Hide undated tasks in To Do list

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Holmes245

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Jun 10, 2012, 12:17:18 AM6/10/12
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Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't dated in there as well. I'm not even sure why undated tasks make it into the to do list but maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to do that? Anyone? Anyone? :)

Eberhard

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Go to "Advanced Filtering" and set "DueDateTime" to "exists". That should do the trick.

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Holmes245 <joel....@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't dated in there as well. I'm not even sure why undated tasks make it into the to do list but maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to do that? Anyone? Anyone? :)

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Lisa Stroyan

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Jun 10, 2012, 8:10:13 AM6/10/12
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It's certainly viable to have a particular view, probably a subset of an Active view, that shows you only the tasks with Due dates.  You might want also to look at other ways that would narrow your task list, so that you can use due date only for hard, fixed dates by which a task must be completed.

I believe it is by design that tasks without due dates show up in the various Active views. (To see what makes a task Active, look in the help on the desktop version).  If every task has to have a due date to be actionable, then due dates tend to become artificial and lose their meaning. At the least, they have to be changed a lot as priorities ebb and flow. 

I use Start dates if a task really can only be done in the future. That way it doesn't show up on any of the Active lists. Context, Goal, and Starred are other ways to "slice" the tasklist. On the desktop, there are flags, but they don't transfer to mobile apps (at least not Android).

Hope that helps.

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Holmes245

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Jun 10, 2012, 9:21:45 AM6/10/12
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Thanks Eberhard for taking the time to respond. I wasn't sure how to use the advanced features so I appreciate you letting me know.

Joel


On Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:10:13 AM UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:
It's certainly viable to have a particular view, probably a subset of an Active view, that shows you only the tasks with Due dates.  You might want also to look at other ways that would narrow your task list, so that you can use due date only for hard, fixed dates by which a task must be completed.

I believe it is by design that tasks without due dates show up in the various Active views. (To see what makes a task Active, look in the help on the desktop version).  If every task has to have a due date to be actionable, then due dates tend to become artificial and lose their meaning. At the least, they have to be changed a lot as priorities ebb and flow. 

I use Start dates if a task really can only be done in the future. That way it doesn't show up on any of the Active lists. Context, Goal, and Starred are other ways to "slice" the tasklist. On the desktop, there are flags, but they don't transfer to mobile apps (at least not Android).

Hope that helps.

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Eberhard <dr.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
Go to "Advanced Filtering" and set "DueDateTime" to "exists". That should do the trick.

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Holmes245 <joel....@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't dated in there as well. I'm not even sure why undated tasks make it into the to do list but maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to do that? Anyone? Anyone? :)

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Ron Stockfleth

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Jun 10, 2012, 9:31:57 AM6/10/12
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I confirm that flags do not transfer to the iOS platform either. 

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Hi, Holmes. The filter that Eberhard gave you is correct; I will try to answer your question of why undated tasks would be in the to-do list.

 

My task list before MLO worked on dates. I would have a bunch of tasks due today. I would accomplish as many as I could. Tomorrow, I would start the day rescheduling all of the tasks that I didn’t get to today. Sometimes there were a lot. Some days where I was very behind and did not have a lot of computer time, the only task I would accomplish would be the one about rescheduling overdue tasks.

 

From the book “Getting Things Done” by David Allen, I learned that I was losing productivity by spending unproductive time on list management. Using techniques from that book, I now aim to touch each task just twice, once when I capture it and set it up in my task list, and again when I complete it. One part of getting there is to use “due date” differently – it’s not the date when I hope to do something. It’s the date when it becomes no longer do-able. So, I might have an entry to see an exhibit at a local museum. Due date will be closing day. If I find that task overdue, it means I missed it and should delete the task. Choosing tasks to work on today becomes based on other factors, like what environment I’m in (If I’m in my yard, I will look at tasks with the @yard context) or what tasks have had their prerequisites met, or which of the active tasks has highest priority or urgency. I end up looking at “active tasks by context” a lot. It groups together the tasks with each context and sorts them by “composite score” which is a good but not perfect estimate of which task should go first. Some of the tasks will have dates but most will not.

Holmes245

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Jun 10, 2012, 6:40:02 PM6/10/12
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Thanks Dwight. I'll have to consider that. I've bought David Allen's book but I haven't read it yet but I know I'm not probably using MLO as effectively as I could be so I'll definitely look into that. Thanks.


On Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:40:32 AM UTC-4, Dwight Arthur wrote:

Hi, Holmes. The filter that Eberhard gave you is correct; I will try to answer your question of why undated tasks would be in the to-do list.

 

My task list before MLO worked on dates. I would have a bunch of tasks due today. I would accomplish as many as I could. Tomorrow, I would start the day rescheduling all of the tasks that I didn’t get to today. Sometimes there were a lot. Some days where I was very behind and did not have a lot of computer time, the only task I would accomplish would be the one about rescheduling overdue tasks.

 

From the book “Getting Things Done” by David Allen, I learned that I was losing productivity by spending unproductive time on list management. Using techniques from that book, I now aim to touch each task just twice, once when I capture it and set it up in my task list, and again when I complete it. One part of getting there is to use “due date” differently – it’s not the date when I hope to do something. It’s the date when it becomes no longer do-able. So, I might have an entry to see an exhibit at a local museum. Due date will be closing day. If I find that task overdue, it means I missed it and should delete the task. Choosing tasks to work on today becomes based on other factors, like what environment I’m in (If I’m in my yard, I will look at tasks with the @yard context) or what tasks have had their prerequisites met, or which of the active tasks has highest priority or urgency. I end up looking at “active tasks by context” a lot. It groups together the tasks with each context and sorts them by “composite score” which is a good but not perfect estimate of which task should go first. Some of the tasks will have dates but most will not.

 

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Go to "Advanced Filtering" and set "DueDateTime" to "exists". That should do the trick.

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Holmes245 <joel....@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't dated in there as well. I'm not even sure why undated tasks make it into the to do list but maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to do that? Anyone? Anyone? :)

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Philb

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Jun 11, 2012, 12:47:08 PM6/11/12
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I echo Lisa's comment re checking out the section on "Active tasks" in
the Windows product help. It's a concept you will need to understand
to use MLO effectively.
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> > Go to "Advanced Filtering" and set "DueDateTime" to "exists". That should
> > do the trick.
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> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Holmes245 <joel.fan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do
> > list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't
> > dated in there as well. I'm not even sure why undated tasks make it into
> > the to do list but maybe I'm missing something. Is there a way to do that?
> > Anyone? Anyone? :)
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Holmes245

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Yeah, I'm going to do that. I have felt that I haven't been using it as effectively as I could. Thanks a bunch guys. Great advice. :)
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> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Holmes245 <joel.fan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to  hide tasks that don't have a due date in the To Do
> > list? I've have mine sorted by Due date but I also have tasks that aren't
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