Aleena stats

[Joe Mason]

JohnBiles at the Piazza posted a conversion of Aleena (the cleric from
the Basic Set introductory adventure, who was further fleshed out in
GAZ1):

http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?p=5326#p5326

He just made her level 12, like GAZ1 did, but I think a level 12 char
in BD&D should be level 8 in 4E (I posted my conversion chart in a
much earlier thread).

Joe

[John Hofmann]

I'm with you on the idea that the levels should not be converted 1:1.  I think this is going to be more of an art form in the near future.

There are rules in the DMG for creating NPCs, since it doesn't really make sense to go through the entire process of PC generation for someone who's not a PC.  Has anyone looked at them?  Do they create NPCs that are on-par with PCs of the same level?

[David Knott]

From: "John Hofmann" <gengh...@gmail.com>

> I'm with you on the idea that the levels should not be converted 1:1. I
> think this is going to be more of an art form in the near future.

Then again, 1:1 works pretty well for the lower levels
if there are no other considerations (such as role as foe
in an adventure).

> There are rules in the DMG for creating NPCs, since it doesn't really make
> sense to go through the entire process of PC generation for someone who's
> not a PC. Has anyone looked at them? Do they create NPCs that are on-par
> with PCs of the same level?

I have. A party of NPCs is a fair challenge for a
party of PCs of the same size, which actually makes
them a bit weaker than the corresponding PCs. I
would use standard NPCs for nameless foes of
given classes and levels.

However, adding another template turns them
into elite foes. A party of elite monsters of
the same number and levels as the party is
considered beyond hard -- which is as it should
be for an encounter that would have a 50%
chance of resulting in a total party kill and
which would significantly drain a party's
resources even if they do survive. Elite
monsters of a given level seem to be the
equals of the PCs that they fight on a 1:1
basis -- a situation that should seldom if
ever be permitted to arise. (Solo monsters
are just plain superior to PCs of equal level,
of course.)

The key to survival of PCs, of course, is to
avoid "fair" fights....

[John Hofmann]

I guess my point was "does Aleena need PC stats or are NPC stats doable?"

It sounds like NPC stats are more than sufficient if your intention is to use the characters in-game rather than just statting up NPCs for its own sake.