Contexts closed are still showing up

[Alexis]

I just installed the 4.3.1 Trial Pro Version on my Win 7 PC.
I´m struggling with the contexts and the according viewfilters.
I started creating the contexts:

- Office
- Home
- Day
- Evening
- Calls

I defined different Opening Times for Day and Evening and thought that only tasks open would be displayed. But that only works if no other context is assigned to that task.

A task with the context "Calls; Day" will still be displayed if i filter in the evening for "Calls". Is it possible that a task is closed if just one containing task is closed?

I guess i can achieve what i want to see by clever filter settings but than the automatization with the Closing Times is lost.

What could be a workaround? To be more flexible i don´t want to create contexts like "Calls Day", "Calls Evening"

Thank You
Alexandra

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Alexandra.

If this were mine I would create contexts for “calls day” and “calls night”. I would also create a context “calls” which would *include* calls day as well as calls night. That way I could look at active tasks in the context “calls” and see daytime calls if it’s daytime and see nighttime calls if its night. I would probably need a similar arrangement for Home, but it might not be day and night so much as weeknight and weekend. I would hope that you would not need to break “office” down; if you actually need an “office night” or “office weekend” you have bigger troubles. Just kidding. Sorry.

 

Anyhow, the disadvantage of this is maintenance of schedules. If the hours considered “day” versus “night” should change, your scheme would allow that change to be made with edits to just “day” and “night” where my scheme would require the change to be made to almost every context. But I would still think it’s worth it.

-Dwight

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[Alexis]

Hi Dwight,

thank you so much. I begin to understand the concept of contexts. So i need more contexts but each task needs less. ;-)  I hope i can make it without the context "office night" LOL.

The next thing i would like to understand is the concept of locations as i would like to use MLO also on my iPhone. Maybe relevant tasks can magically pop up if i am at this location. I already found the entry for longitude and latitude in MLO Desktop. I will post seperately for this.

Again, Thank You
Alexandra

[Steve Neas]

Alexis,

You might be able to use the Advanced filter settings to achieve what you want.

Try creating a new view, and setting an advanced filter for "Contexts" "does not contain" "Day".

Using that view in the evening, you can use the manual context filters to select only "Calls".

I didn't test this thoroughly, but I think it should work this way.

[Alexis]

Dear Dwight, you wrote:

"I would also create a context “calls” which would *include* calls day as well as calls night. That way I could look at active tasks in the context “calls” and see daytime calls if it’s daytime and see nighttime calls if its night."

In my case if i do this and select the context calls i see calls day and calls night regardless of the closing times of calls day and calls night. Actually (un-) checking the "include closed" Checkbox in the view filter shows no difference while behind the context it says (closed). The tasks are always visible. Is there a global "Deactivate Closing Times" - Button. ;-)
I´m using a To-Do View.

Thank You
Alex

[Dwight Arthur]

I’m not sure what would cause what you are seeing. I don’t think that there is any global “include closed” on Windows. To-do lists are usually based on action filter = “active”. If you had an action filter = “all” then your tasks with closed contexts would still be inactive but would be displayed because “all” includes inactive tasks. Also, please make sure that the tasks involved do not have some other open context in addition to the closed day/night contexts. I will show you some screenshots of how it works for me, I hope that you can see them.

First, an All Tasks view (Action=All; include closed) shows some daycalls, some nightcalls, and some without context.

Manage context window (f8) shows that “calls” includes daycalls and nightcalls

CALLS view filters on context “calls” (which has no tasks but includes daycalls, closed with 5 tasks, and nightcalls, open with 5 tasks. “include closed” is off and action filter is “active” Only the five tasks with “nightcalls” . context are shown. Note that the task count for nightcalls decreased from 9 down to 5 because I changed from “all” to “active” – there is one completed nightcalls task and three nightcall parents with uncompleted children, all considered inactive and therefore excluded from the “calls” view.

Finally a look at task properties for a daycalls task. Although the task is in green showing that it’s available for execution, the task properties panel shows “Action: Inactive. All assigned contexts are closed: daycalls”. If your tasks with closed contexts are showing active status here, there is something wrong with how you tried to assign them to closed contexts. If it shows inactive status here and yet they appear on your view, the view is incorrectly accepting inactive tasks.

 

I hope this helps.

-Dwight

 

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[Alexis]

I´m sorry i have to say that regarding to this showing closed context tasks i just found another bug. The problem occurs if you use Start Date presets.

