TN to AN programs

[Bob Stuckey]

Hi All,

I am looking for someone to come up with a program that will convert a traditional notation into an alternative notation ID-Head (see my presentation on 2 Jan 2026).

John T noticed that William Tapley had commisioned such a pregrams for his Gabriel Notation. 

William, I hope you are reading this. I visited your website but could not find how to email you directly. Hence I am contacting you via the googlegroup. You comissioned such a program in the 70s. Is the programmer still in business?

Meanwhile below is  the Chopin piece that inspired you find an easier way to show what notes to play.Its in C# mnor with a vist to Db major in the middle and displayed in Synthesia, a popular rendering. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUT_0c2QVzo&list=RDSUT_0c2QVzo&start_radio=1

Bob

[John F]

Bob, if you get conversation posts in your email, I think all you have to do is Reply to one from a poster, rather than "Reply to mailing list" or "Reply all" (etc., depending on your email app) for it to go just to that person. There's also a drop-down - vertical three dots icon - in the browser when I'm on here, which has "Reply to author". That might work for you, but for some reason it's greyed out for me (but I have various privacy apps running).

John F

[Bob Stuckey]

thanks John,

It seems that William Tyndale has not emailed the group in a while.

Bob

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[Third Eagle Books]

Hello, Bob Stuckey,

I commissioned my Gabriel notation program just a few years ago through Toptal who found a computer programmer in Europe who also played in a symphony orchestra and who also wrote and spoke English. So I was very lucky he was interested in my project although the cost was exorbitant: $32K. Of course, he also designed the rectangular notes for me so if you use only standard notes in your system the cost might be a little less.

Also, someone else asked me about why I used the two narrow staff subdivisions to register the three black key keyboard grouping and the wide subdivision to register the smaller two black key keyboard grouping and I hope to do a video this week end to explain which I will post on Youtube under my "thirdeaglebooks" channel.

William Tapley

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[Bob Stuckey]

Thankyou, William, for this inside information, including the cost of subcontracting (!), which must be of interest to all the inventors of this group. A touch of reality.

None the less I would like to get a quote from Toptal. Could you send his contact details?

Bob

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[Third Eagle Books]

Toptal is a talent search company. They will put you in touch with the talent you want. There are other talent search companies also like Upwork. Just Google Toptal or Upwork etc.

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[Joseph Austin]

William,

As the one who asked the question, I'm looking forward to your video on the line grouping.

Do you offer a service to convert any conventional notation (pdf, MIDI, MusicXML, Lilypond, Musescore, Finale, etc.) to Gabriel?

Joseph Austin

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[Third Eagle Books]

Hello, Joseph,

I'm working on your video right now. Hopefully I can get it done tomorrow. As far as converting other notations into Gabriel no, I do not offer that service at this time.

William.

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[John Keller]

I can convert TN to Express Stave for any piece you want!

cheers

John Keller

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