Info about Assistant Managers needed

[Sekhar Rayaprolu]

Dear All,

I was selected as Assistant Manager for NABARD in 2010 along with you
people, but could not join as I was pursuing my course in Rural
Management at IRMA due to finish by March 2012.

In the mean time I asked HR of NABARD to extend my date of joining
till April 2012 which after much furor they agreed to. And I am
pending to join by 1st of April 2012 in Lucknow.

I am interested in joining a Government organisation and hence I
applied for NABARD. But being in IRMA, I would get campus placements
in some government organisations (Like SERP, CRD, ITDA of Government
of Andra Pradesh....and I am a native of Andhra Pradesh). I have to
make a choice whether to join NABARD or to take up placements at IRMA.
So I needed some help from my fellow Managers in NABARD. Kindly help
me in below questions:

1) What is the typical work profile of an AM in NABARD?
2) How is the work culture in ROs at NABARD?
3) Office Timings?
4) In hand salary? (Very important as I have to pay back my education loan)
5) Allowances other than Salary?
6) Chance of getting posting in Hyderabad?
7) Any other advice to help me make a decision..welcome!!

I hope you guys will help in in making a rational decision. Please
reply to me personally if you do not wish to reply to all.

Thanks,
Sekhar Rayaprolu,
Institute of Rural Management, Anand (IRMA),
Gujarat

[Jnani Jitendra Bhoi]

Ask to your batch mate or seniors in IRMA like govind, raveesh, neha,
aporna and others who have similar back ground as of you.
The organisation you have mentioned are pan India NGOs and all of them
are doing some or other assignment with NABARD.
so take a rational decession and choose by your interest ...not by
others opinion.
Jitendra Bhoi
lucknow

--
Sent from my mobile device

[sachin patidar]

Well as per work culture.....purely bureaucatic...nobody wants to take decision....all work should be done by asst manager only......purely clerical work...making notes and all that....any deptt can be allotted to u....not as per ur qalification...

 

9.30 to 5.30..5 days a week....sat sun off...

 

30600 pm h par 26000 pm aati h inhand....allowances quarterly milte h around 22000 p.q.

 

If u a native of AP then forget Hyd....for atleast first 7 years.......

 

CTC is 8.8 LPA.......

 

now u decide....what other choices u r having in ur hand.....

 

1) What is the typical work profile of an AM in NABARD?
2) How is the work culture in ROs at NABARD?
3) Office Timings?
4) In hand salary? (Very important as I have to pay back my education loan)
5) Allowances other than Salary?
6) Chance of getting posting in Hyderabad?
7) Any other advice to help me make a decision..welcome!!

I hope you guys will help in in making a rational decision. Please
reply to me personally if you do not wish to reply to all.

Thanks,
Sekhar Rayaprolu,
Institute of Rural Management, Anand (IRMA),
Gujarat

--
Sachin Patidar,

Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),

DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

NABARD,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

Shimla

+918091959154,

+918099037276.

.

[manish manda]

Dear Sekhar

Glad to read ur mail. Regarding ur query, i feel that it is as per ur interest since a person can analyse himself better than anyone else but still i would suggest u to join NABARD bcoz many fellow colleagues working with reputed NGOs left them and joined NABARd. If picture would have been so rosy there, they would not have left those NGOs. Remember everything that a cow gives is not butter. As far as clerical work is concerned, u go to any organisation, u cant expect that they will give u decision making powers staraightway. Its a part of moulding work. unless u do clerical work, how u would be able to understand the basics? i feel that Salary and perks in NABARD are better than NGOs (not all) i cant comment on it much as i have never worked with any NGO. Rest details are as per the facts shared by my friends with u.  Always go by ur senses. May God help u in choosing right direction.take care. bye

Manish Manda

AM (RDBS), ICD, NABARD,

Tamil Nadu Regional Office, Chennai

9445319841

--

Manish Manda
Assistant Manager Grade 'A' (Rural Development Banking Services- General),
National bank for Agriculture & Rural Development (NABARD),

Tamil Nadu Regional Office, Chennai
manis...@gmail.com
contacts: 0291-2440450
             +91-9445319841
 !!..All activities we are doing in the Life are part of the process of Discovering the SELF ..!!

[Dheerendra Kori]

thank you sachin for speaking truth   hw lucky u r dear sekhar   If u want to become permanant clerk,nothing for good, sumthing like dead man and most inportantly u want make fool urself then please come here.t is an amazing oraganisation where there is no value of ur education, a typical drama of doing work, obviously unimportant work ....................a sinecure organisation about salary ..............this is best in the industry for doing nothing productive bt dear in the market the value of work is more.   regarding posting and promotion forget AP which is ur native place and if u  want to promotion its  better to join as clerk......................... this is wonderful organisation   ((abhi dekhna dher sare comment aate hai,sach bolne ke against main)) --- On Tue, 13/9/11, manish manda <manis...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Swatantr .]

