Patents of Music Notation

[Ginger Dellenbaugh]

Dear Members of the Group,

I am a researcher looking to get in contact with music notation inventors who have patented, or are thinking about patenting, their inventions. The notation can be a stand-alone invention, or part of another invention (like a music notation for a novel instrument).  I am interested in getting feedback from inventors at any stage in this process.

More information and contact information can be found at the following website:

https://notationpatents.wixsite.com/website

If you have any questions, there is a contact form on the website.

I really look forward to hearing from you!

Best,

Ginger Dellenbaugh

[Stephen Lafleur]

Ms. Dellenbaugh,

I see this is for Yale Department of Music - I have contacted you regarding my Text Format Music.

[Pashkuli Keyboard]

Patenting a Music notation is a big selfish endeavour.
All Music notation should be free to use and modify.

That is why my PMN is a open source project.

http://musicnotation.org/wiki/notation-systems/plain-music-notation-system-by-pashkuli/

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[Ginger Dellenbaugh]

Thank you to those who have already contacted me!  While I am only concentrating on patents at this point, I hope to expand my research to include other notation innovations and inventions once my dissertation is complete.

In this regard, I would be grateful for any notation inventor to answer the non-patent portions of my questionnaire about background and motivation.  This would ideally be part of a post-doc project.

Thanks again-

Ginger Dellenbaugh

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[Third Eagle Books]

Hi Ginger,

When I tried to patent my music notation system 50 years ago, they said since it was printed matter could only be copyrighted unless it was associated with some kind of mechanical device. 

If you want to learn about my system, "Gabriel Music Notation", visit my website, thirdeaglemedia.com under the music tab or visit my "thirdeaglebooks" Youtube channel and look at the Gabriel Music Notation playlist.

It was also written up in Contemporary Keyboard Magazine, November/December 1975, and can be found in Gardner Read's book, "Source Book of Proposed Music Notation Reforms". 

William Tapley

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[John Keller]

Hi William,

Your post reminded me of previously finding your notation and how it has properties similar to my own, Express Stave.

I may have asked before, but can you automatically transform notation into Gabriel? I do it via Finale.

I just read your pdf entitled "Completed Guide with Diagrams” and now understand that sharps and flats are written differently.

Sharps are the diamond shapes while flats are rhomboids (same shapes but rotated). 

I would consider this unnecessary, however I do understand from the point that you can name notes so as to agree with TN.

On the last page I did notice a mistake in the positioning of the F sharps.

Your notation should be listed on the website if it isnt already.

Best regards,

John Keller

 

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[Third Eagle Books]

Hi John, 

Thanks for your comments. Yes, I hired a developer to design a program to automatically translate standard notation into Gabriel notation with just a few clicks. It cost me quite a bit of money but it was worth it. All the Christmas Carols, for example, under the "music" tab on my website are examples of its output. It was a lot of hard work for the engineer since he had to design the staff and the sharp and flat note heads from scratch. The TN designed notes are from LilyPond. I tried to keep the "look" of traditional notation as much as possible. I hope to put out a video this week explaining this new capability.

Thanks for pointing out the F sharp errors. I should let my notation program do all my illustrations. It never makes the kind of mistakes that can creep into my hand drafting skills.

I differentiated between sharp and flat shapes since TN also differentiates between them although not in the same way.  I admit, that it is not necessary for keyboard music. I have changed the double flat and double sharp note heads slightly as you can see in the Christmas carols. I think note heads with dots inserted look better.

If the managers of this website want to list my Gabriel notation they are more than welcome. In the meantime, anyone can visit my thirdeaglemedia.com website and look under the music tab for more info. All my music can be downloaded free for individual use but not for commercial usage.

Sincerely,

William Tapley

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[John Keller]

Hi William,

I looked at some of the Christmas carols and was rather disappointed that they have all minor thirds (3 semitones) as notes on opposite sides of stems.

In your previous transcriptions and the guide, you show how simple chords are neatly stacked notes but with minor and major thirds distinguished.

(Exactly the same interval spacing as in Express Stave.)

I think you should keep this so as to make all intervals and chord shapes close to traditional. Only major and minor 2nds using cross stem notes.

Did you change your mind on this, or was it the programmer’s decision?

Will the conversion program be available to others? What form of TN music file does it start with ?

Also, regarding the more complex accidentals (white key sharps, white as well as black double sharps etc) i am not sure about the solutions.

Cheers,

John Keller

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[Third Eagle Books]

Hi John,

This is my second response to you but it looks as if my first did not go through. You are correct, in my book, "All Keys Are Easy" (which can be found under the music tab on my thirdeaglemedia.com website), I placed both minor and major third note heads on the same stem side. Minor third note heads were tangent above each other while there was a small gap between major third note heads.  I planned on the same design for the computer program but LilyPond told my programmer that it was not possible. He thought he could come up with a work-around but it would take time and there was no guarantee. So I told him, let's make the note heads ten per cent larger instead. That way, the major third note heads are tangent to each other and the music turns out to be more visible. I have been practicing with this arrangement and it seems to work just fine, maybe even a little better. Try it out and let me know what you think. 

As far as the program being available to others my programmer suggested that I should contact an attorney. In the meantime, if anyone has a particular piece they would like to see transcribed into my system just let me know and I will try to accommodate them.

My program uses XML files which I get from sheet music websites or from scanned music in my library.

Regarding double sharps and flats I have tried several versions over the years and I think the current dot style works best.

Thanks for your interest in Gabriel music notation and I hope this message goes through.

Sincerely yours,

William Tapley

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