Yoruba history though he thinks he knows.
Once he states Awori is not Yoruba, and has it on his mind that if a people spread from artificial-Nigeria to the equally artificial Benin Republic, those people in his world are not Yoruba.......once he states it, Baba Wharfy lost all credibility as one who has knowledge of what Yoruba is all about, and its far reaching spread even all the way to the Gha axis.
It is quiet Ignorant to believe in colonial boundaries after many centuries of open-eye in Africa, because one with Colonial belief of that magnitude is the quintessential Aimokan.

Baba Wharfy has no knowledge of the early formations of the many kingdoms and villages, and the Ibode-garrisons.
He doesn't even understand the ethnic formations of Idioro-Mushin Axis, "kabontori" Ile Ife..........if he could tell us who were the first to populate Idioro-Mushin, tell us why the Obanikoros left Okokomaiko area even before Oba Ado to settle across the lagoon, tell us how the Onikoyi settled in Ikoyi........and what was the name of the first Baale of that Idioro Axis.......if he could, I will volunteer to school my pal without taking a dime, it would be my volunteering duty to the CyberTown.

I yawn!
Hope you are enjoying your Memorial Day weekend sir.

Shikena 
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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My last one cent on who founded Lagos is simple. It is important only to extent that such information tickles some cells in our body. The hard fact is anchored on the notion that POSSESSION is nine tenths (9/10) of the law. Yoruba now possesses Lagos. The Bini can salivate on what could have been just as the Igbo now possess PH and the Ikwerre can salivate all they want. The Hausa/Fulani has take possession of Abuja ditto to others concerned over who got there first. This debate is made even sillier by the fact that there is very, very insignificant differences between the possessors and the claimants: Yoruba/Bini; Igbo/Ikwerre; Hausa/Fulani/Abuja. To paraphrase Shakespeare: One will search all day for the differences between these possessors and claimants ere you find it, and when you do it is not worth the search.

I expect slings and arrows and bullets to the parts closest to my heart.

Obiajulu Aduba

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Below is NOT credible presentation with regards to  its ENUMERATION on the Principle of POSSESSION. In fact, it is plain nonsense to suggest such, simple on the basis that POSSESSION can NEVER denote "Ownership".

For example, I rent you my house or I rent an apartment. Typically, there is POSSESSION, meaning as a tenant or resident - I or you (tenant) would have POSSESSION of the property. So, how does my "tenant" or "a tenant" at an apartment in POSSESSION of the property to USE as his or her "dwellings" - now the OWNER of my or the property by MERE possession??

Total nonsense that possession connotes or designates OWNERSHIP!!!

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"Possession" comes from "own".
Without "own", there's no "possession".
Anyone throwing arrows at you for yours below or all that the Inyanminrins are posting on Lagos, must be want of real job.

I tell you why it is unnecessary:
Go to Ojo town, ask them to take you to the sea bed where the waters kiss the land. Raise your face straight up and look out into the seas. 
You will see an island far away like a bad Mohawk hair stubbornly claiming the head of a near balding man.
That island is called Oko Oba, it is "owned" by the Kiniun family, the Awori rulers of Ojo and Igberikos. We spent many good memories there because we own it.
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Afis home from London, big bro and wife from Germany and big sister, chilling on a canoe that brought them to the King's Island (Oko Oba), in 1978.

Every year, the profits from the coconuts harvest are distributed to all the sons and daughters or living relatives in the Kiniun lineage.
Point is, the Island was never called Omo N'oba island, never called EzeNwere from time immemorial. Was never "possessed" by Inyanminrin or harahara. All along it was "owned" by one family and one family only, the Kiniun Family.

Now come with me, Mazi Aduba: Ikoyi Island is "owned" by the Onikoyi-s. Onikoyi means "owners" of Ikoyi.
Ijora is "owned" by the Ojora family. Ijora is by Costain and juts into the swamps that were sandfilled and became the National theatre.
LASU lands and the lands around the old Volkswagen and all the way to Alimosho local government areas including Isheri, Iju waters, Oshodi, all the way to Mile Two are "owned" by the Awori people.

