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Femi Olajide of Dockland,
You repeated your message at least 10 times, that shows that yo were either drinking or rattled by mischievousness. It is a trait of criminality to assert that facts exist n a fraud; you can add a hundred zero, they will always equal a zero. If you going to reason this stupidly and childishly, I consign you to my spam folder, I have no time for childishness of this sort.
I thought you were a graceful person who would have recognized his error and expatiated, not an unconscionable urchin who would brazenly turn logic upside down by asking me to look at the facts in a fraud. That is the most illogical thing I have read on these forums in years; no properly educated, reasonable, or honest person would comment on a fraudulent hate speech or see any fact in it. Frankly, I am becoming more convinced that there are multiple people using the Olajide email address -- one person is smart, honest, and polite, while the other/others is/are the opposite.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 08:31:23 AM CDT, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Femi Olajide of Dockland,
You repeated your message at least 10 times, that shows that yo were either drinking or rattled by mischievousness. It is a trait of criminality to assert that facts exist n a fraud; you can add a hundred zero, they will always equal a zero. If you going to reason this stupidly and childishly, I consign you to my spam folder, I have no time for childishness of this sort.
I thought you were a graceful person who would have recognized his error and expatiated, not an unconscionable urchin who would brazenly turn logic upside down by asking me to look at the facts in a fraud. That is the most illogical thing I have read on these forums in years; no properly educated, reasonable, or honest person would comment on a fraudulent hate speech or see any fact in it. Frankly, I am becoming more convinced that there are multiple people using the Olajide email address -- one person is smart, honest, and polite, while the other/others is/are the opposite.
Nebukadineze
Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 05:37:33 AM EDT, femi Olajide <olajid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
,
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
Nebu,
Are you Ok at all?
Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.
Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.
The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.
Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
On Sunday, 28 May 2023, 07:53:05 GMT+1, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.
The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.
I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:
Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitationBy Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”
To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 09:43:14 PM EDT, 'femi Olajide' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Joseph Chuks,
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
On Saturday, 27 May 2023, 14:51:16 GMT+1, JOSEPH CHUKS <westhood...@gmail.com> wrote:
Former president Goodluck Jonathan has on many occasions angrily denied ever authoring such idiotioc childish gibberish drivel, Jonathan and his kinsmen are no fools not to know that this is the handwork of the same very antagonistic haters that ganged up to deny him his second term in office.
And the earlier Igbos and indeed the entire old Eastern region realize that the north is actually not our problem but the Yorubas the better for all of us, they have once again deceived the South South, South East, and even the Middlebelt with POWER MUST SHIFT TO THE SOUTH nonsense and we foolishly threw the dirty water with the baby, they are now mocking and insulting our collective sensibilities, Nigeria belongs to all of us, it is either we wisely join hands to develop it for future generations or we foolishly join hands to destroy it to the everlasting shame of the black race, but make no mistake about this, no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.
Arrant nonsense
Joe Jideofor
,
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:32 PM 'Adeniran Adeboye' via Corporate Nigeria <corporat...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA
By H.E Goodluck Jonathan
Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.
Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.
3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals.
H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*
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On Sunday, 28 May 2023, 07:53:05 GMT+1, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.
The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.
I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:
Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitationBy Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”
To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 09:43:14 PM EDT, 'femi Olajide' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Joseph Chuks,
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
On Saturday, 27 May 2023, 14:51:16 GMT+1, JOSEPH CHUKS <westhood...@gmail.com> wrote:
Former president Goodluck Jonathan has on many occasions angrily denied ever authoring such idiotioc childish gibberish drivel, Jonathan and his kinsmen are no fools not to know that this is the handwork of the same very antagonistic haters that ganged up to deny him his second term in office.
And the earlier Igbos and indeed the entire old Eastern region realize that the north is actually not our problem but the Yorubas the better for all of us, they have once again deceived the South South, South East, and even the Middlebelt with POWER MUST SHIFT TO THE SOUTH nonsense and we foolishly threw the dirty water with the baby, they are now mocking and insulting our collective sensibilities, Nigeria belongs to all of us, it is either we wisely join hands to develop it for future generations or we foolishly join hands to destroy it to the everlasting shame of the black race, but make no mistake about this, no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.
Arrant nonsense
Joe Jideofor
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On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:32 PM 'Adeniran Adeboye' via Corporate Nigeria <corporat...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA
By H.E Goodluck Jonathan
Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.
Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.
3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals.
H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*
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On Sunday, 28 May 2023, 07:53:05 GMT+1, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.
The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.
I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:
Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitationBy Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”
To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 09:43:14 PM EDT, 'femi Olajide' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Joseph Chuks,
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
On Saturday, 27 May 2023, 14:51:16 GMT+1, JOSEPH CHUKS <westhood...@gmail.com> wrote:
Former president Goodluck Jonathan has on many occasions angrily denied ever authoring such idiotioc childish gibberish drivel, Jonathan and his kinsmen are no fools not to know that this is the handwork of the same very antagonistic haters that ganged up to deny him his second term in office.
And the earlier Igbos and indeed the entire old Eastern region realize that the north is actually not our problem but the Yorubas the better for all of us, they have once again deceived the South South, South East, and even the Middlebelt with POWER MUST SHIFT TO THE SOUTH nonsense and we foolishly threw the dirty water with the baby, they are now mocking and insulting our collective sensibilities, Nigeria belongs to all of us, it is either we wisely join hands to develop it for future generations or we foolishly join hands to destroy it to the everlasting shame of the black race, but make no mistake about this, no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.
Arrant nonsense
Joe Jideofor
,
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:32 PM 'Adeniran Adeboye' via Corporate Nigeria <corporat...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA
By H.E Goodluck Jonathan
Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.
Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.
3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals.
H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*
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On Sunday, 28 May 2023, 07:53:05 GMT+1, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:
Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.
The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.
I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:
Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitationBy Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”
To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.
Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.
Organized religion sired irrationality.
On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 09:43:14 PM EDT, 'femi Olajide' via ||NaijaObserver|| <naijao...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Joseph Chuks,
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.
All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.
It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.
Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.
Regards,
Femi Olajide
On Saturday, 27 May 2023, 14:51:16 GMT+1, JOSEPH CHUKS <westhood...@gmail.com> wrote:
Former president Goodluck Jonathan has on many occasions angrily denied ever authoring such idiotioc childish gibberish drivel, Jonathan and his kinsmen are no fools not to know that this is the handwork of the same very antagonistic haters that ganged up to deny him his second term in office.
And the earlier Igbos and indeed the entire old Eastern region realize that the north is actually not our problem but the Yorubas the better for all of us, they have once again deceived the South South, South East, and even the Middlebelt with POWER MUST SHIFT TO THE SOUTH nonsense and we foolishly threw the dirty water with the baby, they are now mocking and insulting our collective sensibilities, Nigeria belongs to all of us, it is either we wisely join hands to develop it for future generations or we foolishly join hands to destroy it to the everlasting shame of the black race, but make no mistake about this, no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.
Arrant nonsense
Joe Jideofor
,
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:32 PM 'Adeniran Adeboye' via Corporate Nigeria <corporat...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA
By H.E Goodluck Jonathan
Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.
I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.
When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.
Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.
Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.
1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?
2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.
3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?
4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.
5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.
6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.
7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.
8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.
9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.
10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?
Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals.
H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*
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