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Alexandre Quessy

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Jan 27, 2009, 4:27:13 PM1/27/09
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Hi everyone,
Are sound files supported by the Muse III platform ?
If not, I think it would be trivial to implement it.
I don't see them as a tab in the SIFT Tool web site.

I think that sound is a very good medium to be used with a cellphone.
There are plenty of artistic projects involving user contributed sounds
that can be thought of.
I know several people at SAT and other places who would be very enthusiastic
about using Muse III to retrieve user contributed sounds.
I would be trivial for us to include sound files in the RawMaterials component,
if SIFT provides it in its feeds.

Thank you.
Regards,

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Jim Udall

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Jan 28, 2009, 2:16:52 PM1/28/09
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In principle a reasonable idea – in practice I’m not sure how that will work.  SIFT mines common public sites for media source (e.g. Flickr/youtub).  Are there similar repositories (with meta-data) for audio as well?

 

I’m all over the audio and cellphone thing.  We’d have to write a VoiceXML component to record input and deliver it to SIFT…. But that’s no biggie.  The real question is where does the Internet content come from?

 

Jim

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Jean Hébert

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Jan 28, 2009, 2:33:44 PM1/28/09
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Public repositories - if it's RSS you need then maybe Hypemachine (http://hypem.com) - or last.fm (http://last.fm). That'd be cool if SIFT could mine these (which are also abundantly tagged, are extensible, etc.)

I *think* what Alexandre is getting at is some form of submission of audio clips recorded on mobiles, though - am I right? AFAIK there is no cellular protocol for this apart from VoiceXML. But I've only experienced VoiceXML at very low bitrates - high enough to make voices decipherable, but crap for music and sound art.

Is audio bitrate flexible in this way with VoiceXML (does VXML care)? Would it just be a matter of server storage space (with the larger audio files)?

Jean

Jim Udall

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Jan 28, 2009, 3:08:06 PM1/28/09
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Well you could encode at whatever bit rate you want using whatever audio encoder you want.  The problem is you have to remember the source:  Specifically it will by something like AMR or QCELP – both of which are low bit rate encoders designed for cellular phones.  Re-encode a crappy AMR stream into 1 384kpbs MP3 stream will help not in the slightest.

 

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Roland Tanglao

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Jan 28, 2009, 3:10:32 PM1/28/09
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well i am not sure of the use case (but i could guess at a few, rather
not guess though)
i'd love to see one documented, alexandre (diagram handdrawn or
otherwise would be the best methinks!)
anyways if somebody gives me RSS feeds with meta data and audio
enclosures
i'll see if i can configure SIFT to accept RSS with MP3 enclosure
(since this is not funded, if i can't get it done in 1 hour of my time
or if it involves coding, it won't be done)

I just did a quick look at last.fm
and there are no enclosures with MP3 music files nor are there links
to where you can stream the file
e.g. http://ws.audioscrobbler.com/1.0/user/counti8/recenttracks.rss
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Tylor Sherman

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Jan 28, 2009, 3:46:00 PM1/28/09
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Roland, I was thinking of Utterli (formerly Utterz) for RSS with an
MP3 enclosure, here's an example of Boris's utter feed:

http://www.utterli.com/u/rss/bmann

Tylor

Alexandre Quessy

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Jan 28, 2009, 6:06:47 PM1/28/09
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Hi everyone,
The simplest use case I am thinking of is sending a MMS containing an audio file recorded on the cell phone.

Together with geo tagging, there can be very nice maps of a city made with this.
Podcast are media RSS containing usually audio files. There are plenty of those.

A


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