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Scannedin a few elite trainer box card codes. redeemed them successfully but it didnt let me open anything and i cant find anything in TCG Live or any help on where the rewards for redeeming went to. Please help!

Hi - am pretty new to using TrainerRoad, I noticed that there is a wheel circumference setting. I have an Elite Direto trainer, which is a direct drive model - does the value of the wheel circumference setting matter at all in this case and, if so, what should it be?

I have an Elite Drivo. ( no power match). Connecting by Bluetooth to an ipad I used to see distances/ speed recorded in an hour of say 125 km p h. It did not seem to change with changing the circumference number up or down. After one of the more recents updates to TR. I now get zero distance/ speed when synced to Garmin.

Well, I had a Direto for some time and there 173 was the way to go. However, as you say it may also depend on the application you are using. I can remember that I went with GoldenCheetah for some of the first sessions. TrainerRoad may calculate things differently, after all training with TrainerRoad is more about power and ridefeel than it is about miles.

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I thot i would invest in pokemon trainer boxes and this one is gonna be released soo i dont know if i should buy some or dont (first time doing this soo if you could tell me something about this i would be very happy and if you could explein why its worth or not worth buying)

This trainer, like many others, estimates cadence by looking at power pulses as you pedal, two power pulses (usually due to the left and right pedal) is interpreted as one crank revolution. This isn't very reliable and depends on how you are pedaling. A separate cadence sensor that directly senses crank rotations will be much better, particularly with rapid cadence changes and pedaling at high cadence with low resistance. If you are having problems with the cadence being reported under normal pedaling against resistance, it'd probably be best to contact Elite.

for what it is worth I have the same setup (820 and Direto) and do not have either a speed or cadence issue. The one thing I did do was download the Elite app for my phone, and setup the device from there. I don't know if that matters, but I get cadence that seems about right, and speed that is in the ballpark. (But speed seems to still be a bit low. I think it bases itself on cadence and does not take power into account.

But in reality, the most notable thing about the Tuo is actually the road-feel. Wheel-on trainers have a well-deserved reputation for having poor road-like feel. However, last year when I first tried this on a trade-show floor I was blown away by how good it felt. To the point I questioned if perhaps trade-show lack of sleep was contributing. However, after a few other industry folks I know that also jumped on it for a few seconds confirmed my thoughts, I was then eager to try it out in real-life with my own bike (and side by side to others).

Now, since my initial setup feedback a month ago when I did this the first time, Elite has worked to put together a quick setup video on YouTube, and is also updating their written instructions to make it less confusing.

There are some key steps to getting the Elite Toaster to work consistently from a power accuracy standpoint. Aside from pumping up your tire, in my experience the rest of the steps only need to be done once a month or so.

In my testing on Zwift, at 100% trainer difficulty, with numerous climbs just under 10%, it felt fine, and the resistance correctly smoothly applied while going through the rollers on the Titans Grove course.

For me, in my testing, I used Zwift and TrainerRoad as my two main apps (which are the two main apps I use personally). In the case of Zwift, I used it in regular riding mode (non-workout mode, aka SIM mode) as well as ERG mode (workout mode). Whereas in the case of TrainerRoad I used it in a structured workout mode (ERG mode). I dig into the nuances of these both within the power accuracy section.

Finally, Elite does have their own app that you can use for a handful of functions, but frankly I had no use for it here at any point in the testing cycle. And technically, there are two apps here. The first is their Elite My E-Training app, from which you can do calibrations:

For this section I was constantly oscillating. I believe I had joined up with one of the Zwift Pacer bots, and you can see the rubber-banding as you go in/out of the draft zone. But the Tuo is doing a pretty damn impressive job of holding the wattage accuracy here.

(Note: All of the charts in these accuracy sections were created using the DCR Analyzer tool. It allows you to compare power meters/trainers, heart rate, cadence, speed/pace, GPS tracks and plenty more. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.)

I use Apple TV for Zwift the vast majority of the time, but also just for watching YouTube/Netflix/etc on the trainer. The Apple TV remote sucks though. This $8 case fixes that, it's a silicone strap that makes it easy to grab, but also has a strap to easily place on the edge of your handlebars. Boom! Note: Not compatible with 2021 Apple TV Edition.

Here's the thing, some people like front wheel blocks, some don't. I'm one of the ones that do. I like my front wheel to stay put and not aimlessly wiggle around. For $8, this solves that problem. Note some trainers do come with them. Also note, I use a riser block with *every* trainer.

I've got three of these $12 fans floating around the DCR Cave, and I frequently use them on rides. They work just fine. Sure, they're not as powerful as a Wahoo Headwind, but I could literally buy 20 of them for the same price.

This desk is both a knock-off of the original KICKR Desk, but yet also better than it. First, it's got wheel locks (so the darn thing stays put), and second, it has two water bottle holders (also useful for putting other things like remotes). I've been using it as my main trainer desk for a long time now and love it. Cheaper is better apparently. Note: Branding varies by country, exact same desk.

This is by far the best value in trainer desks, at only $59, but with most of the features of the higher end features. It's got multi-tier tablet slots, water bottle holders, non-stick surface, adjustable height and more. I'm loving it!

One of the most popular trainer fans out there, rivaling the Wahoo Headwind fan in strength but at a fraction of the price. It doesn't have smartphone/ANT+/Bluetooth integration, but it does have secondary outlets. I've been using it, and a similiar European version lately with great success (exact EU variant I use is automatically linked at left).

Had exactly the same setup issues, got there in the end though!

Definitely enjoying the road feel.

Seem to be having a LOT of dropouts on ANT+ but not on BT) though compared to the Tacx Vortex it is replacing. Did you see anything similar?

On my Tuo, I made sure I had the latest firmware update by using the Upgrado app. I did ride the Tuo before I did anything and the firmware update made the biggest improvement on response to gradient changes.

Hi Tito,

It seemed to work for mine OK but it was the firmware update that made the biggest difference. It rides really good and performs better than my old Elite Novo which was a pig to calibrate. I entered the P1,P2, P3 values myself for the Novo on the myETraining app, which you can for that trainer.

But the big fat flipper for attachment on this Tuo trainer makes me think this toaster might be good for her. So, can you comment just a smidgen more about the wheel attachment flipper lever strength / difficulty?

Did the Girl get her toaster back?

No mention of using a trainer tyre to reduce noise?

Installation looks similar to other wheel on trainers.

Any reason the wheel is not in the centre of the roller?

Cubo Power Fluid is silent, really but there is no intertia so a few seconds after you stop pedaling the wheel stops and you have to put sometimes a lot of efforts to start again as the resistance depends on wheel speed only. So if you are on 5214 on Zwift for instance and want to start spinning again you have to put a lot more work than on trainer with the flywheel. Running on Power Fluid is like instant uphill .

Hello, thank you very much for this extensive test. I am currently thinking about buying a Wheel on Trainer. Before I read this test I was thinking about the Tacx Flow Smart Trainer. Which trainer would you choose, the Tacx or the Elite Tuo?

I was thinking of a direct drive trainer but will it be much better? I have owned/tested many direct drive trainers (over 3 years ago though) and the Tuo is the best. I have the option to buy a Saris H3 or Tacx Neo but will they be that much better?

Hi Ray, thanks for the review! Did you get a chance to compare road feel side by side with the Kickr SNAP 2017? You are in the unique position to try them side by side and let us know if there is a clear road feel winner or if they are about the same, and if they are significantly different feeling than a budget wheel-off trainer. Thanks!

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