Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 1:08 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote: Kayusee
On Apr 21, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different stoked for folks !
Ya kpọtụba!
Ya gazie.
Ụmụ nne Abrahamụọgụ Aṅụsịobi Madụ.
“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.” - Victor Ogundipe, PhD
Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!
I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.
Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.
Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.
Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.
Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.
Cyril Anyanwu
On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
On June 20, 1962, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Prime Minister of the Federation, appointed a Commission headed by Justice George Baptist Ayodola Coker, to inquire into the financial and investment policies and practices, the management and the business operations of six statutory corporations in Western Nigeria since October 1, 1954.
The affected companies are Western Region Marketing Board, the Western Nigeria Development Corporation, the Western Region Finance Corporation and the Western Region Housing Corporation. Other members of the panel were Mr. Oladiran Booyamin Kassim, Acting Judge of the High Court of Eastern Nigeria; and Mr. Akintola Williams (100), a Lagos chartered accountant.
The Commission sat for 92 days and had 50 witnesses. Chief Awolowo who on November 2, 1962, had been charged again with conspiring to overthrow the Federal Government by force had refused to give evidence before the Coker Commission of Inquiry. From Lagos Prison, when awaiting trial, he sent a letter to the Chairman of the inquiry, Dr. Coker, saying that he had come to the conclusion that no useful purpose would be served by his further participation in the inquiry. The inquiry did not find Chief Awolowo guilty.
It made only two recommendations that the Western Nigeria Marketing Board should take over immediately all properties of the National Investment and Properties Company Ltd, that the Board should take steps to recover from the Action Group a sum of N8, 000,000 which Action Group had received from the National Investment and Properties Company between April 18, 1958 and May 31, 1962. In a White Paper issued with the report, the Federal Government endorsed it. In a statement signed by Chief Awolowo, the Action Group rejected the report.
The party alleged that it was "produced with unprecedented ruthless speed and wanton disregard for facts". Incidentally, the affected companies mentioned at the Coker Commission of Inquiry are today the foundation upon which Odua Investment Company was built. They are today the goldmines. The stone that the builders rejected has now become the corner stone.
Odua Investment Company was formally established in 1976 when Ondo and Ogun states were created out of Western state. The company was to take charge of the assets and liabilities of the whole Western Region. As a reporter with The Nigerian Herald at that time, I covered the inauguration of the new company at Cocoa House in Ibadan with the governor of Oyo State, Colonel David Medayese Jemibewon (79) from Aiyetoro Gbede in Kogi State presiding with two other governors present, namely: Colonel Seidu Ayodele Balogun (Ogun) from Ido Ani in Ondo State and Wing Commader David Ita Ikpeme (Ondo).
The pioneer Group Managing Director of the company then was Mr. Christopher Sunday Olatunji Akande. Mr. Akande (1927-2005) hailed from Arigidi, Akoko in Ondo State, the same town that produced Justice Olakunle Joseph Orojo (1923-2009), the first indigenous Director of Law School, Chief Felix Idowu Ayegbusi (1935-2019), former National Chairman, Planned Parenthood Federation of Nigeria; Pastor T.B. Joshua and Aare Ona Kakanfo, Gani Adams.
After Chief Akande was Chief Francis Mogaji from Efon-Alaye in Ekiti State, 1979 to 1983, an Accountant from Ekiti State who previously worked with UAC & Food Specialties now Nestle Nigeria Plc. Chief Iyowu from Ogun State took over from Chief Mogaji and served from 1984 to 1989. He was previously Managing Director of Cocoa Industries Ltd, Ikeja, which processed cocoa beans to cocoa butter and cake and manufactured Vitalo Cocoa beverage that ranked third to Bournvita and Milo in this category.
Chief Olufemi Adewumi also from Ekiti State who served as MD of Wemabod Estates Ltd before becoming Group Managing Director from 1989 to 1993, Alhaji Aruna, a Lawyer from Oyo State was Group Managing Director from 1994 to 1997 while Sir Remi Omotoso, from Ekiti State, ex-Unilever served from 1998 to 2004, Dr. Adebayo Jimoh, ex-John Holt was Group Managing Director from 2005 to 2014.
The functioning Companies of Odua Group are Wemabod Estates Ltd (Real Estate), Glanvill Enthoven (Insurance Brokers), Lagos Airport Hotel, Ikeja, Premier Hotel and Lafia Hotel at Ibadan(Hospitality), E & O Power & Equipment Leasing and Odua Printing & Publishing Co Ltd. Prominent companies where Odua Group have minority interests courtesy of being seed investor are Nigerite Ltd, Lafarge Wapco, Wema Bank Plc, Tower Aluminum Plc, Great Nigeria Insurance Plc, Crittall Hope, Ire Clay Products Ltd, SKG-Pharma, etc.
The people who flew the flag of Odua Investment Company, especially the past and present governors who served in the SouthWest, are appreciated. The flag must not fly half-mast during the era of Arakunrin Oluwarotimi Akeredolu, SAN, (Ondo); Mr. Babajide Sanwo-Olu (Lagos); Mr. Gboyega Oyetola (Osun); Mr. Seyi Makinde (Oyo); Dr. Kayode Fayemi (Ekiti) and Prince Dapo Abiodun (Ogun). I also appreciate Otunba Mohammed Jobi-Fele (1940-2011), a cocoa merchant from Ikare in Ondo State, who had earlier served as Chairman of Odua and who stood his ground during his tenure and ensured that the company must survive and be sustained.
I understand that the Odua Investment Company wants to diversify into agriculture which was the main goal of Chief Obafemi Awolowo when he established the farm settlements in the old Western Region. Efforts must be made to save Odua Investment Company and the South West governors must ensure that this regional legacy must not only be sustained but improved upon.
As long as Odua Investment Company exists those clamouring for restructuring and regionalism are on solid ground. If other zones of this country are encouraged to develop on their own, there will be less dependence on the centre. And the way we are going now, there may be nothing left to share again in the centre. In short we are heading towards a situation where You Are On Your Own.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 1:23 PM, Kayode Adebayo<kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On June 20, 1962, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Prime Minister of the Federation, appointed a Commission headed by Justice George Baptist Ayodola Coker, to inquire into the financial and investment policies and practices, the management and the business operations of six statutory corporations in Western Nigeria since October 1, 1954.
