FW: Re: [Nahar8towersresidentsassociation] Pets or Stray.. It seems pet, just have a look

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Santosh Rane

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May 17, 2015, 2:15:18 PM5/17/15
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Please read and understand... While we can be arrogant with law on our side.  The heat regarding strays and pet owners is just rising.

Residents have concern and I feel we have to address it.

Your views please....

Warm Regards
Santosh Rane



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Subject: Re: [Nahar8towersresidentsassociation] Pets or Stray.. It seems pet, just have a look
Sent: May 17, 2015 11:32 PM
From: "Vaibhav Kabra vaibha...@yahoo.com [Nahar8towersresidentsassociation]" <Nahar8towersresi...@yahoogroups.co.in>
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This is sad. It seems that after Nahar builder, we have our own neighbours who will hold us to ransom.

Last night, I was taking a walk along with my wife. We were returning from Mimosa side towards Ivy Iris. Suddenly two stray dogs came running and barking from the Stilt parking area. Both of us stood in freeze state. A security guard had to make the dogs go away. My wife is expecting.

Santosh - as an animal lover your had written a long mail with various regulations. Sorry to state you were only terrifying the residents. The prior mail chains were on the menace being created by the stray animals and also the photographs indicate that pet owners would like to have unrestricted access to all the society areas including podium and leave the pee and poo droppings behind. 

Firstly  I do not remember any mail which indicated an objection to pets but on the pet lovers selective manner of deciding what they want to do. If a pet lover is so much in love with the pets, why dont they get them pee and poo inside the house. Why as pet lover you want to have the animal pee-poo in public.

Lets get it simple. The various documents you shared only relate to a pet lovers desire to keep a pet and the neighbour to respect that. However, all the rights of the pet and pet lovers end where the individual resident members right starts ..... and the physical boundry line is the tip of each individual nose.

I understand from the Utlity team that the Pet lovers have raised objection to stray dogs being removed from the complex. I am sorry  but this is a private property. No where I have heard that stray dogs on the road need to be housed inside the society complexes.

In case you and the Pet lovers till do not understand, then suggest that you once again watch the moive 'Pa' where an attempt to get building constructed for slum dwellers is incorrectly reported by the media. Subsequently you have Abhishek bachhan getting al slum dwellers enter the residences of these individual reporters and show how they would react. In our complex, Pet lovers are behaving exactly like to the media reporters.

In case Pet Lovers association has not objected to the removal of stray dogs from the society, please have a written confirmation submitted to the Utility office. Also if the Pet lovers association cannot have a discipline among all pet owners, they wind up this so called association. Also Stop this shit all around the complex.

Your passion for animal life is becoming a threat to human life.



On Sunday, 17 May 2015 7:58 AM, "Kingshuk Ghosh kingshu...@gmail.com [Nahar8towersresidentsassociation]" <Nahar8towersresi...@yahoogroups.co.in> wrote:


 
Hi. .can't see the pictures...please upload a higher resolution magnified image.
How do you know they are searching to pee n poop?
Also was there no body with the animals ?..even at a distance?   . ..i am not using the word "pets" since that does not seen to be established from the photographs
"Wild" one taking the referred to animals on a bio need mission seems highly unlikely....Generally, animals are territorial and will fight unless "family"
On 16 May 2015 21:56, "pranav desai prana...@hotmail.com [Nahar8towersresidentsassociation]" <Nahar8towersresi...@yahoogroups.co.in> wrote:
 
Please have a look at these 2 photos clicked just now, from my balcony.. There are 2 pets searching to pee & poo, i also see a wild one, who is taking these pets at podium lawn..


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Smita Singh

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May 17, 2015, 3:27:51 PM5/17/15
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Firstly, a big congratulation to the resident who is expecting:)


Secondly, what is written in the law is not against or for any group of people. It has a rational, a logic to it. Please understand there is a very good reason why in our constitution it is a duty for citizens to take care of stray animals.


“There is scientific thought behind restoring a sterilized dog to his original habitat. Dogs are territorial animals. They mark out their territories based on the food available and they do not let outsiders come in. When these local dogs are removed from their territory, other dogs move in to occupy them. These may not be sterilized so the problem continues for that locality. Dog fights increase as any new dog entering a territory is attacked by the dogs already in that area and non-sterilized dogs continue to mate and produce litters. Rabies continues to spread as none of the dogs in that area are vaccinated against it. The new dogs are hostile to the residents so problems of safety continue. A sterilized and vaccinated dog doesn’t breed, they guard their territory from intruders and new dogs, and they become docile and don’t fight with other dogs during the mating season.”