Lagos is not a no-man's land. Lagos is bigger and larger than Iga Idunganran on Lagos Island. Ebutte Metta, Yaba, Surulere, and part of mainland were confiscated by the military govt, BUT THE LANDS ARE GRADUALLY GOING BACK TO THE "OWNERS", BY THE POWERS VESTED IN THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT.
All lands are "owned" by a people known as the Awori.
They may sell part of it but in the long run when all had died down the land goes back to the "owners".
The Spaniards like floods are now reclaiming their lands in Calif, in Texas, in New Mexico etc.
Shikena
Afis
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Mazi Aduba:
Another short story for you and your Inyanminrins.

When the Ijesha traders came to Itire looking for land to settle, the Onitire which means "owner" of Itire, gave the Ijeshas some land in the most swampy areas of Itire. The Ijesha called the place Ijeshatedo.
The administrative head assigned to monitor the Ijesha settlers was one chief "Barua".
Chief Barua was an uncle who was trained in the palace of the Oba of Ojo town, on how to properly manage land and settlers.
Onitire and all, are Awori.

Hope you and your Inyanminrins are learning how Lagos is ruled. 
Oba of Lagos cannot control Onitire of Itire or Onikate of Ikate, or Onibese of Ibese town. Just as Alake of Ake who's erroneously called Alake of Egbaland, cannot control or give orders to Olowu of Owu and other kings in Abeokuta.
Yoruba in some places, operate Confederacy. 
You want land in Ikate, you go to the Onikate family. You want land in Ijora, you deal with the Ojora family, land in Itire you go to the Onitire family.

Got my drift? 
You don't go to Oba Benin or Oba Akiolu of Lagos Island or their families to buy land. Even on the lagos Island, the Oba of Lagos owns little or nothing!
Maroko belongs to the Oniru family.
Victoria Island was forcefully taken from the Oniru Royal family with "compensation", by the Colonialists.....Oniru family are NOT Edo, they are Yoruba.

IF YOU WANT MORE 'TORY, WAIT TILL WE MEET IN JUNE, I will bring you "peppers" signed by Mobolaji Johnson and my grandpa that gave the military some land in Awori proper 🤠🤠🤠

Afis
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On May 30, 2017, at 5:36 AM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Possession" comes from "own".
Without "own", there's no "possession".
Anyone throwing arrows at you for yours below or all that the Inyanminrins are posting on Lagos, must be want of real job.

I tell you why it is unnecessary:
Go to Ojo town, ask them to take you to the sea bed where the waters kiss the land. Raise your face straight up and look out into the seas. 
You will see an island far away like a bad Mohawk hair stubbornly claiming the head of a near balding man.
That island is called Oko Oba, it is "owned" by the Kiniun family, the Awori rulers of Ojo and Igberikos. We spent many good memories there because we own it.

Wharf A. Snake

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Alagba Afis:

Eku ojo meta o!

Ehn, but the Awori are descended from Bini and the reason that the Oba of Benin sent his army to Eko was to calm the nerves of the Awori who were maltreating recent recent immigrants from Bini. It is on  historical record that the Awori readily accepted the Oba's emissary because of that fact.

However I do agree with you and Mazi Aduba that time changes all. After all Idi Araba, Lawanson, et al; were freely given to the Hausa who have assimilated so much that most people can't tell them apart from us, the omoniles. Soon the Igbo of Lagos would also assimilate and many have already.


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On May 30, 2017, at 5:36 AM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Possession" comes from "own".
Without "own", there's no "possession".
Anyone throwing arrows at you for yours below or all that the Inyanminrins are posting on Lagos, must be want of real job.