The affected companies are Western Region Marketing Board, the Western Nigeria Development Corporation, the Western Region Finance Corporation and the Western Region Housing Corporation. Other members of the panel were Mr. Oladiran Booyamin Kassim, Acting Judge of the High Court of Eastern Nigeria; and Mr. Akintola Williams (100), a Lagos chartered accountant.
The Commission sat for 92 days and had 50 witnesses. Chief Awolowo who on November 2, 1962, had been charged again with conspiring to overthrow the Federal Government by force had refused to give evidence before the Coker Commission of Inquiry. From Lagos Prison, when awaiting trial, he sent a letter to the Chairman of the inquiry, Dr. Coker, saying that he had come to the conclusion that no useful purpose would be served by his further participation in the inquiry. The inquiry did not find Chief Awolowo guilty.
It made only two recommendations that the Western Nigeria Marketing Board should take over immediately all properties of the National Investment and Properties Company Ltd, that the Board should take steps to recover from the Action Group a sum of N8, 000,000 which Action Group had received from the National Investment and Properties Company between April 18, 1958 and May 31, 1962. In a White Paper issued with the report, the Federal Government endorsed it. In a statement signed by Chief Awolowo, the Action Group rejected the report.
The party alleged that it was "produced with unprecedented ruthless speed and wanton disregard for facts". Incidentally, the affected companies mentioned at the Coker Commission of Inquiry are today the foundation upon which Odua Investment Company was built. They are today the goldmines. The stone that the builders rejected has now become the corner stone.
Odua Investment Company was formally established in 1976 when Ondo and Ogun states were created out of Western state. The company was to take charge of the assets and liabilities of the whole Western Region. As a reporter with The Nigerian Herald at that time, I covered the inauguration of the new company at Cocoa House in Ibadan with the governor of Oyo State, Colonel David Medayese Jemibewon (79) from Aiyetoro Gbede in Kogi State presiding with two other governors present, namely: Colonel Seidu Ayodele Balogun (Ogun) from Ido Ani in Ondo State and Wing Commader David Ita Ikpeme (Ondo).
The pioneer Group Managing Director of the company then was Mr. Christopher Sunday Olatunji Akande. Mr. Akande (1927-2005) hailed from Arigidi, Akoko in Ondo State, the same town that produced Justice Olakunle Joseph Orojo (1923-2009), the first indigenous Director of Law School, Chief Felix Idowu Ayegbusi (1935-2019), former National Chairman, Planned Parenthood Federation of Nigeria; Pastor T.B. Joshua and Aare Ona Kakanfo, Gani Adams.
After Chief Akande was Chief Francis Mogaji from Efon-Alaye in Ekiti State, 1979 to 1983, an Accountant from Ekiti State who previously worked with UAC & Food Specialties now Nestle Nigeria Plc. Chief Iyowu from Ogun State took over from Chief Mogaji and served from 1984 to 1989. He was previously Managing Director of Cocoa Industries Ltd, Ikeja, which processed cocoa beans to cocoa butter and cake and manufactured Vitalo Cocoa beverage that ranked third to Bournvita and Milo in this category.
Chief Olufemi Adewumi also from Ekiti State who served as MD of Wemabod Estates Ltd before becoming Group Managing Director from 1989 to 1993, Alhaji Aruna, a Lawyer from Oyo State was Group Managing Director from 1994 to 1997 while Sir Remi Omotoso, from Ekiti State, ex-Unilever served from 1998 to 2004, Dr. Adebayo Jimoh, ex-John Holt was Group Managing Director from 2005 to 2014.
The functioning Companies of Odua Group are Wemabod Estates Ltd (Real Estate), Glanvill Enthoven (Insurance Brokers), Lagos Airport Hotel, Ikeja, Premier Hotel and Lafia Hotel at Ibadan(Hospitality), E & O Power & Equipment Leasing and Odua Printing & Publishing Co Ltd. Prominent companies where Odua Group have minority interests courtesy of being seed investor are Nigerite Ltd, Lafarge Wapco, Wema Bank Plc, Tower Aluminum Plc, Great Nigeria Insurance Plc, Crittall Hope, Ire Clay Products Ltd, SKG-Pharma, etc.
The people who flew the flag of Odua Investment Company, especially the past and present governors who served in the SouthWest, are appreciated. The flag must not fly half-mast during the era of Arakunrin Oluwarotimi Akeredolu, SAN, (Ondo); Mr. Babajide Sanwo-Olu (Lagos); Mr. Gboyega Oyetola (Osun); Mr. Seyi Makinde (Oyo); Dr. Kayode Fayemi (Ekiti) and Prince Dapo Abiodun (Ogun). I also appreciate Otunba Mohammed Jobi-Fele (1940-2011), a cocoa merchant from Ikare in Ondo State, who had earlier served as Chairman of Odua and who stood his ground during his tenure and ensured that the company must survive and be sustained.
I understand that the Odua Investment Company wants to diversify into agriculture which was the main goal of Chief Obafemi Awolowo when he established the farm settlements in the old Western Region. Efforts must be made to save Odua Investment Company and the South West governors must ensure that this regional legacy must not only be sustained but improved upon.
As long as Odua Investment Company exists those clamouring for restructuring and regionalism are on solid ground. If other zones of this country are encouraged to develop on their own, there will be less dependence on the centre. And the way we are going now, there may be nothing left to share again in the centre. In short we are heading towards a situation where You Are On Your Own.
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 4:57 AM, 'Afis' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Alagbo Afis, when we tell you that the Imbecilic Imperial is a Fulani hegemonist foot soldiers you guys were preaching for us to take things easy with him
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 11:10 AM, 'Imperial' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Stevek:
You seem to have been trained in logical reasoning, could you help me out with the below dilemma?
EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW IS SHOWN TO ME THROUGH MY FIVE SENSES, SEEING, HEARING, SMELLING, FEELING AND TOUCHING; SUPPOSE THAT THOSE ARE DESIGNED TO LIMIT MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE PHENOMENAL WORLD IT SHOWS ME AND THERE ARE OTHER WORLDS THAT THEY CANNOT SHOW ME?
