Re: [MLO] Can an MLO desktop File be paired for Wi-Fi sync with more than one mobile device?

[Dwight]

Hi, Greg.
Sorry that I don't know enough about wifi sync to answer the question. And I clearly recognize the advantage of wifi sync over cloud sync, namely the cost. But I wanted to mention that cloud sync would allow your mobile devices to sync with each other through the cloud and the desktop could catch up later, the mobile devices would not have to wait for the desktop.
-Dwight

Greg May <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:

»From the Wi-Fi sync dialog, it appears that am MLO file can only be
»paired
»with one device at a time. I'd like to be able to Wi-Fi sync to both my
»
»iPad and my iPhone, but it looks like there's no way to keep both
»pairings.
»It looks like I would have to sync on one device, unpaid, pair and sync
»the
»other device.
»
»Am I right?
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[Gene Horodecki]

I'd just like to add that I would be interested in proper desktop sync as well.  it is just not a good idea to let others have important data if it can be avoided.  The local sync option is the biggest reason why I started using MLO.  MLO itself is probably a trustworthy party but third parties could host the data.  I currently have two installs syncing two profiles but I only have one device.  this solution would very easily become unworkable.

[Elizabeth Lindsay]

Correct - the desktop can only be paired with one device.  I found that frustrating since I have both a phone and a tablet.  Takes a few steps to unpair / repair, decided to skip it and rarely use tablet.

[Trish Putnam]

This was actually enough of a pain to me that I've started using an alternate solution, even with my investment in MLO.  It's a shame, as I really like the software, but the lack of flexibility for sync options is a deal breaker.
If better options for sync come along I'll reconsider.

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[Nick Clark]

I find the cloud sync solves all these problems. I synchronise many devices, 4 x Android, 1 x iPad and 3 x PCs and all stay perfectly synced. I don't even need to be near the PC or even near the work/home networks to sync, so long as I have an internet connection.
Nick

[Gene Horodecki]

I think many of us realize that the cloud sync can be used with more than one device, but we much prefer to keep our information under our own control. In fact my reason for coming to mlo was the fact that I could sync to a machine in my house, unlike so many other services.

On Oct 12, 2012 4:59 PM, "Nick Clark" <nick.c...@googlemail.com> wrote:

I find the cloud sync solves all these problems. I synchronise many devices, 4 x Android, 1 x iPad and 3 x PCs and all stay perfectly synced. I don't even need to be near the PC or even near the work/home networks to sync, so long as I have an internet connection.
Nick

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[Dwight Arthur]

Malibu & Greg: It seems to me that there is a lot of support for your suggestion among the MLO user community, from the privacy-seekers such as yourself as well as those who want to avoid monthly payments. I think that you should consider writing a proposal on UserVoice and then using this forum to encourage others to vote for your proposal. It does seem as though the scheduled enhancements for desktop MLO are largely drawn from the MLO high vote getters. However, I noticed that the current proposal for privacy seekers, which is for client-side encryption of data prior to cloud sync, only has 5 votes. -Dwight

[Trish Putnam]

Greg, I have an encrypted digital notebook stored on a private server plus my Outlook 2010/Exchange Server (I'm familiar with setting up my Outlook to support GTD time management at a basic level).  While it's not as functional as MLO is and I miss some of the features, I need to be able to efficiently work with whichever of my devices is at hand (home PC, laptop, tablet or phone) and know that the data is properly and safely synced at whatever schedule makes sense. 

 

I appreciate the amount of work that goes into a fine program like MLO, but to me, the ability to adequately sync multiple devices without forcing people to the cloud to do it is basic functionality for a mature task manager.  There are plenty of people and companies who might approve the use of MLO, but would balk at their data being stored in the cloud, for example, regardless of encryption, unless they have control of it.   I actually had a second, entirely separate profile that deals with work, as I have to be aware of NDA and business-sensitive information and handle it differently from my personal profile.  In my case, I would never sync my business profile with the cloud, though I have synced my personal profile occasionally while trying the cloud sync out.  Either way, I need the information from both profiles on multiple devices, and at least part of that data I would not be able to sync via the cloud.

 

I get the value of cloud sync as an option, but 1) I don't think it should be the only workable solution for syncing and 2) if I have already paid for multiple licenses to support my devices, I believe it is ludicrous to charge extra for what is touted as the only way to support such a basic functionality.  Now, if it truly were an option (i.e., Wi-Fi sync worked beautifully for multiple devices) then I could see it as being offered as a subscription add-on for those who want to sync over the air.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Greg May <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Trish, what is your alternate solution?

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[m...@grantsmiths.org]

Trish: you present a very interesting case, and I hope you will not mind if I pump you for a little more information.

 

It sounds as though you have an exchange server running on your premises under your personal control. Is that accurate? If so, I’m surprised because I thought that would be prohibitive in time and expertise required as well as monetary investment. Do you have any comment on this?

 

If your exchange server is operated as a service by someone outside of your premises and control, how do you reconcile synching the kinds of data you would not want on MLO cloud despite encryption?

-Dwight

 

ON: Monday, October 15, 2012 4:51 AM, Trish Putnam wrote
Greg, I have an encrypted digital notebook stored on a private server plus my Outlook 2010/Exchange Server (I'm familiar with setting up my Outlook to support GTD time management at a basic level).  <…>  There are plenty of people and companies who might approve the use of MLO, but would balk at their data being stored in the cloud, for example, regardless of encryption, unless they have control of it. <…>

[Trish Putnam]

You are right, for most people it would probably be prohibitively expensive in both time and money.  In my case, I'm a former Microsoft employee and have access to a certain amount of employee discounts as an alumna.  I have been running my own Small Business Server (which includes Exchange) for years, in part as an exercise to keep my skills up, so for me it's not really any extra overhead from a time or a money perspective - it's not like I set it up just to do time and task management (talk about swatting a fly with a nuclear device! :) ).  That was the primary reason I hadn't really described my alternate methods; it's probably not very useful to most.

 

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[Dwight]

Trish,
Very impressive thanks for the info. When I first left corporate life and found that Outlook tasks were not meeting my needs, one of the alternatives I considered was MS Project. I found that to very the functionality I wanted I would need a Small Business Server in the family room. I felt I could make it work, but there would be a lot of overdue tasks a most of my time would have gone to learning and animating my tools. Sounds like you have that all under control.

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