I tell you why it is unnecessary:
Go to Ojo town, ask them to take you to the sea bed where the waters kiss the land. Raise your face straight up and look out into the seas. 
You will see an island far away like a bad Mohawk hair stubbornly claiming the head of a near balding man.
That island is called Oko Oba, it is "owned" by the Kiniun family, the Awori rulers of Ojo and Igberikos. We spent many good memories there because we own it.

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Alagba Afis,

There you go again. I thought we have established that Awori are Bini and Oba, Oni, et al.. are all Bini words. Alagba are you joining the gang of the apiroros?


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Wharf The Snake of Orlu:

Igbo would be fully assimilated when they give up their names and everything and become Yoruba in every aspects of their lives. No more names like chukwumas or Nwachukus. They must wholly embrace Owanbe in its true form.

It is important to know that Igbo people in Lagos and other Yoruba towns don't want anything to do with the Igbo language. Thus, the Igbo language would be extinct by 2030. The beautiful Sounding Yoruba language would be the language of Southern Nigeria. 

Maxi Aduba  should stop wasting his time trying to save the Igbo language from extinction. It is too late. O Pari.

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Good morning, Baba Wharfy:

No land in Lagos is "given freely", including Idiaraba and Lawanson. Part of Lawanson up to Ayilara and Ojuelegba belong to the Onitire family.
Idiaraba including LUTH areas were confiscated by the builders of the Lagos Univ., just as Ikeja airport lands were confiscated, not "given".
When the military took over they stole, they looted and raped as they liked.
That's over now!

The igbos cannot "assimilate". They are too bombastic, too cantankerous and too belligerent to conform or live peacefully among their hosts.
I will tell you a secret, please don't not leak it to the forum.......there are efforts geared towards the uprooting of Igbos to deposit them near the Nri river. 
It is in the offing!

About Edo and Awori:  egg before hen equals Foul. And I say fa fa Foul.

Awori means "where the plate sinks".
The Aworis were originally from Ile Ife.
As it was the custom of the leading Prince whenever an Ife group was leaving to start their own Town, the Ifa oracle was consulted and the Ifa ordered the Awori Prince to settle where the anointed "plate" sinks into a Lagoon.
Everywhere they reached the ascribed "plate" stayed afloat on all rivers until they got to Lagos, near the Ocean.
Thus "Awori".

Every Awori enclave has a head, Irede has Onirede, Isolo has Osolo of Isolo, Itire has Onitire, Isheri and others have their heads, and none of them pays homage to the Oba of Lagos. Awori people have Head.
You know where this is going, right?

Igbos have no Head. Hahaha!
Headless Igbos cannot account for any notable and historical Head. Even Onitsha is ruled by sub-group from the Yoruba.
Agbor is ruled by sub-Yoruba group.
Headless people cannot even inherit the Wind. 
Anarchy will reign!!!

Afis
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Alagba Afis,

Good morning sir. Ehn did I read you call a republicans headless? Alagba you live in America, a republic, does anarchy reign in America? How about in France?

Moving on...

Ehn the fable is that some of those who followed Izoduwa to Ile-Ife were given a plate made of mud. The plate finally sank into the lagoon - Awo ti ri. Now as you can see this same people were from Bini and followed a plate to present day Lagos formerly Eko. 

The Igbo in Lagos are assimilating already. Of course they won't be docile,cowardly, untrustworthy, partyhogs and owambe and miliki specialists - character flaws of the present Yoruba.

They will dictate the terms of their assimilation.

As a Yorubaman in Lagos I know the origin of Lagos and I also know that the Oba of Benin extracted from traditional rulers in in present day Lagos that his son Oba of Lagos is their head and they all accepted it and subjected themselves to the sovereignty of the Oba of Benin through his son Oba of Lagos.

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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Alagba Afis,
The Igbo in Lagos are assimilating already. Of course they won't be docile,cowardly, untrustworthy, partyhogs and owambe and miliki specialists - character flaws of the present Yoruba.

They will dictate the terms of their assimilation.