Ozodi Osuji
Everything that I know or think that I know is through the auspices of my five senses, seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, feeling; they show me what is called the empirical world, the phenomenal world of space, time and matter.
Now, suppose that there are other worlds that they cannot show me? This is the shortcoming of knowledge derived from empiricism, perceiving what is in front of us; whereas we can observe the phenomenal world, verify it, experiment on it and use science to understand it, and do technology based on that science, that still does not answer the question of whether there are other worlds that our five senses cannot show us.
Mystics claim to have suspended their five senses and experienced the world of light forms and the formless light world of God.
If one is not a mystic one does not have proof for those worlds and would be cowardly to accept them; all that one can do is have an open mind that many things may exist that given our methodology that perceives with our physical senses, we do not know.
I am currently rereading:
Evelyn Underhill (1911/2006). Mysticism. New York: Dover Books.
The lady is incredibly smart; her book shows erudition seldom found in ordinary human beings like me. She is a first-rate English writer; reading every chapter is like reviewing what you studied in philosophy (ontology, epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, beauty and so on).
She delt a devastating blow to David Hume, August Comte and Saint Simon’s insistence on us relying only on our five senses in ascertaining what is knowledge. May be George Berkeley’s solipsism and Henri Bergson’s vitalism have a place in knowledge?
Whereas we must rely on our senses we also know that our senses sometimes show us what is not there (illusions), thus, the need to question the stimuli from the physical environment picked up by our senses.
For now, I am going to allow the logical positivist, empiricist and scientist in me to prevail. I am not going to do what Soren Kierkegaard suggested and make a leap of faith and accept what I do not see, God.
I will limit myself to the world of the here and now and see whether it really can make a convincing argument that this empirical world is all there is to existence; I am going to suspend my judgement and accept Richard Dawkins barking that the clock was made by a blind watch maker, even though something tells me that there needs to be intelligence outside of matter, space and time to make that watch that he talks a lot about; I do not see how a monkey can keep banging away at a type writer and pound out William Shakespeare’s immortal plays!
Ozodi Osuji
April 22, 2022
On 22 Apr 2022, at 11:26, BUSKA OLADOSU <alare...@gmail.com> wrote:
Who cares if you are spying not only for the sultan but devil himself
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I, read all the books of another English writer, like Evelyn’s Underhill, while I was in Form 2 in secondary school before I became a seeking Catholic and learned all the philosophy, logic, and science thereafter in the university. It set a path for my life… knowledgewise.
Her name was Marie Corelli.
It prepared my mind to look out for and validate the extraordinary concepts she put fort in her writing, especially, in “Ardith’, ‘Temporal Power’, ‘The Sorrows of Satan’, and others. This while my mates were reading novels by James Hardley Chase and Ian Fleming.
I just saw this. I will respond to it soon.
On Apr 21, 2022, at 9:44 AM, femi Olajide <olajid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oga Imperial,
A purported researced story like this should be supported with factual references. I don't see any. Merely saying it was researched is not good enough as some of us do not even know the writer from Adam.
Regards,
Femi Olajide.
On Thursday, 21 April 2022, 13:42:01 GMT+1, 'Imperial' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different stoked for folks !
PreambleFew days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.How They MetAkintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.The Real IssueLet me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?NOTEI checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.Victor Ogundipe, PhDSent from my iPhone
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 16:22, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Imperial, let’s not discuss it out of anger.
Let’s start from the beginning again.When you posted the biased opinion from one Ogundipe, and you were challenged, you pointed us to the Coker Commission report.Someone posted probably parts of the report, I’m guessing the summary which did not show any indictments of Awo.You came back again referring us to the same report…….my question:Please, don’t you think you should post the Coker Report in full texts so that we all can share in your knowledge?I won’t lie, I read bits and pieces of the Coker report in the past, not the whole report, but as far as I have read including the parts posted by someone here, I did not read about any indictments.Now another question:Was there a court proceedings stemming out of those indictments you mentioned casually?If so, please post the court proceedings.Hope I sound civil enough.I apologize if I got carried away, Awolowo is not someone to soil while I’m alive.
Shikena
AfisSent from my iPhone
On Apr 22, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Afis
I am not a politicians and don’t hero-worship any Nigerian politician, dead or living.It’s only those with poor judgement or those victims of bandwagon that lack full information about the events of past that would see any Nigerian politician as superhuman.
Please don’t behave like a common Afenifere thug call Buska .Sent from my iPhone
The fact that Awolowo government was indicted for corruption by the Coker Commission of Inquiry in 1962 is settled and gazetteed . What some of his top supporters were saying then is that the commission‘s report should have been extended to cover the regime of his erstwhile deputy, SL Akintola . Let’s stop hiding behind a needle if we truly like to move forward .Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Apr 2022, at 04:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial.
He’s a troublemaker.🤣No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.
Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!
Afis“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
KayuseeI shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine .The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962.
Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imperial:
Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
PreambleFew days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.How They MetAkintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.The Real IssueLet me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?NOTEI checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.Victor Ogundipe, PhDSent from my iPhone
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Two idiots praising each other with bullshit invisible ropes the colonial masters left on their necks:
Read their salutation here if it isn’t clownish.
Stevek: Ha! Sir brother Sir.
Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo, no knight is as big as you Sir.
Stevek: My Girlie-man my head dey swell oo. You call me Sir Knight. Haba! Only me? Ha, my rotten teeth greet you ooo.
Two dumb blind mice.
On Apr 22, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Imagine a Court Jester like Afis, alien to the ethos of decorum calling others clowns?
Cyril Anyanwu
From: Stevek
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 11:17 AM
To: Cyril Anyanwu; Afis; Nebukadineze Adiele
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Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
Brother Sir!
Just a few minutes ago when I was in the shower, I was wondering what should precede a response I should ever give this creature, if he ever wrote something so damaging to the Res Republica (The Common Good) that I had to respond to him; I don’t respond to him, no matter what, since he called The Mother of God that unprintable name.
Thank you, Sir, for providing me the words!
Stevek
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On Friday, April 22, 2022, 12:03 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
“I don’t want you in my spam folder because I appreciate your thought when you aren’t aping African American teenage girls and trans women, so I am going to ensure that I didn’t accidentally block you. By the way.” - Nebukadineze Adiele
************
You are just a dishonest person lacking also in honor.