Well done sachin

NABARD is a Unique Org. if u want to screw your career than welcome
Work experience in NABARD is not valuable to any other Organization.
We can say your market value with this experience may be NIL.( just
check job site also). Overall Branding of NABARD is maintained. it
will be better you should become agriculture officer in a commercial
bank u will like an offices with discretionary powers like an officer.

Posting may be mizo, naga,J&K,bihar, jharkhand any where but not in AP
because it is your Home State HR policy not permit this.

Siddhartha Soni

> *Sachin Patidar*,

> Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),
> DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

> *NABARD*,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,
> Shimla
> +918091959154,
> +918099037276.
> .
>

[Swatantr .]

Dear Manish,

If IAS recruited by UPSC they become Additional Collector but not
clerk in revenue department, IPS not hawaldar,so officer do officer
work NABARD is organisation if they recruiter a pilot NABARD can say
u drive a car and due to our policy we need a pilot with experience of
2 year but we dont have air craft (LOL :-)

so your words " As far as clerical work is concerned, u go to any

organisation, u cant expect that they will give u decision making powers

staraight way. Its a part of moulding work. unless u do clerical work,"

enjoy

>> *Sachin Patidar*,

>> Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),
>> DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

>> *NABARD*,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

[manish manda]

Dear Shekhar n all

Its so disheartening to see that ppl riding in a boat and complaining abt the deep waters. So why the hell they dont jump out of the boat instead of complaining. regarding working in commercial baks as agri officers or PO whatever , those making these suggestions have they worked there or r they just fresh graduates making tall claims? I woked in a regional rural bank and commercial bank bt MAN...1 thing i learned in my life that it is not the organisation which is bad, it is a bunch of ppl always keep crying n complaining. Shekhar there may be many negative energies around u, u need to penetrate them to get positive energy. I never complain against my previous organisations-RRB or commercial Bank bcoz they provided me bread n butter at a point of time n still fondly remember them. Ppl posted in nearby states r crying...I m from rajasthan and posted to Tamil Nadu...still happy..its the way u take it (Even civil servants get their home state after a certain time). I dont think its about speaking truth, its a matter of always crying and over ambititiousness.

[Swatantr .]

thank u manish being so optimistic bt u also knew the truth

On 9/13/11, manish manda <manis...@gmail.com> wrote:

[ashok chauhan]

Man!

I second Manda .

[manish manda]

Dear all

I dont want to make this group a platform of endless debate. let shekhar decide himself. Yeah swatantr, i know the truth thats why i m still here n happy.. every1 cant be IAS/IPS...what we r suggesting to shekhar is that u become IAS/IPS or u keep on waiting jobless or prefer an NGO whose ppl u can see daily waiting for us in our offices. i have seen the ground reality man. forget it.Ok enjoy. Plz dont continue the arguement.

[bhagwan rathore]

Dear Dharmendra

very true

I fully agree with you

at present work profile , one should avoid getting in NABARD ,

money is secondary.


regards

[Jnani Jitendra Bhoi]

I do agree with manish manda. I too have a no of friends and seniors
who are working with reputed NGOs or in commercial banks. Picture is
not so rosy in the ground level. Thats why ...ppl from top notch B
Schools, NITs,DSE, CA,CFA after having avg 2-3 yrs experience have
joined NABARD. Thats enough proof. From personal exp. In commercial
bank ....i can clearly differentiate both d jobs. Ny way i quote hre
...go by ur interest not by others opinion.

>> <sach.p...@gmail.com<http://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sach.p...@gmail.com>

>> *Sachin Patidar*,

>> Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),
>> DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

>> *NABARD*,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

>> Shimla
>> +918091959154,
>> +918099037276.
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Manish Manda
>> Assistant Manager Grade 'A' (Rural Development Banking Services- General),
>> National bank for Agriculture & Rural Development (NABARD),
>> Tamil Nadu Regional Office, Chennai

>> manis...@gmail.com<http://in.mc950.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=manis...@gmail.com>

>> contacts: 0291-2440450
>> +91-9445319841
>> !!..All activities we are doing in the Life are part of the process of
>> Discovering the SELF ..!!
>>
>>
>

--

[sanjeev kumar]

Dear Sekhar,

the answers of your queries are as follows:

1) What is the typical work profile of an AM in NABARD?

Telling u bluntly, except Jhaadu-Pochha (In future, may it be added to) all the works are to be carried out by AM.

2) How is the work culture in ROs at NABARD?

Get the gist of the replies of other friends

3) Office Timings?

office timing is same as governmental offices. however, there is a facility called "PCL"(Permission for coming late). I don't have much idea about it.

4) In hand salary? (Very important as I have to pay back my education loan)

Get the gist of the replies of other friends

5) Allowances other than Salary?

Get the gist of the replies of other friends

6) Chance of getting posting in Hyderabad?

in your whole career, maximum 7-10 years u can stay in AP. (depends upon situations)

7) Any other advice to help me make a decision..welcome!!

Get the gist of the replies of other friends.