What´s going on here? I use MLO for a week and find one bug after another. And nobody is appreciating my "Incremental Search Tip" ;-(
Dwight, do you know of other MLO Forums?

Thank You
Alex

[Dwight Arthur]

In addition to the main forum on Google Groups there are additional forums on Google Groups for users of MLO/Android and MLO/iPhone&iPad. There’s a Russian-language forum at http://www.mylifeorganized.net/forum-ru/ and there’s a beta forum restricted to beta testers. There are also numerous forums devoted to task management tool comparison, various methodologies such as GTD, and other topics that end up with a section or a thread about MLO. You can probably find all of them in Google Search.

-Dwight

 

Alexis Wrote
“. . .do you know of other MLO Forums?”

[Alexis]

Oh great, there is a seperate iphone forum! I´m currently testing the iOS Apps. I did not know that. Wait a minute. There Andrei says the main forum should be used for iOS and the last entry is from march 2013. Ok.

BTW. I don´t wanna say that this is not a great forum. Especially you are very kind and helpful. I just thought as this forum is not so busy compared to the relatively common product MLO there are maybe other forums.

Did you manage to reproduce the problem i mentioned. It´s just 2 clicks. Did you ever wrote a mail to support...Do they usally answer or confirm stuff?

Thank You
Alex

[Dwight Arthur]

Alex wrote:
Did you manage to reproduce the problem i mentioned. It´s just 2 clicks.

• Which problem? I didn't reproduce the issue about closed contexts.  I sent you screen shots showing it working correctly and suggested using task status to diagnose what's going wrong for you. If you didn't get that let me know and I will pm you a copy.
• I did confirm the bug you reported about ctrl/v (and ctrl/c) malfunctioning while a helper window is open. While this is truly a bug and I'd like to be help you get it resolved I'm not going to take the lead on this one as it has no effect on me. I use ctrl-ins and shift-ins for copy and paste and they are unaffected.
• If your two-click problem is something other than these two, please remind me.

Did you ever wrote a mail to support...Do they usally answer or confirm stuff?

• I often write to the support email. I have a fairly good record of getting response but it's not 100%. I would suggest mentioning that you are in the trial period and would appreciate a response.

-Dwight
Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2

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[Alexis]

I wrote "The problem occurs if you use Start Date presets."

In Detail:
- On the left there is the view filter pane. Go to the category Start Date. On the right of the word From: you will find presets
- Click on it. Choose a preset.
- See how magically closed contexts appear regardless of opening times. ;-)

Thank You
Alex

[Andrei Bacean]

Hi Alex
I confirm the bug.
the attached image is showing it.

Best wishes
Andrei B.

среда, 1 октября 2014 г., 19:40:55 UTC+3 пользователь Alexis написал:

[Mr Cricket]

I think this behaviour is "by design".

Hint: what should it show for 'Today+1"?

[Alexis]

Thanks a lot for confirming, Andrei.

As a MLO Newbi i need to be sure before i write a mail to support with the current bugs. I wonder a bit why i find 2 Bugs while trying out this software in 10 days which where new to this forum. I hope things does not continue like this. Somehow i begin to like this tool anyway. ;-)

Is there somewhre a list/thread of currently known issues of 4.3.1 so i don´t have to mention problems which are already obvious.

Thank You
Alex

[Andrei Bacean]

hi Alex

I have reported about this thread to the beta-forum.

I wonder a bit why i find 2 Bugs while trying out this software in 10 days which where new to this forum. I hope things does not continue like this. Somehow i begin to like this tool anyway. ;-)

You have good observation spirit. I guess you can achieve great organization results due to the speed with which you study this software. The power of MLO is that it is very very flexible. If you plan to create your own system based on GTD then you may discover that MLO is one of the best (IMO is the best) task management system.
Of course, during the development of this software, some bugs may occur. I think it's normal for any software. And thank you a lot for posting your observations to this forum.

Best regards
Andrei B.

четверг, 2 октября 2014 г., 9:27:38 UTC+3 пользователь Alexis написал:

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Andrei. I've replied to your post in the beta forum. As a beta tester you have the access to enter this bug into Jira by yourself, and I left a pointer to the instructions in your thread on the beta forum.

-Dwight

[Alexis]

I just applied to the beta team. Just found a third bug where only the last subtask stays in the folder. The other ones disappear. MLO has potential and i need the iOS Sync options. I would like to help elimination flaws and to suggest features to the benefit of every user.

Alex