Hence my reluctance to have further interactions with you.
Cyril Anyanwu
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 9:56 PM
To: Nebukadineze Adiele
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
“ You and your phony knight (Stevek) Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.”………..Nebu.
Hahahahaha!
The two of them are clowns.
Two idiots praising each other with bullshit the colonial masters left on their necks:
Stevek: Sir brother Sir.
Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo no knight is as big as you Sir.
Two dumb blind mice.
🤣🤣🤣
Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2022, at 9:13 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Lasherief of North Dallas,
I didn’t see your bitchiness, you’ve likely joined the deranged ape in my spam folder. In any case, if you are poorly educated, don’t brag about it because doing so makes you seem dumb.
When a PhD holder writes something and appends PhD to his name, underneath the article, he/she is conveying to the recipients of the article that it was properly researched and constitutes an expert’s position. What Ogundipe wrote is not commonly knowledge, and since he didn’t apply academic methodology in writing it, it is his personal opinion and he should not have appended his PhD underneath it. Equally, no one needs to follow or honor his hollow and dishonest demand for a “verified contrary opinion” in rejecting his piece since he lacked the academic discipline to have written in a verifiable format.
You and your phony knight Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.
I don’t want you in my spam folder because I appreciate your thought when you aren’t aping African American teenage girls and trans women, so I am going to ensure that I didn’t accidentally block you. By the way. I now know from where, in Obowo, you hail. If you ever disrespect me, youngsters from there would ask you one or two questions.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Bravo, Cyril.
In this place, arguments consists only of baseless condemnation by declarative proclamations.
To wit, none of the arguments against the author have provided no single contrary facts that the dispute by fiat.
That doesn’t mean that disagreeing is wrong or unacceptable.
It means that one has to advance facts to argue against ‘facts’ that one contests.
You are right that it is irrelevant whether the poster has a Ph.D or not because nothing he wrote require academic citation. Indeed, most of the critical information - except that part about Akintola ‘writing the party constitution’ is already in Wikipedia.
And, as you said, no tree exists without roots. And, Awolowo, as a founding father, is part of the tap root of our country.
And that includes corruption.
Personally, I don’t expect any better from the contestants, so far.
On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 4:26 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.” - Victor Ogundipe, PhD
Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!
I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.
Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.
Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.
Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.
Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.
Cyril Anyanwu
From: Nebukadineze Adiele
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:16 PM
To: Kayode Adebayo; Imperial
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Subject: Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Kayusee
I shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine .
The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962.
Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.
Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial
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Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
Preamble
Few days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.
How They Met
Akintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.
He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.
The Real Issue
Let me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.
If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?
NOTE
I checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.
Victor Ogundipe, PhD
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On Apr 22, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Ozodi Osuji <ozodi...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
On Apr 22, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why do illiterate Yoruba people always revert back to Yoruba language, as if all the audience being addressed understand the language?I have never met a single educated - even marginally educated - Yoruba who revert to Yoruba language unless their intended audience are Yoruba speaking or are trying to communicate a concept that is not in English, such as ‘orita meta’ or ‘ebora’!.Would someone tell this ugly obese thieving fool without even a GED to go get some minimal education before he comes here to continue inserting himself where he doesn’t belong and disgracing himself?
Imagine this kind of of an unprincipled nonentity calling anyone ‘drunken’.This guy is probably drinking continuously to drown his sorrows from his multiple afflictions that include estrangement from even his own family!
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 10:54 AM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Our Yoruba say, abanije koni gbayi lailai forever and ever!When as usual Imperial brought out an opinionated and biased concoction written by a Victor Ogundipe, this drunken Stevek wrote this:“To wit, none of the arguments against the author have provided no single contrary facts that the dispute by fiat.”……..Retired Pesticides Fumigator, Stevek.But when evidence were posted, historical facts from the Coker Commission report, this inebriated fool, Stevek a Pesticides Fumigator, turns anti-clockwise with this Idiocy:“Even the Coker Report is not a reference because it is a mere collection of testimonies that could have been lies. At least, the Coker Commission did not put those who testified under a polygraph test.”……….Dumb Ass Stevek.
I think Stevek believes we’re all inebriated like he’s always plastered.It was his lapdog, Imperial, who touted and pointed us towards the Coker report. Someone did a brilliant research and posted it for all to read.
Stevek the fool at 80yrs old, is now claiming the Coker Commission report was only full of opinions and lies, because the report proved Imperial and “PhD” Ogundipe as liars and destroyers of good people.Stevek now rejects the same Coker report they hung their arguments on.In his stupid opinion, because in 1962 the Coker Commission “ did not put those who testified under a polygraph test”, the report is full of lies………let me repeat it, in 1962, Coker Commission did not order polygraph tests on those who testified, says omugo Stevek.🤣🤣🤣These are the morons we have to debate issues with!How many Commissions of inquiry in Nigeria have ever performed polygraph tests before presenting their findings in Nigeria, even in UK or USA.We saw the 9/11 commission in 2002, live on tv.Was there any person put under the polygraph test?These guys are a waste of time.They just know how to destroy people’s names. If this is how they choose to live their lives badmouthing good people, most of these guys are going to die poor and unsung!!Oloobuuku kan dede ni awon omo ti nkankan ko biyi.Awon people yi won le ri batise ooo, kii sepe.Afis
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On Apr 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Kayode,Clearly, you have never written or defended a thesis nor have you ever published a paper in a peer-review publication nor produced a public document for use in government regulation or lawmaking.Such a reference is, necessarily, validated or confirmed by at least one independent source.Thus, a reference is a document or source that contains a verified or established fact, such as exposure to COVID-19 virus causes COVID-19 symptoms and is validated by one or more independent source.What you are contriving as a ‘reference’ is concurrent individual opinions, either personally acquired or read in the newspaper - such as you and I had when these events under discussion is going on. Even the Coker Report is not a reference because it is a mere collection of testimonies that could have been lies. At least, the Coker Commission did not put those who testified under a polygraph test.Merely repeating hearsay from those who heard the same story you heard at the time, no matter how highly placed, is just hearsay; it is not a reference!
You do very well here in the things you do but you poison your own excellent contribution with your strange behavior.