[Sekhar Rayaprolu]

Dear All,

I thank everyone for their patient answers. Very insightful
suggestions provided.

For me its not only to choose between NGOs or NABARD. I want to work
in public sector and I am weighing my options between the offers I get
at IRMA(Like government of AP) and NABARD. I knew about how the job
profile is for IRMA placements through my Alumni, but I didnt know how
AMs in NABARD work...Hence this mail!

Hopefully I will come up with a right decision and hope to see you
guys in sometime.

Thanks everyone for quick response....!

Regards,
Sekhar Rayaprolu

[Dheerendra Kori]

sanjeev bilkul sahi kaha hamare yah ki policy hi aishi hai.......................... --- On Tue, 13/9/11, sanjeev kumar <sanji...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sanjeev kumar <sanji...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com

[sachin patidar]

Are quick.....man...sab bhare hue bethe h yaha.....bas es mouka chahiye nikalne ka.......Clerk niche h nahi kaam karne ko....kisi senior pe garam ho nahi sakte...saala ek number kam diya to gaya aapka 1 saal ya fir pura career..........ye ek aur sabse bada locha h jo me mention karna bhul gaya tha.....number given by your senior is one of the criteria for your promotion ...and I have seen excelllent guys waiting for at least 13 years to promote to the next grade....just because of a bad, intemperate blaw..blaw ..blaw senior.....

--
Sachin Patidar,

Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),

DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

NABARD,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

Shimla

+918091959154,

+918099037276.

.

[Vivek Bansal]

1) It will be interesting to know that how some of my friends get only "26000 pm inhand"   (i assume our deductions are - PF (Rs 1860) and 700 more for misc things. So approx Rs 2600 towards deductions and gross is approx. 30100. So, net inhand should be around Rs 27500 -- there may be Rs 200-300 regional variations. I also assume that we should not include Additional Provident Fund deduction, which is totally voluntary)

2) It will be even more interesting to know how the "CTC is 8.8 LPA"   (i assume that we should not include the Electricity Rent, Maintenance Expense etc. of our Office in our CTC. I also assume that the House Rent should be taken as Rs 9,000-10,000 pm, which is the highest we get when we take a flat on lease. otherwise, it will be tempting to assume it at even Rs 30,000pm also because of high rent in areas like Mumbai... )

Pls enlighten...

[Dheerendra Kori]

for getting promotion in nhabard u have to need sum god gifted quality like.................buttering.and many more which r understood..................u have the capability to do any kind of work with excellance............................................................it was an insult of the word "work" if people of nhabard sayibg that they are working...... ''   shekker i hope u got a lot valuable advise  --- On Wed, 14/9/11, sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com

[sachin patidar]

Well Mr Bansal, regarding CTC.....it means Cost to Company....So it includes all the things like....Air Fare for training, taxi charges, conveyance, subsidized loan (though we r not eligible for that yet), tax rebate on non-monetary perks, house rent, all other allowance like Book Grant, Annual Medical allowance, Briefcase, Spects, Even office facilities we use like Officers' lounge, Sudexo Coupons, Transportation Charges, Stay at NBSC,medical treatment from BMO as well as outside doctors,Some-other-things-which-i-dont-have-idea-of,etc, etc, etc.......Whatever is costing to NABARD for ur being in NABARD.....got the idea???

 

In NABARD Ad it wasn't mentioned but in SEBI for the similar grade & post it was there, i m attaching it for ur reference....

 

Regarding Salary so ...there are deductions like PF, Co-op Credit Society, Recovery of Winter Advance, GSLI, Medi Premium, Stay at Holifday home charges, NBOA Donation....it defers from RO to RO & person to person.....I didnt have the soft copy to attach for ur referal....sorry....i think u got the gist....
--
Sachin Patidar,

Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),

DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

NABARD,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

Shimla

+918091959154,

+918099037276.

.

[Vivek Bansal]

SEBI advt says :-

"5. REMUNERATION / BENEFITS:  

      Selected candidates would be appointed  in the Grade A scale of 11250-700(11)-18950-EB-

700(4)-21750-750(1)-22500(under revision) .Presently, total emoluments at the minimum of this 

scale are approx. (a) Rs. 22,000/- p.m. if Board’s accommodation is availed or (b) Rs. 42, 000/-, if 

Board’s accommodation is not availed.  

      The Board has an attractive scheme of  benefits including Gratuity, Leave Fare Concession, 

Conveyance Reimbursement / Vehicle Maintenance Reimbursement, Medical Facilities and 

Medical Insurance, Accident Insurance, Reimbursement for  Financial Dailies, Scheme for 

Furnishing of Residence, Reimbursement for Telephone at residence, etc.  