As a Yorubaman in Lagos I know the origin of Lagos and I also know that the Oba of Benin extracted from traditional rulers in in present day Lagos that his son Oba of Lagos is their head and they all accepted it and subjected themselves to the sovereignty of the Oba of Benin through his son Oba of Lagos.



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Wharf the Snake of Orlu:
 
The incursion of Oba of Benin into Lagos Island was temporary. It did not last long and that is why there are virtually no vestiges of Benin influence in even in Lagos Island where they temporarily established a beachhead.
 
As for the Igbo dictating the terms of their assimilation into Yoruba culture; that is a wishful thinking. Right now, Igbo people in Odualand are no longer interested in the Igbo culture. They are assimilating the strong and overwhelming Yoruba culture at an alarming rate. They are also encouraging the Igbo people still in the Southeast to do the same. According to Chuks Agwunobi, about 8o percent of Nnewi dwellers speak Yoruba. The Yoruba language is widely spoken in Nnewi market. The only thing left for Igbo to do is to jettison their Igbo names and start answering Yoruba names. Joe Attueyi is a Yoruba man at heart. He may not want to publicly admit that none of his children speak Igbo. They speak Yoruba and English.
 
That is why I am asking Mazi Paul Oranika and Mazi Aduba to stop wasting their time trying to keep Igbo language alive. Their efforts will lead to a dead end.   Most Yoruba movie makers are producing movies in Yoruba Language; while Igbo movie makers take pride in producing virtually all their movies in English. Do I need to say more?
 
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There's no Republican if there is no Republic.
Oba of Lagos cannot claim he's the owner of Lagos. 
Case Closed.

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Nothing to add!
Lobatan!!

Afis
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> On May 30, 2017, at 9:56 AM, DIPO ENIOLA <dipoe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Ogbeni Dipo of Olomi:

What is critical here is that you have accepted that Oba of Benin founded Lagos and his reign could not be short since his descendant is still holding sway over Lagos till today. 

As a Yoruba man and also a Lagosian I am impressed with your acquisition of this particular knowledge.


Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

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The Snake of Orlu:
Biafra made incursion into Benin and Ore. The invasion was temporary. The invading armed forces were promptly expelled. Iraqi forces of Sadam Hussein invaded Kuwait; it was temporary. The Iraqi forces were promptly expelled. I know deep down in your heart you are excited about being born in Odualand. You are lucky to be able to read and write the Yoruba language. You do not have to go to the Yoruba Language School to learn it like Nebu of Owerri/Oguta.
 
I hope you observe today's sit at home order mandated for all Igbo people worldwide by Nnamidi Kanu, the leader of IPOB


The Oha 1
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They may sell part of it but in the long run when all had died down the land goes back to the "owners".--Afis:
Dear Afis:

The original peoples of Lagos (aka. the indigenes i.e. the original and genuine omo-oniles) have learnt their lessons
the hard way. They no longer sell their lands and transfer ownership to the buyers in perpetuity. Landed properties are no longer
'sold' in perpetuity but are premised on 99- year lease agreements following which the descendants of the omo-oniles can always return to either demand their
lands back or get more money--enough for another series of 99 year lease agreements.

Public lands sold to individuals by either local, state or federal government in most jurisdictions in Nigeria are now increasingly based on 99 year
-lease agreements--either renewable or non-renewable.

After 99 years who cares, considering the longevity of the average Nigerian--unless one wants to be pre-occupied with the welfare
of the future generations of family members!

Thus the talk of any region of Nigeria being a "No Man's Land" should now be considered a moot point!

Let us work to make all regions of Nigeria a desirable place that all would covet its ownership--just like some are so driven
that they would consider Lagos and Abuja a "No Man's Land" as long as the native rights and customs and the 'feelings' of
the descendants of the Aborigenes of each and every domain --(inclusive of thise currently alive and yet to be born) are respected.

To do otherwise is to ask for trouble!