On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 9:44 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nebukadimental Adiele To Dummy Cyril Anyanwu:
"In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago." --- Nebukadimental AdieleHahaha!Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 6:27 PM, Kayode Adebayo<kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brainless Biafran Idiot Called Cyril Anyanwu:
"I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite" --- Brainless Biafran Dummy Called Cyril AnyanwuWhy wouldn't you agree with your fellow idiot who concocted the lies? It's a Biafran wish that Awolowo was corrupt because of the role he played during Gowon Regime against Biafra. The liar who wrote the article who claimed he has a PhD didn't cite any authority as a source of his research. Of course, he is from Ogbomosho, the home of Akintola trying to rewrite history that never happened. He knows stupid people like you would jump on it and run with it, because you have a dubious and mischievous motive like him.
You're a disgrace to humanity.
“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.” - Victor Ogundipe, PhD
Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!
I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.
Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.
Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.
Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.
Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.
Cyril Anyanwu
From: Nebukadineze Adiele
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Subject: Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.
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You are just a dishonest person lacking also in honor.
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Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
Brother Sir!
Just a few minutes ago when I was in the shower, I was wondering what should precede a response I should ever give this creature, if he ever wrote something so damaging to the
Res Republica (The Common Good) that I had to respond to him; I don’t respond to him, no matter what, since he called The Mother of God that unprintable name.
Thank you, Sir, for providing me the words!
Stevek
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 10:54 AM, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Two idiots praising each other with bullshit invisible ropes the colonial masters left on their necks:
Read their salutation here if it isn’t clownish.
Stevek: Ha! Sir brother Sir.
Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo, no knight is as big as you Sir.
Stevek: My Girlie-man my head dey swell oo. You call me Sir Knight. Haba! Only me? Ha, my rotten teeth greet you ooo.
🤣🤣🤣
Two dumb blind mice.
On Apr 22, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Kayode Adebayo<kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:Imperial:"Did you know that the popular Cocoa House in Ibadan, ( originally owned by a private company, the NIPC )was one of the several assets forfeited to the Western Region government by the NIPC to offset the debt owed to the Western Region ?" ---- ImperialThat's a lie. The Cocoa House was established by Awolowo and it was funded with proceeds from sales sales of Cocoa in the Western Region.I'm very disappointed in you.Kayode
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different stoked for folks !
On Apr 22, 2022, at 5:17 PM, vin modebelu <vin.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier.
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 22:51, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
“That's a lie. The Cocoa House was established by Awolowo and it was funded with proceeds from sales sales of Cocoa in the Western Region.”
Mr. Adebayo,This is an example of the good work you do here.You don’t need the insults; leave that the life-beached old men, nonentities, and assorted idle crazies.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 4:07 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imperial:"I can remember that top members of the Action Group namely : Samuel Tubosun Sonibare, Chief Alfred Rewane, Alhaji Sule Gbadamosi and Chief S O Lanlehin ( all associates of Chief Awolowo ) wercorruptly & surreptitiously granted about over £6 million pounds by the Regional government in the name of their private company called Nigerian Investment Property Company ( NIPC) ." ---- Imperial
That's another lie. Why don't you post your source on the forums? I challenge you to do so.
"Did you know that the popular Cocoa House in Ibadan, ( originally owned by a private company, the NIPC )was one of the several assets forfeited to the Western Region government by the NIPC to offset the debt owed to the Western Region ?" ---- ImperialThat's a lie. The Cocoa House was established by Awolowo and it was funded with proceeds from sales sales of Cocoa in the Western Region.
I'm very disappointed in you.Kayode
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
AfisGood. I think you can obtain a full copy of the Coker Commission of Inquiry from University of Florida .I can remember that top members of the Action Group namely : Samuel Tubosun Sonibare, Chief Alfred Rewane, Alhaji Sule Gbadamosi and Chief S O Lanlehin ( all associates of Chief Awolowo ) were corruptly & surreptitiously granted about over £6 million pounds by the Regional government in the name of their private company called Nigerian Investment Property Company ( NIPC) .Did you know that the popular Cocoa House in Ibadan, ( originally owned by a private company, the NIPC )was one of the several assets forfeited to the Western Region government by the NIPC to offset the debt owed to the Western Region ?
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 16:22, afis 'Deinde <odide...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Imperial, let’s not discuss it out of anger.Let’s start from the beginning again.When you posted the biased opinion from one Ogundipe, and you were challenged, you pointed us to the Coker Commission report.Someone posted probably parts of the report, I’m guessing the summary which did not show any indictments of Awo.You came back again referring us to the same report…….my question:Please, don’t you think you should post the Coker Report in full texts so that we all can share in your knowledge?I won’t lie, I read bits and pieces of the Coker report in the past, not the whole report, but as far as I have read including the parts posted by someone here, I did not read about any indictments.Now another question:Was there a court proceedings stemming out of those indictments you mentioned casually?If so, please post the court proceedings.Hope I sound civil enough.I apologize if I got carried away, Awolowo is not someone to soil while I’m alive.
Shikena
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On Apr 22, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
AfisI am not a politicians and don’t hero-worship any Nigerian politician, dead or living.It’s only those with poor judgement or those victims of bandwagon that lack full information about the events of past that would see any Nigerian politician as superhuman.Please don’t behave like a common Afenifere thug call Buska .
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 04:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial.
He’s a troublemaker.🤣No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.
Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!
Afis“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
KayuseeI shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine .The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962.
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On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imperial:
Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial
<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
PreambleFew days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.How They MetAkintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.The Real IssueLet me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?NOTEI checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.Victor Ogundipe, PhDSent from my iPhone
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He was managing director of a controversial company, National Investment and Properties Corporation, a private company that was linked with AG and the regional government and whose directors were all party members. The company was formed in 1958 by the Action Group to evade a new piece of legislation curtailing the use of banks to finance party activities. Previously, the party was involved in a murky arrangement with National Bank for financing.[3]Under N.I.P.C.'s relationship with AG, the private firm borrowed money from the Western regional marketing board to invest in the country. The money was used to develop some properties that included Cocoa House, Ibadan and Western House, Broad Street, Lagos.[4]In 1962, a tribunal under Justice G.B.A. Coker probed a six-million-pound loan that was extended to N.I.P.C. by the Western Region Marketing Board. At the inquiry, it was noted that N.I.P.C. was an investment arm of the Action Group to fund party activities.[5] The assets of N.I.P.C. were transferred to WEMABOD.