PLEASE UNDERSTAND

“Dislocation of street dogs has time and again proven to be counter-productive and only favours the entry of other non-sterilized street dogs into the area, which will not only be unknown to you but also to those who tend to the area’s street dogs, thus raising more cases of man-animal conflict.”


For more on the same please see this link. http://jaagruti.org/information-to-empower-you/indian-street-dogs-and-their-rights/


Lastly, I own a pet. And I always feel guilty for not doing enough for those Indian dogs who perhaps need the care and shelter more than the dog I have adopted. A lot of our generous neighbours have taken it upon them to feed, medicate and love these abandoned creatures. I salute them for taking on a compassionate position so passionately that most of us find no time for or are paralysed by our own prejudices and misinformation.


My father was an army officer. Having a pedigree dog in those days was a very common thing for officers and their families. But one day when I was very young, I took in a stray dog after our own pedigree pet got lost. He was cute when he was small, but soon he grew into what a stray dog looks like- not very pretty by the standards we have. Indian is so not cool. So when we had parties, with officers and their families coming in, they would shriek and scream when the Indian dog approached them wagging its tail. The same families who would pet a white pom, a small apso would shriek and run away like he was some kind of wild animal.


My father, out of concern for his status perhaps, gave him away to a man in the cantonment. Just handed him out.


He returned, 4 months later. A rope tied to his neck, his skin around it bleeding and torn. He had come back the whole day hungry and weak to visit his family that had instead chosen to abandon him because the guests in the colony thought he was wild looking and not a ‘pet’.


You have seen the practical, scientific side of caring for these creatures. The other more emotional side would appeal to you to let go of prejudice, to inform yourself and acknowledge that the world over, how a society treats it’s abandoned is a measure of its compassion, its empathy. An understanding and knowledgeable society is the only one worth welcoming our future generations to.


I hope we shall not see each other on the opposite side of the fence and look at caring for each other’s concern in a more trusting manner.  


Regards

Smita

 


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1: Please register your dog with BMC
2: Please put your dog on leash at all times when in society premises
3: If our pet by chance poops in society premises, please clean the mess with a old news paper and dispose the same in the wastebin.
 
Lets maintain a clean and healthy enviornment for both pets and people around.
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Santosh Rane

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May 18, 2015, 12:43:43 AM5/18/15
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Guys we are missing the point

We pet owners are careless... Leaving pups dogs without leash in the podium and other walking areas.

Pet dogs pooping and peeing on the grass and in open areas. Residents concern is valid.

And in the crossfire the strays are also highlighted.

We all in this group are aware and in our own capacity and time are doing work and contributions towards stray health.

We educated pet owners need to stop messing the premises..

Walk the dog outside.. Pick the poop..let the dog pee and then get it up on podium and other walking areas... It's not difficult.

Either we live in harmony or just don't care about others and their concern.

Then you can vaccinate 10 strays, show care towards their health,  but if u have no correction to wrong doing that's a concern to majority residents.. Then we are just fooling ourselves here.

All they are asking is for a clean surrounding... Is this hard???

Warm Regards
Santosh Rane



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Smita Singh

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May 18, 2015, 5:47:01 AM5/18/15
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Hi there.
I absolutely agree that no one should leave pet's poop lying around. No one here says that. In fact I always take my dog out of Nahar premise and then inside for a walk.

But from what i read, they are pointing out to dogs even looking around in the grass, taking pictures of pets on lawns.

Dr. Sunmeet Banerjee

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May 18, 2015, 6:30:23 AM5/18/15
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I too take my dog out of premises every morning and evening. Not even once has my pet peed or pooped inside our complex.

If someone is allowing their pets to pee and poop inside Nahar premises, then I guess others have a right to complain/protest.

Taking dog without leash and letting them go wild in lawn/public is also No No.

We as pet owners have to take this basic responsibility.

Regarding strays, there are one too many now. Nahar has become a hub for strays which is a debatable issue.
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