"Omo onile a te jeje; alejo a te shau shau." (apologies for my Yoruba misspellings as my Distinction in WAEC Yoruba is no longer evident due to decades of non use)

Translation: The indigene treads lightly on the ground in his walks knowing fully well about the buried (hidden) treasures and dangers of his/her abode;
the unwitting stranger, unaware of these facts is unfortunately handicapped by lack of such native knowledge.

Bye,

Ola

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Dokun Jagun



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Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:01 AM
Subject: OGA ADEBOYE: YOU ARE A MATHEMATICIAN & NOT A HISTORIAN; BINIS WILL NEVER TAKE ANY HISTORY OF LAGOS FROM THE YORUBAS

OGA ADEBOYE: BINIS THAT I KNOW SO MUCH WILL NEVER, NEVER TAKE ANY HISTORY OF LAGOS FROM THE YORUBAS. THEY WILL NEVER, NEVER DO THAT. SO GET OUT OF YOUR HIGH HOUSE AND STOP LECTURING US. NGBATI PEOPLE ARE THIEVES & LAND GRABBERS. 

Oga Adeboye:

First of all, I am one of the Yahooliganist and I am proud of that to checkmate the Ngbati, Ngbati Yahooliganist too. I am very proud of it and will wear it as a Badge of Honor it I die.

Please get off this your emotional cacoon and face the raw facts. Why are you jumping out now to talk? You are among the Yorubas telling us that PH is not Igbo town, Igbos are land grabbers and the Ikwerres are not Igbos.

You and your non Yahooligans didn't tell us why Badagry, Kabba, Ilorin, Offa, Ikenne people and their towns are Yorubas but Ikwerre and PH is not Igbos.

Should we call the Yorubas, land grabbers, greedy, tribalist and confusionist for taking BINI peoples land of EKO too? ALUKO, the born devil and wicked tribalist stated here that Igbos are land grabbers to want to take PH form the Ikwerres. Is he one of the Yahooliganist too?

Igbos are not re-fighting the war but we will not let you and the tribalist Yorubas write without responding to it. And we will not let you or anybody set the agenda on what will be discussed on the Internet.

Talking about war, there will be no war again because Yorubas and Northerners who fought the last war knew that Igbos will not fight is as a tribe under Nigeria but as a Nation with their own arms. And rest assured that Yorubas will not be bombing University of Nigeria, Nsukka, Ochanja, Ariaria, Eziachi and Ogbete market without Igbo war planes destroying UNILAG, UNIFE, UI, YABATECH, Adeyemi, Oshodi, Iddo, Shomolu, Oja Oba and Dugbe Markets. 

Don't come here and intimidate Igbos with war your wicked people started because Igbos will not put that shit with the Yorubas again. You are old and young enough but chickened out and stayed by the side to praise poor peoples children to fight and die for you.

Yorubas go around Nigerians causing confusion and you are now crying. The BINIS always say it that the Yorubas came from BINI and Lagos as EKO is their place. So why are you pointing your finger on Igbos?

You just think that the BINIS and other Nigerians love the Yorubas so much because everybody are in Lagos to share the Nigeria wealth starched there and you think it was due to the kindness of the Yorubas.

Yes, what you said in Yorubas is true about Nigeria. And you achieved that during the war in the absence of Igbos. So Wharfsnake don't need to do anything about it.

And with this, I rest my case.
 
Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi
Seattle, Washington U. S. A


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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin.

Baduba et al,

There is no gap in the history of Lagos, in the large, on which any professor of history needs to expend any scholarship. However, there are yahooligans who would cough up any argument aimed at detaching Lagos from its Yoruba roots, stem, and branches. Among them you will even find a Yoruba wannabe like Wharfsnake --- a veritable prince 😀among Mushin snakes. He even goes further to try to deny the Yoruba identity of the Awori and that is New "news" for all the Awori of my acquaintance. He needs to find out how the Awori name came about.