When a state of emergency became effective in the region, Shonibare was limited to Ondo town; he died in January 1964, weeks after the state of emergency was lifted. Shonibare was chairman of Amalgamated Press Ltd, Ikeja. Prior to his death, he founded Shonny Investments which was in the process of developing Maryland Estate. He was also involved in a mobile film unit and a printing business.
On 23 Apr 2022, at 01:15, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pretty murky!Looks like an entity specially set up legally as a quasi parastatal for flexible use and plausible deniability!Stevek
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 8:37 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Coker Commission had no achievements. It was politically motivated by Akintola in connivance with NPC in the North, in order to derail Awolowo.Kayode
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 6:48 PM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Stevek
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 4:07 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imperial:"I can remember that top members of the Action Group namely : Samuel Tubosun Sonibare, Chief Alfred Rewane, Alhaji Sule Gbadamosi and Chief S O Lanlehin ( all associates of Chief Awolowo ) wercorruptly & surreptitiously granted about over £6 million pounds by the Regional government in the name of their private company called Nigerian Investment Property Company ( NIPC) ." ---- Imperial
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 8:28 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 8:28 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 8:28 PM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 5:39 AM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr Okala
On Apr 23, 2022, at 2:47 AM, Chukwuemeka Okala <reu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
"If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?" - ImperialComment:Imperial Merchant,I have just had the time to read through your put-down of the person of late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. I make bold to tell you unambiguously, that all you have stated about him are unprecedented FABRICATION that not even his worst enemy - political or emotional would believe. Knowing Papa as I do, his personal character and political sagaciousness were second to none! His vision to take his primary constituency not only forward but beyond the limits of the sky and his passion and doggedness to achieve that vision cannot be overemphasised. In a nutshell, your fabrication about him on this occasion is, to put it succinctly correctly, the height of wickedness!!On the issue of the well known Akintola's betrayal of Chief Awolowo, you can try the much you want to re-write history in favour of your principal (late Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola), but the facts are so deeply rooted in the records of history that your effort in this regard will remain a waste of your time!Late Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola as the then Premier of the Western Region cum Regional Leader of his party clearly made himself an available pawn in the hands of Sir Ahmadu Bello, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and NPC, to be used in the political power game that existed between Action Group led by Chief Awolowo at the national level and NPC led by Ahmadu Bello. And he (S L Akintola) was effectively used in that regard to the advantage of the NPC and detriment of the Action Group and Chief Awolowo. How else do you define betrayal?How can you come brazenly in the 21st century to try and turn the table upside down? Sorry, your plan won't fly! Just pocket it!Let me shock you!Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu was actually the one who betrayed Yemi Osinbajo if truth should be told. Considering that Osinbajo is the one occupying the position of the Vice President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, convention gives him a priority to fly the flag of his party at the end of their tenure (Buhari/Osinbajo), except in a situation where he is either not interested or is considered a non-performer.Note that we are not talking about who would be the president of the Yoruba nation. We are talking about who would replace PMB as the next executive President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.Tinubu is politically savvy and therefore should have known that by recommending Osinbajo as Buhari's running mate that finally made him the VP, the man (Osinbajo), as of right and protocol, has become the first most qualified candidate, indeed primus inter pares amongst those to be considered by their party to fly their party's flag for the office of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria by the expiration of their second and FINAL term.What Tinubu should have done is to honourably support Osinbajo to fly the flag of their party, if the latter showed interest in running for the job. But on the contrary, Tinubu jumped the gun and went straight to Buhari (without consulting the VP), to let him know about his intention to contest, to achieve what he called a lifetime ambition. He should have heard first from the VP - Osinbajo.Because he conscientiously and craftily jumped the gun - knowing that Osinbajo would be interested in his (Osinbajo) conventionally rightful position, he has, ipso facto, betrayed Osinbajo Big Time! Osinbajo knows it and has decided to fight for what actually belongs to him. MekaEmeka Reuben OkalaLondon, UK"Faith [Religion] and reason are not necessarily opposed. But when reason won't take you another step, faith keeps on going because it connects you to God."
On Thursday, 21 April 2022, 13:42:33 BST, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different stoked for folks !
On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:26 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.” - Victor Ogundipe, PhD
Whether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!
I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.
Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.
Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.
Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.
Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.
Cyril Anyanwu
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Subject: Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Kayusee
I shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine .
The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962.
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On 21 Apr 2022, at 15:10, Kayode Adebayo <kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Imperial:
Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.
Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial
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Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
Preamble
Few days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.
How They Met
Akintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.
He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.
The Real Issue
Let me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.
If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?
NOTE
I checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.
Victor Ogundipe, PhD
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On Apr 22, 2022, at 11:15 PM, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here come that ugly black as coal, old no GED illiterate con-man again!
Any friend this life-beached old man here?If there is, Google the college he just named (Bowie Community College) if it exists in Maryland…or anywhere in the world, for that matter…of if there is Bowie County in Maryland at all!What kind of an adult - and one old as this oaf - does stuff like this?He even spends time Googling information about me and he doesn’t even know me nor I, him!The life of an old con man must be worse than a decommissioned and abandoned old dog in a dog pound with nothing to do but look and bay at the moon and looking for company in his misery.Go get that GED, con man.I know that you have tried several times but keep trying so you’d know what the rest of us went through ti belong here.
On Friday, April 22, 2022, 2:03 PM, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:
“Stevek:
You seem to have been trained in logical reasoning, could you help me out with the below dilemma?”……..Dr Osuji.Dr Osuji, Stevek wasn’t “trained in logical reasoning”, he’s neither logical nor does he reason well. Have you read one of his gibberish mumbo jumbos?Facts:Stevek was trained like a dog at the Bowie County College (BCC two yr), as a Pesticides mixer and Fumigating personnel.It’s a crash program introduced by the liberal govt of Bowie County in Maryland, for the African-American high school dropouts.Stevek took the opportunity in both hands, and he was ahead of all dunderheads.After spending four years in a two yr college with prayers and Ekpe, Stevek eventually passed out without feinting, in crawling colors…..abi na flying colors sef.
