Feature Wish List
SharkBoy
you like on other sites that you think we should include? What
features on other sites do you dislike.
RealJustice
discussions beetween SharkBoy and myself. Here's an email with
background on a music site that I did like, that was somewhat easy to
use, and had complete freedom of expression. We really need to create
a collaboration site that allows a free exchange of ideas, without the
permissions, and approvals. I find inspiration in the moment. If I
hear an interesting track I want to download and work with it NOW. My
level of interest dies off exponentially each day I have to wait for
someone to give me "permission" to collaborate and download.
Here's an email between SharkBoy and I to get us all started:
I'm very interested in a collab site that worked like
"MyVirtualBand.com". Do you have enough bandwidth and storage to get
something going? The best music I've heard out of online
collaboration was done "free form" on MyVirtualBand. The site was
very simple, very user friendly. Each project was simply a folder in
a blog. Anyone could download any track (you did need to sign up to
be a member). I think all the uploads were done via FTP. Once in the
proper FTP slot, it would show up in the right blog. When you played
the song, it would stream similar to DMN, or you could download.
Once you landed at the main site there were two or three main entry
points. One was multi-song (for like an album), and the other was
single song. Once you clicked on one of those, you would be routed to
a large folder page. Click in one of those and you would have total
access to upload or download. None of this "must be a member of this
studio" crap. All of the formalities of all known sites completely
stifle creativity. If I hear a song, I want to mess with it right
now, not wait a week to see if someone likes my previously uploaded
demo. I could send you many amazing songs that came from MVB. The
site was so popular that "Net Music Makers" bought them out, closed
their domain, they fucked it all up. I know many musicians from the
old site who either don't participate or simply can't stand using any
of the other sites. We've been talking about starting another site
similar to MVB.com since they shut down.
Let me know if you are serious about starting a collaboration site. I
personally think a good one is needed. I'm sure membership would be
high in no time...
SharkBoy
project. The create project wizard will give a user a choice of three
access types:
Public (defualt) - 100% free form. Any one can download and post.
Members Only - Project is listed in the the project directory. Users
can apply or be invited to join a project. Only accepted members can
download and post.
Private - The project does not appear in the directory until the
project owner publishes it. Participation is by invite only.
These option can be modified at any time. This is how google groups
works.
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RealJustice
genre. MVB lacked that feature. I also think each song should be
able to have multiple genre classifications.
-justice
On Jul 11, 10:27 pm, SharkBoy <jcilibe...@kpmg.com> wrote:
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JamMaster
able to start and join bands. A band would be a group of registered
users that regularlly work together. It would have a name, a profile
page with links to tracks and info etc.
When you set up a band you can have audition criteria. For example you
can state that an audition track must be submitted and approved before
a member will be accepted. I voting system would allow for a member to
be accepted by other members of the group.
RealJustice
I really want to shy away from that type of exclusivity. If you want
to be a part of a site like that, that IS DigitalMusician, and
NetMusicMakers. These sites impose too many restrictions on creative
flow. If I want to work on a song, I wan to do it NOW, while I'm
inspired. If I wait for someone to "audition me" I'll lose steam.
The original model "MyVirtualBand" produced amazing music, I
personally feel (many other feel this way too) that the site should
maximize freedom. Creating clicks and clubs will definitely restrict
the overall creativity. SharkBoy wants to have a more private section
where people can be invited and work of "confidential" songs. I think
having that ability is a very good compromise.
I do think that people should be "Members" (all that means is they
sign a creative commons license & agree not to upload copyrighted
material) BEFORE being able to upload and contribute. Downloading
should be free to all. I'm saying actual downloading which is in
addition to streaming for the sake of real-time playing.
I really, really, don't want clicky "bands" who only work together and
stop contributing to other members content. Trust me that will
happen.
-justice
JamMaster
> JamMaster:
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> I really want to shy away from that type of exclusivity. If you want
> to be a part of a site like that, that IS DigitalMusician, and
> NetMusicMakers. These sites impose too many restrictions on creative
> flow. If I want to work on a song, I wan to do it NOW, while I'm
> inspired. If I wait for someone to "audition me" I'll lose steam.
project coordinator. Some people may like the idea of starting with a
simple idea amd having others join in and contribute. Others may have
a specific Idea of what they want and the level of musicianship
required. They should be able to restrict who can upload. There may
also be a middle of the road approach where anyone can upload but only
the project coordinators decide what goes in the final mix. People who
uploaded rejected tracks would still be able to access them they view
the project but the tracks would be ommited from the "published"
version.
Google groups uses this model and it works well.
So if you are looking for projects that are restriction free, you
should be able to search on project of that type. For example (imagine
the following is a search form):
PROJECT SEARCH:
- Instrument : Vocals
- Project Type : Freeform
- Genre: Punk
> The original model "MyVirtualBand" produced amazing music, I
> personally feel (many other feel this way too) that the site should
> maximize freedom. Creating clicks and clubs will definitely restrict
> the overall creativity. SharkBoy wants to have a more private section
> where people can be invited and work of "confidential" songs. I think
> having that ability is a very good compromise.
I agree that maximizing freedom is a good thing. The site should make
everything as easy as posible too. You should not need to read a
manual or get "Certified" as in the case of digital musician in order
to use the site.
> I do think that people should be "Members" (all that means is they
> sign a creative commons license & agree not to upload copyrighted
> material) BEFORE being able to upload and contribute. Downloading
> should be free to all. I'm saying actual downloading which is in
> addition to streaming for the sake of real-time playing.
Yes. You cannot allow uploads to unregistered anounomous users. Not
only would you be sued by the record companies but hackers would take
down the site in an hour by uploaded thousands of files until the hard
disk was full. You need to require loggins and you need to have upload
quotas.
> I really, really, don't want clicky "bands" who only work together and
> stop contributing to other members content. Trust me that will
> happen.
The band concept is about "here are a group of people that I like to
work with". There may also be a situation where you have a offline
band that wants to use the site to collaborate on new material or
promote existing material. They should be able to each have a
myonlineband.com account with an individual profile and have a shared
band profile. Each profile will have it's own public facing web page.
I agree that you will have some members only contributing to there own
things but I don't see that as a negitive. What you want is people
using the site and people sending others to the site to check out the
tunes. The site needs to apeal to the broadest group of users as
possible in order to be successful.
>
> -justice
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> On Jul 21, 10:52 am, JamMaster <ciliber...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > In addition to having projects I was thinking that members should be
> > able to start and join bands. A band would be a group of registered
> > users that regularlly work together. It would have a name, a profile
> > page with links to tracks and info etc.
>
> > When you set up a band you can have audition criteria. For example you
> > can state that an audition track must be submitted and approved before
> > a member will be accepted. I voting system would allow for a member to
> > be accepted by other members of the group.
>
> > On Jul 11, 11:27 pm, SharkBoy <jcilibe...@kpmg.com> wrote:
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> > > What features would you like to see on the site? What cool features do
> > > you like on other sites that you think we should include? What
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JamMaster
display an interactive world map with markers where each band member
is. During group chats an animation can make the text message pop up
look like it is coming from a location on the map.
On Jul 11, 11:27 pm, SharkBoy <jcilibe...@kpmg.com> wrote:
John Wooten
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