The reality on the ground on these fora is that yahooligans are still bent on fighting yesterday's war and they see the Yoruba as easy pick. Oh dear! When will they ever learn? My hope (and prayer) is that they limit their antics toward the Yoruba to the barking, and not go on to bite. The determination and resource which the Yoruba had to summon after August 9, 1967 are still there, in even greater measure, to meet new challenges. Abo oro l'a a so f'omoluwabi, t'o ba de 'nu e, a d'ototo. Translating that into English is a good assignment for Wharfsnake.

Sincerely,

Adeniran Adeboye 









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On May 27, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Baduba54 <badu...@aol.com> wrote:

This discussion is going on simply because our university professors are lazy. If we have devoted history professors, this debate would be going on in peer reviewed history papers where name calling would not be part of the discussions. A city like Lagos (as opposed to say Achi town) which has long contacts with Europe, should by now have had reasonably established historical records establishing its origins. But here we are in 2017 going with he-said & she-said.

What had the professors of history in Ibadan, Lagos, Nsukka, Ife, ABU, etc.  doing all these years?

Aduba 


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Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 11:08 am
Subject: Re: Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin.

Dear All:

The ongoing disinformation campaign aimed at denying the essence of Lagos
as a  territory founded largely by the Yoruba is  increasingly sounding like the Russian disinformation
campaign directed against Hillary Clinton which successfully` installed Donald Drumpf (aka Trump)
as the President of the USA.

Where would also these lies lead us?

Who is benefiting from this disinformation?

Bye,

Ola



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Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 6:33 am
Subject: Re: Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin.

Oba Akiolu disowns false claims on Lagos history.   The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwanu Akiolu today ina chat with a few journalists dismissed as "the ranting of idiots" a trending story that Lagos is not a Yorubaland. Speaking at the Jumat service held at the Lagos Central Mosque today, the Oba said those who wish to distort the history of and  Lagos the "undisputable Yoruba seal" are free to do so but that "facts are different from fiction." The Oba stated "I have nor issued any statement on the origin of Lagos. Its unfortunate that idiots and vagabounda have taken over the cyber space. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet." He said anybody whp says Lagos is not Yoruba land "must be an idiot".The Oba said it is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with "unstable minds" whom he said are out to distort  the "legendary Yoruba history of which Lagos ia proud of".  He said "let those people say anything they like. They can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that "history of Lagos and  her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze."

On 25 May 2017 8:32 p.m., Adewale Adeoye <walead...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oba Akiolu disowns false claims on Lagos history.   The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwanu Akiolu today ina chat with a few journalists dismissed as "the ranting of idiots" a trending story that Lagos is not a Yorubaland. Speaking at the Jumat service held at the Lagos Central Mosque today, the Oba said those who wish to distort the history of and  Lagos the "undisputable Yoruba seal" are free to do so but that "facts are different from fiction." The Oba stated "I have nor issued any statement on the origin of Lagos. Its unfortunate that idiots and vagabounda have taken over the cyber space. As a king, I do not need to respond to any silly statement I read on the internet." He said anybody whp says Lagos is not Yoruba land "must be an idiot".The Oba said it is not in his character to discuss issues of importance and royalty with "unstable minds" whom he said are out to distort  the "legendary Yoruba history of which Lagos ia proud of".  He said "let those people say anything they like. They can even say that Lagos belongs to Iraq. But the truth is that "history of Lagos and  her Yoruba heritage dates back to 10th century which no one can eraze."
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"BINIS WILL NEVER TAKE ANY HISTORY OF LAGOS FROM THE YORUBAS"......by ChukwuEzeNwera Agwunobi.



And if Binis did not take any lagos history from Yoruba, what does that really mean in real-useful-time?
Waste of time!
Yoruba rules lagos.
Yoruba owns lands and infrastructures in lagos.
Wealth of lagos is distributed by Yoruba as they want.
So of what importance is the statement above?
Chukwuma AgwuZombie, you are Mad no be small.
Afis
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