Dr Osuji, please stop flattering Stevek.
🤣🤣🤣
Afis“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.Sent from my iPhone
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 04:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don’t buy what that guy is selling, I mean Imperial.
He’s a troublemaker.🤣No Coker Commission mentioned a fight between Awo and Akintola over booty sharing.The Coker Commission was about Western region’s holdings such as Nabani Estates which became WEMABOD, and all businesses that later morphed into Odua Investments.No crime was found to have been committed, just some goose chase by the Destroyers of Nigeria led by Sardauna of Sokoto and his lapdog Balewa.Any thinking mind knows that if there were frauds and money changing hands between Awo and associates, that would have been a legitimate excuse to jail Awo, not the trump up charges of treason.Coker Commission’s recommendations are online for anyone to read.
Imperial’s style is to go round the block looking for ANY moron that share his thoughts.Same thing he did on Russia-Ukraine war, bringing self serving opinionated piece written by a Dutch blogger, to shore up his useless support for Russia.Imperial is always on the side of Evil people, that’s his MO.You’ve to become evil before Imperial will support you.He was not on Buhari’s side until when Buhari started worshiping Satan.
Go figures!
Afis“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.Sent from my iPhone
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On 23 Apr 2022, at 15:57, Afis <odide...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Imperial <imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Afis
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 9:38 AM, Kayode Adebayo<kayu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
St. Paul alluded to this in Ephesians 5: 25-32 and 1 Corinthians 13:12.
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I, read all the books of another English writer, like Evelyn’s Underhill, while I was in Form 2 in secondary school before I became a seeking Catholic and learned all the philosophy, logic, and science thereafter in the university. It set a path for my life… knowledgewise.
Her name was Marie Corelli.
It prepared my mind to look out for and validate the extraordinary concepts she put fort in her writing, especially, in “Ardith’, ‘Temporal Power’, ‘The Sorrows of Satan’, and others. This while my mates were reading novels by James Hardley Chase and Ian Fleming.
I just saw this. I will respond to it soon.
- The fact that no one here is disputing that the Western Region government seized assets from NIPC and without being challenged then and till date is undisputed evidence that the NIPC was a private entity set up and and run with Western Region funds to allow its owners, led by Awolowo, freedom of spending decisions - bypassing the Western Region Legislature; a fact that resulted in the illegal enrichment of its conflict of interest directors - especially, Shonibare, Maja, and Rewane. While there is no proof that Awolowo, himself, directly benefited from this heist, there is no evidence that he did not do so indirectly. Okala’s puppy dog defense of everything Awolowo, even in the face of stark evidence to the contrary, is a very strange phenomenon for an Ikwerre and a man of God. (Steven kueberuwa)
Two idiots praising each other with bullshit invisible ropes the colonial masters left on their necks:Read their salutation here if it isn’t clownish.Stevek: Ha! Sir brother Sir.Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo, no knight is as big as you Sir.
Stevek: My Girlie-man my head dey swell oo. You call me Sir Knight. Haba! Only me? Ha, my rotten teeth greet you ooo.
🤣🤣🤣
Two dumb blind mice.
On Apr 22, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
“I don’t want you in my spam folder because I appreciate your thought when you aren’t aping African American teenage girls and trans women, so I am going to ensure that I didn’t accidentally block you. By the way.” - Nebukadineze Adiele************You are just a dishonest person lacking also in honor.Hence my reluctance to have further interactions with you.Cyril AnyanwuFrom: 'Afis' via ||NaijaObserver||
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION“ You and your phony knight (Stevek) Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.”………..Nebu.Hahahahaha!The two of them are clowns.Two idiots praising each other with bullshit the colonial masters left on their necks:Stevek: Sir brother Sir.Lasherif Girlie-man: oh no sir, you’re Sir Knight, olorun ngbo no knight is as big as you Sir.
Two dumb blind mice.🤣🤣🤣
Afis“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2022, at 9:13 PM, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:Lasherief of North Dallas,I didn’t see your bitchiness, you’ve likely joined the deranged ape in my spam folder. In any case, if you are poorly educated, don’t brag about it because doing so makes you seem dumb.When a PhD holder writes something and appends PhD to his name, underneath the article, he/she is conveying to the recipients of the article that it was properly researched and constitutes an expert’s position. What Ogundipe wrote is not commonly knowledge, and since he didn’t apply academic methodology in writing it, it is his personal opinion and he should not have appended his PhD underneath it. Equally, no one needs to follow or honor his hollow and dishonest demand for a “verified contrary opinion” in rejecting his piece since he lacked the academic discipline to have written in a verifiable format.You and your phony knight Kueberuwa enjoy embarrassing yourselves by uttering nonsensical tropes while thinking that you are showcasing scholarship. In your pursuit of a masters degree in architecture, did they teach you only how to draw houses? If so, rip up that certificate you needlessly posted here a few weeks ago.I don’t want you in my spam folder because I appreciate your thought when you aren’t aping African American teenage girls and trans women, so I am going to ensure that I didn’t accidentally block you. By the way. I now know from where, in Obowo, you hail. If you ever disrespect me, youngsters from there would ask you one or two questions.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Bravo, Cyril.In this place, arguments consists only of baseless condemnation by declarative proclamations.To wit, none of the arguments against the author have provided no single contrary facts that the dispute by fiat.That doesn’t mean that disagreeing is wrong or unacceptable.It means that one has to advance facts to argue against ‘facts’ that one contests.You are right that it is irrelevant whether the poster has a Ph.D or not because nothing he wrote require academic citation. Indeed, most of the critical information - except that part about Akintola ‘writing the party constitution’ is already in Wikipedia.And, as you said, no tree exists without roots. And, Awolowo, as a founding father, is part of the tap root of our country.And that includes corruption.Personally, I don’t expect any better from the contestants, so far.