The CTC for the post would be Rs. 8.8 lakhs (approx) p.a. "

If we see this, then i think this "Rs. 8.8 lakhs (approx) p.a." is as per pre-revised salary. so this may have increased to a very reasonable amount... So, SEBI Grade 'A' is even more than RBI Grade 'B' at present (RBI advt says that CTC is 10 lakh for a Grade 'B' officer staying in Mumbai.. ) 

CTC is a very vague term and companies use it as per their own convenience. I have included all the components in my calculation that you have mentioned. (except Air Fare for training and room charges for Stay at NBSC). I have tried to calculate it as per the pattern of MNCs like - American Express, Bank of America, etc.

As per my calculation, it is addition of all the following components:

1) 6 lakh  (including furniture, child allowance, average approximate Halting Allowance for trainings/tours that our batch will get, tax rebate on non-monetary perks, all other allowance like Book Grant, Annual Medical allowance, Briefcase, Spects, Sudexo Coupons, all quarterly allowance like car petrol,newspaper, telephone, servant etc etc etc....)

2) Leased Accomodation/Quarters = Rs 1.10 lakh

3) Subsidised Loans

4) Pension and Gratuity

5) BMO's Medical Expenses/reimbursement (except fixed Annual Medical allowance) - I wish that hum sabko ko iski jayada zaroorat na pade...

So, the figure of Rs 8.8 lakh may be correct. Actual CTC will be very close to this figure. I am not debating on this figure. But i just wanted to know the details behind this Rs 8.8 lakh figure..

Best Regards...

[Jnani Jitendra Bhoi]

I  agree with Vivek's Statement "CTC is a very vague term and companies use it as per their own convenience". As per as  NABARD, RBI and SEBI are concerned, these organisations dont inculde Air fare, Medical reimbursement and pension component while calculating CTC,where as commercial rent of  housing accomodation at prime locations of the capital city, monetary and non-monetary perks provided to officers are included. If we add the monetary equivalent of the three  items mentioned above CTC will be much more than quoted 8.8 lakhs and is subject to variance from person to person and place to place as we dont have any control in the fluctuation of  market prices of  these things.

Moreover, We should not blame any organization for its inefficiency.Those who have some idea about the function of different govt.organisations and undertakings  they will be agree with the fact that, Discripencies exist in one or another form in all the organisation whcih eventually becomes a practice. That depends upon top executives administrative control over the organization and Management practices of present BODs. So it is again subject to change with the change in leadership. The same short of story , we listen when we talk with the people from other comparable organisation like RBI, SEBI , EXIM bank, SIDBI etc.

 

Perhaps we dont regret joining NABARD as all will agree about their fairer satisfaction level compared to previous organisation.Those who have joined fresh , I can not comment about them. Moreover, gradually this organisation becomes a lunching pad for the people who aims for better services like UPSC/ RBI only. 

 

Sekhar, Now u can read the book and decide yourself what to do.

 

Thanks 

J J BHOI -Lucknow 

[sachin patidar]

If one is complacent & can flow with the organisation ......the ogranisation is going to rot like anything.....if we are not going to change the practices, rules, regulation...org will remain the way it is......then again we will have to hire BCG( or firms like that) for repositioning exercise....and spent lakhs of rupees.....

 

The Organisation is just a skeleton without the human resource.....and if that HR is complacent, inefficient, Change averse, outdated, .....that skeleton will remain like that.....or worse it will rot..........

 

Be a REBEL..........

 

Have a fire within & give some fire to your wings.......

[himanshu shekhar]

HR is wierd and screwd here.for ur rights u have 2 fight always.

u cant get anything even if u deserve here.i had to fight for months before i got Jaiib increment.even in genuine cases they dont consider your transfer request.

But at the same time they can throw u two any place ....while posting us they followed the following algorithm(because no logic satisfies the basis of posting)...

akkar bakkar bombay bo

assi nabbe pure sau

sau me laga dhaga

chor nikal ke bhaga....

and thus they decided which guy which state.......

NOM

bt we need 2 do sth...may be wage a war

[Gurvinder Singh Ahuja]

आप सब लोगों को मेरी ओर से हिंदी दिवस की शुभकामनाएं!!

शेखर जी.... उम्मीद है कि मेल लिखने से पहले आप जितना कन्फ्यूज़ थे, अभी उस से ज्यादा न हो गए हों....

सब कुछ सापेक्ष है..!!

:-)

[manish manda]

Hi all

It was nice to read the clarity of thoughts of Jnani Jitendra Bhoi. The main key to happiness is to be satisfied wherever we are and simultaneously keep trying for the best. Ultimately it was our own decision to leave the previous organisation and join NABARD. when we were outside NABARD, we were desperate for it and today finding faults with NABARD within just 7 months of service does not make any point. Then the question arises which organisation is perfect??? We can clap on Rang de basanti's dialogue " koi bhi desh (organisation) perfect nhi hota " bt when it comes to implementation, we forget everything....U know what is the problem...new ideas just come as fashion to us, do not stay forever n never rightly implemented.

Manish Manda

--

Manish Manda
Assistant Manager Grade 'A' (Rural Development Banking Services- General),
National bank for Agriculture & Rural Development (NABARD),

Tamil Nadu Regional Office, Chennai
manis...@gmail.com

[himanshu shekhar]

manda "nabardbhkt" bas kar bhai......maan gaye nabard google se bhi badhiya hai:)

[Swatantr .]

