MLO has become incredibly slow.

[Jeff Tix]

I am constantly being held up from getting work done because MLO is always in "not responding" mode.  This must stop.  It never used to do it, but now it happens almost every couple of minutes while i am making updates.  This is happening on my PC at home as well as my PC in my office on campus.

I hope there is a solution, because I do not have time for this sort of thing.

[imajeff]

I hoped it would not be because most posts are awaiting moderation from someone who is in Ukraine and could be unable to work online? I pray for those under repeated attacks.

Nobody has time for war--I would think, but I'm trying to put things into perspective after realizing my inconvenience in the U.S. is miniscule thus far.

[Stéph]

Is the problem that you've posted something on the forum and it's not appearing, or you have a problem with your desktop or mobile copy of MLO? If the latter, that might be due to a corruption in the MLO file and you may need to backtrack to an earlier backup. I once (only once, ever, about 15 years ago) had a corruption to my MLO file - I was able to spot it using a text editor.

[Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)]

> I am constantly being held up from getting work done because MLO is always in "not responding" mode.  This must stop.  It never used to do it, but now it happens almost every couple of minutes while i am making updates.

one of the reason for this could be if you save your data file in a network drive of slow flash drive. 

[Jeff Tix]

So, flash drives are not a good idea with MLO, and that if I wanted to store the file locally, it should be some kind of thing like Google Drive?

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 10:58 AM Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) <mlo.andr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am constantly being held up from getting work done because MLO is always in "not responding" mode.  This must stop.  It never used to do it, but now it happens almost every couple of minutes while i am making updates.

one of the reason for this could be if you save your data file in a network drive of slow flash drive. 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 10:53:12 PM UTC+2 jefft...@gmail.com wrote:

I am constantly being held up from getting work done because MLO is always in "not responding" mode.  This must stop.  It never used to do it, but now it happens almost every couple of minutes while i am making updates.  This is happening on my PC at home as well as my PC in my office on campus.

I hope there is a solution, because I do not have time for this sort of thing.

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[imajeff]

OK that is a good point: MLO must be doing a lot of accessing of the .ml file so if it was accessed over a windows file share (\\host\path) then just a little extra time to read each task could add up to running a lot slower...

Google Drive helps assuming you use the desktop software that keeps local files in sync with the network storage so MLO is not actually reading it from the network (C:\path).

Another thing I wonder is whether the slow-down happened after updating to a newer version of MLO, because others reported that when 5 came out and I think they usually had a lot of tasks (counting the completed tasks).

[Susannah]

I had this problem a year or two ago.  I think I had to reinstall it or maybe even go back to a previous version.  I can't remember exactly now.  I may have had to restore my file from backup too.  Once I did that it was back to normal again.  It was hanging on almost every click and was pretty much unusable.

[Susannah]

Mine was and still is on a flash drive and works great.  I have over 12000 tasks.

[Jeff Tix]

I am really thinking about wiping the mlo files off my flash drive and re-instaslling the software fresh.  Starting over.

I've looked for replacement software, but nothing is quite like this.  I need a planner...fast.

It has been so long since I did an install, and I am certain i signed up for a paid version, but I need to find out how to do that.

[Stéph]

If it's the portable version, you may not need to uninstall and reinstall. Just replacing the .exe file may be enough.

The problem may also be a corruption to your mlo data file, which you may be able to spot by using a text editor like Notepad++ to look at the exported .xml file. Although MLO is very stable, I had to do that once, about a decade ago.

[imajeff]

Alos maybe you can configure the flash drive to be cached so files read faster after the first read. It is usually optimized differently just to make sure it doesn't corrupt the FAT if you remove without unmounting

[Jeff Tix]

Sorry for the delay.  I think I found the cause, and it was not the software.  I have been focused on getting recovered from the problems of the last two weeks.  In summary, here is what I discovered.

• Excessively large flash drives are a bad idea.  Use multiple, smaller flash drives for different purposes.  
• Cheap USB hubs are a bad idea.  My tech guy told me never purchase one that has over three slots.   If one of those slots is an HDMI slot, you probably have found a good one, but that is no guarantee.  He reminded me that I am not supposed to buy any tech without his blessing.  Cheap e
• Cheap hubs have small, unreliable "pipes" for the transfer of data.  If those pipes are attached to a large flash drive, you are begging for file corruption.  That is what happened to me, and to my MLO files.  He walked me through purchasing what I should have had in the first place.  MLO is now back to its flawless self. 
• He reminded me that I want NO PART of OneDrive or Google Drive, because the sync process takes too long and leaves your files open to corruption.  Stick to those smaller flash drives.

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[imajeff]

Thanks for the update.

Also if MLO is writing often to the flash drive, I found an article that describes speeding up writes as well as other things to speed it up (these don't matter whether large or small drive)

https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-speed-up-usb-data-transfer/