On Thursday, April 21, 2022, 4:26 PM, Cyril Anyanwu <lash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
“If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.” - Victor Ogundipe, PhDWhether Citizen, Victor Ogundipe has PhD, DhP, PpC or not is immaterial and inconsequential!I have no reason not to agree with his presentation. Anybody with a “verified contrary opinion” should present it or keep quite.Corruption didn’t just grow out of the wind in Nigeria. It’s foundation was actually laid by the founding fathers cheered/egged on by our corrupt Society. Corruption is one the reasons Nzeogwu et al adduced for overthrowing the first Republic.Of course some people are ready to swear by their own lives that this is not true. Those people have no iota of verified contrary opinion but only motivated by tribalism. Those are not Citizens but primitive tribesmen.Same way people are alleging that Osibanjo as VP acquired sundry Real Estate via proxy. When confronted with the allegation, he sued the protagonists while hiding under executive immunity. That is the antic of a corrupt cowardly bully.Same way he and his cohorts were using EFCC to harass/intimidate/criminalize presidential aspirants from South-East and South-South.Cyril Anyanwu
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Subject: Re: Imperial: Stop Posting Concocted Stories On Nigerian Forums: Re: LADOKE AKINTOLA: THE MAN WHO BETRAYED CORRUPTION
A PhD holder should have referenced something; had he referenced even the Coker Commission, as you just did, no one would be doubting him.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
KayuseeI shared opinion of another person forwarded to me. The opinion expressed isn’t mine .The author might have mixed up some facts but part of his account is largely corroborated by the Coker Commission of Inquiry of 1962.
Stop posting fabricated stories on the forums. You're becoming an Amebo. You are becoming a master of innuendos. Always get your facts straight. Some of us who know the facts about the clash between Awolowo and Akintola are still alive and well. None of the fabrications in your post ever happened between Awolowo and Akintola. They were made up by the writer.Kayode
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:51 AM, Imperial<imperi...@yahoo.com> wrote:Another opinion on the Western region politics . Hmmm different strokes for different folks !
PreambleFew days ago, when Professor Yemi Osinbajo made his presidential ambition known publicly, some people began to call him names. The worst of it all was comparing him with Chief Samuel Ladoke Akintola, a political associate of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. They claimed Osinbajo betrayed his political godfather just as Akintola betrayed his boss, Awolowo. I have been hearing this claim since I grew up to understand issues of life. However, as I grew up to study in the area of history, my curiosity pushed me to research into the lives of the two great men involved, Akintola and Awolowo. For the purpose of clarity on the issue of betrayal between the two, I will present to you my findings.How They MetAkintola started his career as a teacher in a Baptist School. He left the School in order not to become a betrayer. How? He was the one who spearheaded a protest against the poor treatment of the Nigerian Tutors who were in the school. The Whites could not swallow such "insolence", so they dismissed the Tutors involved but retained Akintola who himself was at the center of the issue. They did that because he was brilliant and influential among the parents. Moreover, there was no replacement for the subject he was taking. They increased his salary and emoluments. BUT HE RESIGNED immediately in order to stand with his friends who were dismissed. That was the beginning of his freedom fighting.He then left the School for an offer with a Newspaper House. He began to use the opportunity he got there to voice out his opinions on Nigeria Independence. He was gaining more fame in his new job. He then went for further studies abroad knowing fully well that he would not be able to fight the Colonial Masters unless he studied well. He became a lawyer. It was his boldness and prowess in journalism that endeared him to Awolowo. They both became freedom fighters and they brought several like-minded people together to form a civil organization for the Yorubas. Later, as a requirement for gaining Independence, political parties must be formed. As at that time, people like Nnamdi Azikiwe and others from the East were also active in fighting for Independence. Only the Northerners were not ready for the Independence. So, Akintola, Awolowo, and other well meaning Yorubas formed a political party. It was Akintola who was saddled with the responsibility of writing the Constitution for the party while Awolowo was made the party leader.The Real IssueLet me spare some political stories of the competency of both eminent leaders. Awolowo became the Western Premier but the death of his deputy brought Akintola to that office. Later, Awolowo was aspiring to become the Head of the Central Government. Due to some laxities, he lost but he needed to stay in Lagos, the then seat of power to form opposition government. Akintola had earlier being handed over to as the Western Premier. He was working assiduously for the betterment of the Westerners. PROBLEM BEGAN when he discovered some funds were not remitted to the purse of the Western Government. He went ahead to block them. He discovered some Party members were collecting loans from the Government without repayment. He stopped that as well. HE NEVER KNEW that the said tax on beverages was being paid directly to the account of the wife of his predecessor. When Awolowo came back from Lagos to Ibadan, he summoned Akintola three times in a night and he went the three times. Awolowo was furious that Akintola blocked the payment of the tax on beverages to Mama's account (Awolowo's wife). He was also furious that Akintola blocked the loans being taken by the party loyalists but were never paid. When Akintola complained that they were not paying back the loans, Awolowo said that is the benefit they get as party loyalists. Akintola then said Awolowo as an elder should have told him the details of those things earlier being his former deputy. Awolowo commanded that he should go and restore those benefits. Akintola simply replied that such action would lead to paucity of funds on the side of the Government. AWOLOWO ASKED HIM TO RESIGN with immediate effect. In essence, AWOLOWO WANTED TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT even though he has ceased being the Premier. The prominent Yoruba Kings held a meeting with them to settle the issue. They asked Akintola to prostrate and begged Awolowo. He did, but Awolowo insisted he must vacate the Premier Seat, and walked out on the prominent Yoruba Kings. That was when Akintola rose to say would Awolowo turn himself to God. The Kings were unhappy with the situation as they left. That was the beginning of the political problem in the Western Region even till now.If I may ask WHERE IS THE BETRAYAL BEING TALKED ABOUT? WHO IS THE BETRAYER? If you call Akintola a betrayer, then HE BETRAYED CORRUPTION. He fought for the Masses. He would not support public funds to be diverted. IS HE A BETRAYER?NOTEI checked my facts with many sources both written documents and oral narrations before I wrote. The sources are mostly from outside Ogbomosho, the Hometown of Akintola. If you know A VERIFIED contrary opinion, please I am open to further learning. I wrote this to clear the air on the wrong impression being carried around. Make your comments meaningfully and in a civilized manner. Thank so much.Victor Ogundipe, PhD
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On 22 Apr 2022, at 22:51, Stevek <stev...@yahoo.com> wrote:
“That's a lie. The Cocoa House was established by Awolowo and it was funded with proceeds from sales sales of Cocoa in the Western Region.”