Driving traffic to this new group

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Kevin Powick

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Jan 4, 2012, 9:56:36 AM1/4/12
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Perhaps some effort should be made to raise awareness of this group.  I was thinking that, periodically, a short post could be made to existing MV groups, like CDP, to let people know that this seems to have become the group of choice for general MV information and discussion.  If not the "group of choice", then at least the group where some long time MV users have decided to migrate.

I don't think you want to push too hard, as it could be seen as annoying spam in other groups, but I think that there are some MV people whom infrequently visit MV groups, and might not be aware of the switch for quite some time.

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Dawn Wolthuis

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Jan 4, 2012, 10:35:23 AM1/4/12
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I'm wondering if we could get the U2UG to kill the u2-community list and ask folks to use this list instead. Is there anyone from the U2UG board here that might be game to try that?  --dawn

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Steve Douglas

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Jan 4, 2012, 11:14:20 AM1/4/12
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I started to add it to PickWiki but Tony (I think it was Tony) had beaten me to the punch.
 
How about Nathan at Spectrum?  Could we get him to add it to one of his new letters?
 
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Symeon Breen

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Jan 4, 2012, 11:34:39 AM1/4/12
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Tony did post into the u2ug mail list.  I think it is the most active MV list out there and certainly represents the bulk of all MV people. In the past there has been a lot of opposition to moving it to a google group – even tho it still has mail list functionality just the same as it has now …


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Dick Thiot

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Jan 4, 2012, 11:43:48 AM1/4/12
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Just ask him.

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Dawn Wolthuis

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Jan 4, 2012, 11:49:10 AM1/4/12
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Yes, I wasn't even going to go there re the u2-users list, but they have a u2-community list that was developed because there were people on the u2-users list who wanted "pure" technical questions at a detail level, so they wanted to squash questions from folks like me about database theory, history, etc. That u2-community list has not been highly active, so I suspect they could ask the subscribers to sign up for this list and then kill that one, but I don't know that -- just a thought.  --dawn

Tony Gravagno

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Jan 4, 2012, 1:29:21 PM1/4/12
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Marketing for this group has proceeded in a "measured" manner,
exactly as Kevin suggests. I've been careful about being too
aggressive, and don't want people to regard this as a "Tony
thing".

Notices have been published in these forums: TigerLogic
(D3/mvBase), Reality, jBase, Caché, U2 (tech, not community)

Soon: QM, OpenInsight, LinkedIn (a few groups)

For two months I plan to post one brief reply to the above
notices, just as a courteous but non-spammy reminder.

I also worked up a press release for Spectrum, in collaboration
with David Ruggiero (creator of CDP), though I haven't sent it in
yet. They are mid-cycle and there isn't any rush.

Twitter is another venue for notifications - Elkie and I have
tweeted with hash tags #mvdbms and #multivalue.

And yes, I updated PickWiki.

I will not post notes to third-party product forums as I think
anyone in one of those groups is likely to also be subscribed to
a DBMS forum.

Over time I will encourage the DBMS providers to notify their
channel of the existence of this forum. I'm hoping they see it
as an environment which properly represents their industry, and
one which will add value to their offering.

Finally, in another thread here soon, I will recommend that VARs
begin to invite their end-user base to this forum for the same
reasons as above.

That's my personal plan. Suggestions are welcome as well as
personal initiatives - this does after all belong to everyone.

I see Dawn posted a note to the MultiValue Google Group.
Thanks Dawn!!


The LinkedIn groups are quite large, surprising to me. I don't
intend to try to draw those people here as an alternative, but to
make this a supplemental resource.

And that is exactly the way I have been pitching this to the DBMS
forums. MVDBMS is a central hub to augment other media, not to
replace others - except of course for CDP which has been begging
for retirement for a few years now.

If the U2-Community people are still talking about Pick, then
sure, we can invite them here. If that's a social outlet for
colleagues I'd rather see this forum maintain a more
business/technical (=valuable) orientation.

Did I miss any points?

Thanks for the note, Kevin!
T

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