Re: ZEV tire inflation service station rules for CA

[Bruce England]

Hello all:
See below for feedback from the state on this topic. I'd like to follow-up with Assyperson Fong and Senator Eshoo, but I'm interested in knowing if any of you would care to join forces on this front.
Bye for now!
Bruce

-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Gary Castro <GCa...@cdfa.ca.gov>
>Sent: Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM
>To: bken...@earthlink.net
>Subject: Mr. England,
>
>Mr. England,
>
>The Division of Measurement ensures, by means of routine inspections, that the motoring public has available free air and water at stations that provide motor vehicle fuel to their customers who purchase fuel. As was correctly noted, the code does not address vehicles that run on alternative fuels or electric vehicles. The Division does not have the authority to alter the provisions of this code. However, if you wish to have this law amended to include these types of vehicles, please contact your State legislator and have them propose a change to the existing code requirement.
>
>Feel free to contact me if you need additional information.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Gary Castro
>Chief
>Weighmaster/Petroleum Branch
>Phone: (916) 229-3049
>gca...@cdfa.ca.gov
>
>
>
>
>*******************************
>Original message:
>
>Hello:
>
>According to the following State code:
>13651. (a) (1) On and after January 1, 2000, every service station
>in this state shall provide, during operating hours, and make
>available at no cost to customers who purchase motor vehicle fuel,
>water, compressed air, and a gauge for measuring air pressure, to the
>public for use in servicing any passenger vehicle, as defined in
>Section 465 of the Vehicle Code, or any commercial vehicle, as
>defined in Section 260 of the Vehicle Code, with an unladen weight of
>6,000 pounds or less.
>
>But this omits the increasing number of vehicles that do not run on
>fuel sold at gas stations (such as electric vehicles). What is the
>State doing to address this new need for so-called zero emissions
>vehicle owners?
>
>Thanks!
>Bruce England
>Mountain View
>
>

[Shirley Ingalls]

Bruce,

Since James Kempf now possesses an electric vehicle maybe he would join you.  I don't think he's on the transportation google groups list.

Shirley

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From: Bruce England <bken...@earthlink.net>
To: mvenvtransport <mv-sust-task-for...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:27:57 PM
Subject: Re: ZEV tire inflation service station rules for CA

[Bruce England]

Thanks, Shirley. James is, however, on the dlist, though I'm not 100% sure he's still reading the postings.

On another note, I understand that I was appointed as the "alternate" to the BPAC, which is probably not the best news in terms of our pushing ahead with our walkability recommendations. I don't know who, other than the two presumed reappointments, was newly appointed, but only one other person of nine interviewed expressed a strong interest in focussing on walkability. More to come on this, I'm sure.

Bye for now!
Bruce

[James Kempf]

Bruce, all,

 

I'm still on the list.

 

I'm not sure I understand the point of your query. Do you want these services also provided at electric charging points for electric vehicles?

 

Back in the 90's, Sun set up two electric charging points for EV1s. If such a law were in effect, it would require employeers to put in water, air for tires, winshield washing, etc., which I think would probably cause employeers to not provide electrical outlets. Since electric cars typically have much limited range, this would tend to hinder the use of electric cars. So I don't see the point of amending the law in this way (if that is, in fact, what you meant).

 

              jak

 

PS: This doesn't apply to my plug-in Prius, since it will switch over to hybrid mode when the Hymotion battery runs out.

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From: Shirley Ingalls <inga...@yahoo.com>
To: mv-sust-task-for...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:40:01 PM

[Bruce England]

Thanks, James. This actullly refers to gas stations that have the air compressors available. Personally, I'd like to see a requirement for *all* gas stations to have air compressors available to customers as a condition for their business licences, but I don't suppose that's very likely to happen.
Cheers!
Bruce

-----Original Message----- Thanks, James. This actually refers to gas stations that have the air compressors available. Personally, I'd like to see a requirement for *all* gas stations to have air compressors available to customers as a condition for their business licences, but I don't suppose that's very likely to happen.
Cheers!
Bruce
From: James Kempf
Sent: Dec 10, 2008 5:54 PM
To: mv-sust-task-for...@googlegroups.com