Dear All

I think NABARD is better than Google bcoz google wants work and
productivity creativity than pay salary

here no need of Work productivity creativity and resposibility but pay
salary for being appex for nothing just kagaj Kale
karo.....................

>>>> *"5. REMUNERATION / BENEFITS: *
>>>> * Selected candidates would be appointed in the Grade A scale of
>>>> 11250-700(11)-18950-EB-*
>>>> *700(4)-21750-750(1)-22500(under revision) .Presently, total emoluments
>>>> at the minimum of this *
>>>> *scale are approx. (a) Rs. 22,000/- p.m. if Board’s accommodation is
>>>> availed or (b) Rs. 42, 000/-, if *
>>>> *Board’s accommodation is not availed. *
>>>> * The Board has an attractive scheme of benefits including
>>>> Gratuity, Leave Fare Concession, *
>>>> *Conveyance Reimbursement / Vehicle Maintenance Reimbursement, Medical
>>>> Facilities and *
>>>> *Medical Insurance, Accident Insurance, Reimbursement for Financial
>>>> Dailies, Scheme for *
>>>> *Furnishing of Residence, Reimbursement for Telephone at residence, etc.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *The CTC for the post would be Rs. 8.8 lakhs (approx) p.a. "*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> If we see this, then i think this "*Rs. 8.8 lakhs (approx) p.a." *is as

>>>> per pre-revised salary. so this may have increased to a very reasonable
>>>> amount... So, SEBI Grade 'A' is even more than RBI Grade 'B' at present
>>>> (RBI
>>>> advt says that CTC is 10 lakh for a Grade 'B' officer staying in
>>>> Mumbai.. )
>>>>

>>>> *CTC is a very vague term and companies use it as per their own
>>>> convenience.* I have included all the components in my calculation that

>>>> you have mentioned. (except Air Fare for training and room charges for
>>>> Stay
>>>> at NBSC). I have tried to calculate it as per the pattern of MNCs like -
>>>> American Express, Bank of America, etc.
>>>>
>>>> As per my calculation, it is addition of all the following components:
>>>>
>>>> 1) 6 lakh (including furniture, child allowance, average approximate
>>>> Halting Allowance for trainings/tours that our batch will get, tax
>>>> rebate on
>>>> non-monetary perks, all other allowance like Book Grant, Annual Medical
>>>> allowance, Briefcase, Spects, Sudexo Coupons, all quarterly allowance
>>>> like
>>>> car petrol,newspaper, telephone, servant etc etc etc....)
>>>> 2) Leased Accomodation/Quarters = Rs 1.10 lakh
>>>> 3) Subsidised Loans
>>>> 4) Pension and Gratuity
>>>> 5) BMO's Medical Expenses/reimbursement (except fixed Annual Medical
>>>> allowance) - I wish that hum sabko ko iski jayada zaroorat na pade...
>>>>

>>>> *So, the figure of Rs 8.8 lakh may be correct. Actual CTC will be very

>>>> close to this figure. I am not debating on this figure. But i just
>>>> wanted to

>>>> know the details behind this Rs 8.8 lakh figure..*

>>>>> *Sachin Patidar*,

>>>>> Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),
>>>>> DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

>>>>> *NABARD*,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

[Dheerendra Kori]

Dear  Manish   u r right that many people was desperate to join nababrd bt r they know truth about the work,work culture,nabard policy blaw............blaw........blaw........................................ this organisation doing rural development in AC office...............here DDM posting is called punishment posting......................................................are bhai kuch achha bhala karna hi hai toh....................mahilaao, viklango ko recruit karlo. kam se kam unka bhala toh ho hi jayega...........................or kya kahu iske bare main manish wakai main yeh gajab ki organisation hai,non-expressable......................apex level institution.......................my god..............or bhi bahut kuch................................chalo yehi batado NABARD walo ki sunta kon hai........................janta kon hai..............................or toh or yeh sare niyam kanun nabard walo ko sirf apne juniors per hi thopne main mahsus hota hai ki wo officer hai.........................officer apex level instt. ke offficer...........................   dear manish be mature --- On Wed, 14/9/11, himanshu shekhar <talk2...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: himanshu shekhar <talk2...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com

[manish manda]

Dear all

Dheerendra the thing i wanted to tell u, u told me " Be mature"   it s ur 1st job ? rite naa...sorrry for anything unwanted from my side...I can put lakhs and lakhs of arguements bt of no use....we cant change each other's thoughts....so better to stop this discusion here.thanks Enjoy

[Dheerendra Kori]

dear manish   first of all its not my first job 2nd thing is that there are many exper. perrson. who made big mistake to join this apex level instt......................khair dost...................i know u r so mature and very optimistic i hope tum yaha per CGM bano...................best of luck dost...........

