Traditional ways to test soil

[venkateswararao pedavalli]

Hi everyone,

In ancient days there were no chemicals and laboratories . Then I am
exciting to know how the following tests could be done in those
ancient days.
1)ph value of the soil
2)nutrients of soil like nitrogen phosphorous ,potash and calcium
contents
3)location of hardpan below the surface
4)Lacking of trace elements in soil
5) humus content in soil ..... etc.


Please anybody give the information or links or name of books or any
kind of resources to know this.

I am very much thankful to you .


Regards,
Venkateswara Rao

[vt padmanabhan vt]

Dear Venki,

Like before 1900, there was no X rays. But doctors still used to diagnose patients by looking and touching them. Before the labs came, people could understand the soil by tasting, looking at the plant life etc. All machines kill one or other innate capacities we have,.

VTP

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[venkateswararao pedavalli]

But can we find still any documented books on those tips to test soil
traditionally? Please show me a way how to get back those traditional
ways at least some portion. Please suggest me some resource for this
purpose.
Any one please help me in this regard.

Thank you very much.

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[viswanath narayan]

Hi.....  try vriksha ayurvedha may be u get an answer viswanath --- On Tue, 23/6/09, venkateswararao pedavalli <venki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: venkateswararao pedavalli <venki.p...@gmail.com> Subject: Traditional ways to test soil To: "MyRighttosafefood" <myrightto...@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 1:13 PM

Hi everyone, In ancient days there were no chemicals and laboratories . Then I am exciting to know how the following tests could be done in those ancient days. 1)ph value of the soil 2)nutrients of soil like nitrogen phosphorous ,potash and calcium contents 3)location of hardpan below the surface 4)Lacking of trace elements in soil 5) humus content in soil ..... etc. Please anybody give the information or links or name of books or any kind of resources to know this. I am very much thankful to you . Regards, Venkateswara Rao

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[Devi Nair]

Hi,
You can try "Krishi Gita" which is available at DK Books :

https://www.dkagencies.com/doc/from/1063/to/1123/bkId/DK915321716276820564204805121/details.html

 or at Asian Agri-History Foundation.

2009/6/23 viswanath narayan <vishy...@yahoo.co.in>

[Pratap Hegde]

Interesting  question.

 

 

In my opinion our ancestors were aware all these issues fundamentally and comprehensively. Perhaps their knowledge was at “ awareness level “ and not at modern “ logical level“. For example they were not knowing about “ ph value “ as ph value. But they knew the “ concept “ and hence they were planting tamarind trees in between fields and that was stabilizing the ph value of the soil around the tree.

 

 

But it is one of the biggest tragedy of our times that “western educated” people like us thought our ancestors and villagers are dumb, uneducated and hence no good. The reality is our ancestors and elders in  rural India are more wise despite being less knowledgeable . In fact Knowledge is not equivalent to  wisdom as many of us think.

 

 

 

Our ancestors were not analyzing the soil technically . They were experiencing it. They were a part of it.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Pratap Hegde

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: myrightto...@googlegroups.com [mailto:myrightto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of venkateswararao pedavalli
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MyRighttosafefood
Subject: Traditional ways to test soil

 

 

Hi everyone,

[Sangita Sharma]

A brilliant reference book " Glimpses of the Agricultural Heritage of India" by Y L Nene. For detailed information on Soil Management in ancient, medieval and Pre Modern India and its relevance in Mordern - Day Sustainable Agriculture - View chapter 38 ...you will find all your answers.

Since time immemorial, soil has been regarded as nourishing all animates, moving and static. The Imporatnce of soil is summed up in a 1500 year old sanskrit  text  "Upon a handul of soil our survival depends. Husband it and it will grow our food, our fuel and shelter and surround us with beauty. Abuse it and the soil will collapse and die and taking man with it". A pristine proverb translated from Telugu " A soil without manure is as barren as is a cow without calf"


Sangita Sharma

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Sangita;

How r you?? The group is keeping you BUSY!!

Awsome job...

Chinky and the kids are in the US.

Keep the candle burning...... Shyam

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From: Sangita Sharma
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:16:05 +0530
To: <myrightto...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Traditional ways to test soil

[viswanath narayan]

Dear pratap wonderful answer ... we are all litterate and not educated as this word referes to wisdom .... we all know how to read and write mechanically without wisdom viswanath --- On Tue, 23/6/09, Pratap Hegde <pra...@telematics4u.com> wrote:

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[C N Kumar]

Please send personal messages such as the one attached directly.  Otherwise it needlessly crowds the email boxes of others on the egroup. Thanks.


Best regards

C N Kumar

From: sge...@gmail.com
Reply-To: myrightto...@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:11:36 +0000
To: myrightto...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Traditional ways to test soil

Sangita; How r you?? The group is keeping you BUSY!! Awsome job... Chinky and the kids are in the US.Keep the candle burning...... Shyam

[vt padmanabhan vt]

Kumar's suggestion is very valid.  I sent an email with subject " To Kuldip only" two days ago.  I requested her to send me her's and Sangita's email id.  It seems they are too busy and cannot handle the traffic.

VTP

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From: C N Kumar <c...@advantageofindia.com>
To: myrightto...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009 4:44:37 AM
Subject: Personal messages.

[Bh. Re'em]

Dear Sangita and Venkateswara Rao,

Subash Palekar wrote 3 volumes on traditional Indian agriculture, you
can find/get it online (Spiritual Farming). Although the name is a bit
odd it provides *a lot* of valuable information.


In this regard, and in relation to some recent messages: I have a few
questions on Mahyco seeds and their natural alternatives. But I am not
sure if that is a personal message or a general one. Sangita -- can
you please clarify what questions can be asked on the forum? For
example, I'd like to address experts with questions on chemical agri
vs. natural one -- is that okay?

Re'em


2009/6/23 venkateswararao pedavalli <venki.p...@gmail.com>:

[Sangita Sharma]

Dear Re'em

Farming(conventional/organic) and its outcome. Information on safe food is the forte of this forum. Seeds are the very first origin in the food chain, when contaminated the impact it has on the food chain, consumer alerts if any, ....consumers have a right to an informed choice

Information that is relevant in above terms where trials, or experiments on soil, seeds/ foods are taking place can be shared. If it is highly technical then kindly address the person you wish. Request each one to use their discretion to share given its importance.

Regards

Sangita