search and myexperiment with BioVeL

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Carole Goble

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Sep 9, 2013, 4:12:13 AM9/9/13
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I am in http://biovel.myexperiment.org

I search for antonio because I know he has just published a workflow
so I set up Antonio and users and press search

I get thrown out of the BioVeL context into myExperiment full.
I find Antonio Fernandez-Guerra
his workflow is BioVeL skinned


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Stian Soiland-Reyes

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Sep 9, 2013, 6:31:37 AM9/9/13
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This is a tricky area as it touches on theming vs. a separate site.

Arguably the search from the BioVel group could be limited to
people/resources associated with BioVel and should keep the same theme
if that is so.

But if you browse a user, say Alan Williams, do you expect then to
"stay" within BioVel context and not see his other contributions (for
Alan several hundred workflows) on myExperiment? How far is the
'reach' of a theme?

If you see "Alan in BioVel", then you would need a separate page and a
button to "See Alan's other myExperiment contributions" or "See Alan's
general mExperiment profile".


In this approach, I think it would be better to have a whole new set
of URIs below the virtual host. So say
http://biovel.myexperiment.org/users/30.html would only show in green
"BioVel Alan" (if he is a member of BioVel) - and (at least primarily)
only his BioVel contributions.

This would mean that rather than a redirect to the group (as it is
now), the controllers would have to do different things depending on
the virtual host. If you are within http://biovel.myexperiment.org/
and you manage to find a link to my profile (e.g. because I made a
comment on Alan's workflow), then it should go to the
www.myexperiment.org profile and not be in green, as I am not
associated with BioVel. The difficulty becomes defining those borders
of the BioVel context, because it would require transitions on the
links - and it is not always given by the resource itself how it is
involved in a group.
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Carole Goble

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Sep 9, 2013, 6:37:50 AM9/9/13
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Stian

if I was on the BioVeL theme and searched for Alan I would expect to see
- the BioVeL workflows for Alan
- a button or similar that said See other workflows of Alan's that went
to his other workflows

It would be really good if the interaction was based on the
*expectations* of the user
> This is a tricky area as it touches on theming vs. a separate site.
>
> Arguably the search from the BioVel group could be limited to
> people/resources associated with BioVel and should keep the same theme
> if that is so.
>
> But if you browse a user, say Alan Williams, do you expect then to
> "stay" within BioVel context and not see his other contributions (for
> Alan several hundred workflows) on myExperiment? How far is the
> 'reach' of a theme?
>
> If you see "Alan in BioVel", then you would need a separate page and a
> button to "See Alan's other myExperiment contributions" or "See Alan's
> general mExperiment profile
and what is wrong with that?
> ".
>
>
> In this approach, I think it would be better to have a whole new set
> of URIs below the virtual host. So say
> http://biovel.myexperiment.org/users/30.html would only show in green
> "BioVel Alan" (if he is a member of BioVel) - and (at least primarily)
> only his BioVel contributions.
>
> This would mean that rather than a redirect to the group (as it is
> now), the controllers would have to do different things depending on
> the virtual host. If you are within http://biovel.myexperiment.org/
> and you manage to find a link to my profile (e.g. because I made a
> comment on Alan's workflow), then it should go to the
> www.myexperiment.org profile and not be in green, as I am not
> associated with BioVel. The difficulty becomes defining those borders
> of the BioVel context, because it would require transitions on the
> links - and it is not always given by the resource itself how it is
> involved in a group.
OVER COMPLICATED and a computer science viewpoint. And certain to be
unmaintainable

SIMPLE solution please
- biovel workflows
- other workflows link


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