--- On Wed, 14/9/11, manish manda <manis...@gmail.com> wrote:

[sachin patidar]

Koi Bhi Desh Perfect nahi hota..............

 

Second line which u didn't mention manish bhai is................

 

"USE PERFECT BANANA PADTA H"

 

Aur vo bhavna aap me jab tak nahi aayegi tab tak aap me complecency rahe ya.....dhire dhire aap us work culture me dhal jao jo ki prachalan me h.........then the blood flowing in ur vein will be of same colour as that of NABARD.....

 

BE A REBEL

[Dheerendra Kori]

sahi kaha sachin koi bhi desh perfect nahi..........................     actully NABARD apne aap ko perfect manta hai...................isliye toh yeh halat hai

--- On Wed, 14/9/11, sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com

[Swatantr .]

Right yaar

yaha se bhagna padega if Civil clear than ok but it takes 1 or 2 year
to complete i m started to go even Axis and ICICI. One of person in
Our mumbai HR said me this Org living in 19 th century and we are all
talking to 21 st century where work,Job profile,Productivity
creativity market value are important, Challenge and adventure is
nightmare here

here we are living like old man 10 to 5 job no ambition for future
other than promotion with chachagiri ,taking pension at starting of
professional life i m missing my last job a lot

On 9/14/11, sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Koi Bhi Desh Perfect nahi hota..............
>
> Second line which u didn't mention manish bhai is................
>

> *"USE PERFECT BANANA PADTA H"*

>
> Aur vo bhavna aap me jab tak nahi aayegi tab tak aap me complecency rahe
> ya.....dhire dhire aap us work culture me dhal jao jo ki prachalan me
> h.........then the blood flowing in ur vein will be of same colour as that
> of NABARD.....
>

> *BE A REBEL*
> --
> *Sachin Patidar*,

> Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),
> DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

> *NABARD*,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,
> Shimla
> +918091959154,
> +918099037276.
> .
>

[manish manda]

Dear all

I remember that Bhawani made this group with a view that we will share useful things bt i dont remember any instance when we shared anything except what salaries, allownaces etc we will get (i dont say dont discuss this bt primary things have never been discussed). Nabard has recruited young blood with a hope n ppl r proving it wrong...Its very easy to criticise, find faults everytime bt 1 thing i want to ask have u ever on this group mail came out with any solution or alternative option....answer is NEVER...regarding my optimism, i think not only me bt every1 should be optimistic...U r complaining abt old lot of ppl in NABARD criticisng NABARD...they may have their own sweet n bitter experiences ...why r u going by their views???(remember not all old employees criticise it)...i wannna ask u then what is the difference btwn u n them????u r also on the same track n thats even so early in ur career...Name any alernative organisation where paper work is not there, its necessary to an extent...I m not against technology bt there is a difference between Techno friendly n Techno Addict...Even technology have loopholes....Regarding "BEING A REBEL", it sounds so lurious n attractive bt have u came out with a way of rebellion....Being rebel does not mean u keep on critisising, it means real constructive ideas..Regarding Axis bank, ICICI etc, man go out and check the situation there...I m damm sure that picture will be crystal clear to u...I cant counterreply ur future replies...it is the best i could have said, rest depends on senses of everyone.enjoy

[vishal kansal]

Ha ha ha ha

Gud 1 Himanshu...

 

U r right... They indeed post us like that only...

From: himanshu shekhar <talk2...@gmail.com>
To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed

[Gurvinder Singh Ahuja]

मंदा जी.... तमिल नाडु कार्यालय में बिलकुल काम नहीं है क्या?? क्या मैं अपने RO से कुछ काम outsource करवा दूं??

वैसे मेरा ये मानना है कि कुदाल को कुदाल कहना कोई criticism नहीं है....

ऊपर कही गयी ये बात बहुत उम्दा है...

"If one is complacent & can flow with the organisation ......the ogranisation is going to rot like anything.....if we are not going to change the practices, rules, regulation...org will remain the way it is......then again we will have to hire BCG( or firms like that) for repositioning exercise....and spent lakhs of rupees....."

[Swatantr .]

Dear All,

I have worked 3.5 year in a corporate banking in a top 10 PSB, I was
handling 1000 cr portfolio of mid size companies having 100 cr or more
turn over as relationship Manager where credit appraisal,Documentation
and Monitoring with relationship management is the my job profile and
leaved
What a joke If NABARD recruit a Finance Specialist with CA,MBA and
posted them into Premises so say Stationary whats the F***** this is
now whats remain to expect from this org.

In a interview they ask

1. What is International Trade
2. What is Primary dealer and Work,
3. is NABARD a PD
4. CRR and its impact on Inflation and growth
5. If CRR up by 50bps than whats the impact on Interest Rate and why
6. If CRR up by 50bps whats the impact on GSec
7. if CRR upby 50Bps will u give sale or buy call for Gsec 10year Gsec
8. Impact in short run and Long run of CRR and Bank Rate
9. Ratio Analysis in case of Appraisal of Bank Balance sheet

and many more. this give impression org have good work and they do not
mention posting and job profile before joining otherwise everyone make
good, rational decision.

for Axis and ICICI is concern i was said this will be worst situation

On 9/15/11, manish manda <manis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all
> I remember that Bhawani made this group with a view that we will share
> useful things bt i dont remember any instance when we shared anything except
> what salaries, allownaces etc we will get (i dont say dont discuss this bt
> primary things have never been discussed). Nabard has recruited young blood
> with a hope n ppl r proving it wrong...Its very easy to criticise, find

> faults everytime bt 1 thing i want to ask *have u ever on this group mail
> came out with any solution or alternative option....*answer is
> NEVER...regarding my optimism, i think not only me bt *every1 should be
> optimistic*...U r complaining abt old lot of ppl in NABARD criticisng

> NABARD...they may have their own sweet n bitter experiences ...why r u going
> by their views???(remember not all old employees criticise it)...i wannna

> ask u then *what is the difference btwn u n them*????u r also on the same

> track n thats even so early in ur career...Name any alernative organisation
> where paper work is not there, its necessary to an extent...I m not against
> technology bt there is a difference between Techno friendly n Techno
> Addict...Even technology have loopholes....Regarding "BEING A REBEL", it
> sounds so lurious n attractive bt have u came out with a way of

> rebellion....Being rebel does not mean u keep on critisising, *it means real
> constructive ideas..*Regarding Axis bank, ICICI etc, man go out and check
> the situation there...I m damm sure that *picture will be crystal clear to
> u...*I cant counterreply ur future replies...it is the best i could have

[sachin patidar]

Good HR Policy of Good NABARD.........

 

hahaha......

 

RDBS-Finance posted in Bihar RO........as AM in Stationary......

 

Enjoy Manish Bhai........

 

How u will make this-great-nabard-decision appropriate, right and in the line with objective set by its so called higher authority to achieve the rural prosperity & overall development of Agriculture Sector........

 

--
Sachin Patidar,

Asst.Mgr.Gr-'A',(RDBS-General),

DIT, Premises, Dead-Stock, P.&S.O.,

NABARD,Himachal Pradesh Regional Office.,

Shimla

+918091959154,

+918099037276.

.

[Dheerendra Kori]

yaar sachin ab nabard ki HR policy ne koi faisla kia hai toh soch samajhkar hi kiya hoga,itne bade or mahan decesion sirf NABARD wale hi le sakte hai inki bahut hi lumbi list hai....................   1. Kerala walo ko bihar posting ...........................ab LTC ke alawa ghar jane ka koi chara nahi.................lekin yeh NABARD ki policy hai   2. MBA-FINANCE posted in Stationary ....................amazing   3. 1984 batch Grd A is still AGM and clerk came from RBI become DGM   4.if u r coming from AIIMS u'll be posted in medical-bill, if u r IIM graduate u might be posted in P& S.  if u pass out frrom IITs u definately deserve PREMISES if u Studies PUBLIC AD like u must be posted in GAD   matlab yeh hai ki yaha ka kaam hi itna mahan hai ki.........aage kya bole   yaha per itne bade bade example diye jate hai ki bhagwan hi malik hai   a person who is gold medilist in geo science posted in dispatch dept.............uske career ki toh starting main hi.....................................   fir bhi its best organisation nd people like u and me are nat mature, because we dont have experience (specoially RRB exp)............   ....................................................dear sachin hum mahan nahi hai bhai

--- On Thu, 15/9/11, sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sachin patidar <sach.p...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed

[sachin patidar]

sahi h mere bihari bhai............u rock........

[Gurvinder Singh Ahuja]

मनीष जी, आप इन सबके खिलाफ विशेषाधिकार हनन का मामला दर्ज कर दो....

[Meenakshi Gosain]

Sekhar

 

I'd just like to say one thing. Never keep a prejudiced/myopic view about anything. See the world with your own eyes. You mentioned, you are a student of IRMA, Anand (Gujarat).So, I'd suggest you to come down to our Gujarat R.O in Ahmedabad sometime. IMHO, you can meet people here and get a feel of the organisation before you decide to take the plunge.

 

 

Best Wishes

 

Meenakshi

---

From: Sekhar Rayaprolu <rams...@gmail.com>
To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 12 September, 2011 6:03:13 PM
Subject: Info about Assistant Managers needed

Dear All,

I was selected as Assistant Manager for NABARD in 2010 along with you
people, but could not join as I was pursuing my course in Rural
Management at IRMA due to finish by March 2012.

In the mean time I asked HR of NABARD to extend my date of joining
till April 2012 which after much furor they agreed to. And I am
pending to join by 1st of April 2012 in Lucknow.

I am interested in joining a Government organisation and hence I
applied for NABARD. But being in IRMA, I would get campus placements
in some government organisations (Like SERP, CRD, ITDA of Government
of Andra Pradesh....and I am a native of Andhra Pradesh). I have to
make a choice whether to join NABARD or to take up placements at IRMA.
So I needed some help from my fellow Managers in NABARD. Kindly help
me in below questions:

[Mohammed Riyaz]

Hi friends

intersting discusn going on.

jo criticize kar raha tha, aap logon ko NABARD  join karne kliya kisi ne force kiya tha kya?

this is a great institution with lot of opportunities to work for masses.

abhi Stationery mei hey, iska meaning yeh nahi hey ki poora career usmehi hoga.

i agree with Sachin , be a rebel(not to fight, but to improve the systems. ) need to alter HR procedures

2-3 days before, i was discussing with an AGM regding posting rules. We felt that a job in which u need to work among the villagers & tribals, local language proficiency & knowledge of local culture is essential. So NABARD should atleast follow zonal or  regional recruitment & posting, for eg, a person from Tamilnadu should be posted and  kept within the  Southern region(kerala, banglre, or chennai)

i doubt what purpose is served in sending a person from Kerala to work in Jammu ? NABARD can reduce its expense also in avoiding long transfers

those who were mentioning  lazy work culture, i agree NABARD mein kaam chori ka bahut opportunities hey,. simultaneously i have met some wonderful people also in NABARD, like Sanjeev Rohilla(Gujarat RO) who was DDM of Anand dt, now being hand picked by HO for its new Dept- Corporate Communcn- smart, efficient & great communicator with a profsnl approach

anyway abhi tak wo IRMA wala confuse ho gaya hoga with a myriad of muti-dimensional views.

Maneesh manda, lagta hey tumhe Chennai bahut pasand a gaya  hey.

Honestly 4 me , except the posting rules, NABARD is fantastic with opportunity to work from a stationery dept to State projects Dept.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Dheerendra Kori <dheer...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

sanjeev bilkul sahi kaha hamare yah ki policy hi aishi hai.......................... --- On Tue, 13/9/11, sanjeev kumar <sanji...@gmail.com> wrote: From: sanjeev kumar <sanji...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Info about Assistant Managers needed To: nabard-am-a...@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 10:33 AM Dear Sekhar, the answers of your queries are as follows:

1) What is the typical work profile of an AM in NABARD?

Telling u bluntly, except Jhaadu-Pochha (In future, may it be added to) all the works are to be carried out by AM.

2) How is the work culture in ROs at NABARD?

Get the gist of the replies of other friends 3) Office Timings? office timing is same as governmental offices. however, there is a facility called "PCL"(Permission for coming late). I don't have much idea about it.

4) In hand salary? (Very important as I have to pay back my education loan)

Get the gist of the replies of other friends

5) Allowances other than Salary?

Get the gist of the replies of other friends

6) Chance of getting posting in Hyderabad?

in your whole career, maximum 7-10 years u can stay in AP. (depends upon situations)

7) Any other advice to help me make a decision..welcome!!

Get the gist of the replies of other friends.

[sachin patidar]

Tu kai karto riyaz bhai.....tu ghano late hui gyo ini vartalap me participate karne vaste............

 

 

anyway.....gud to c ur comments...
--
Sachin Patidar,

[Nirmal kumar]

Dear Sekhar Rayaprolu

 

Thanks for entrusting me a great responsibility to make you prior aware about the few question raised in respect of joining this organisation.I have joined in this organisation w.e.f 17 January 2011.So keeping in view of my limited experience you may over look or rather correct my  comment in arriving at practical and justified decision.So Kindly solicite your cooperation.    

1) What is the typical work profile of an AM in NABARD?

Ans :-There is no specified work profile of an AM,you have work to in each capacity starting fro Messengar Job,Clerical Job any other job as specified by CGM of RO.

 

2) How is the work culture in ROs at NABARD?

Ans:-There is narrow scope for dyanamic role as you can only do something after getting DDM Posting.  

3) Office Timings?

Ans: - In General It is 0930 Hrs to 1730 Hrs .When requirement arise you have to work beyond office hour.

4) In hand salary? (Very important as I have to pay back my education loan)

Ans:- Rupees 36,000/-(per month including all Allowances) 

5) Allowances other than Salary?

Ans:- Telephone(Rs. 1000/-),News Paper(Rs.1000/-),Maid(Rs.2000/-),Petrol(120 Ltrs )If you own car otherwise walking allowances Rs.4000/- Per month.All amount credited quaterly.  

6) Chance of getting posting in Hyderabad?

Ans:-Even girl from Andhra Pradesh Could not able to posted in Hyderabad. 

7) Any other advice to help me make a decision..welcome!!

Ans:-If you want to play major role in rural developement then try to compete civil services Union as well as State, an easy life then join.

But always remember true education always bring prosperity in society even at the peril of our own life.   

I hope you may benefit from my advice.further I undetake that everything expressed above is my personnel opinion,It may be wrong or wright now decide.

Thanks,

Nirmal Kumar 

AM

Pune,RO

20 September 2011

[Mohammed Riyaz]

hi sachin
4-5 din mail nahi dekha bhai