Apple Apps with Apple School Manager on Mac OS

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Gunderson, Greg

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Dec 15, 2021, 8:50:33 AM12/15/21
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We recently moved to ASM, mostly for iOS and SSO (we are using Mosyle free for iOS for our MDM so I'm good on iOS).  I have always done everything on the Mac side with Munki.  I need to deploy Pages, Numbers, Keynote, and iMovie to our Macbooks.  Is there a way to add my Munki server to ASM so that I can deploy apps to my Macs?  Because our Apple IDs and our devices are  now managed by ASM, I'm not sure how to deploy apps that I "purchase" through ASM.  We currently manage about 300 for our staff.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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Ben Toms

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Dec 15, 2021, 9:11:28 AM12/15/21
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You deploy apps purchased via ASM to devices through an MDM, not munki

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sondjata olatunji

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Dec 15, 2021, 9:13:41 AM12/15/21
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You can do it either way. The purchaser info is embeded in the downloaded file. Munki will install it and the app store, if invoked will recognize the account used to purchase the app(s).


Mike Solin

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Dec 15, 2021, 10:18:29 AM12/15/21
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Alexander (Mailing List) Taylor

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Dec 15, 2021, 11:05:04 AM12/15/21
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Hi Greg,

I do this in a hybrid approach now.  We have our iOS devices managed through ASM and Intune, and have our Macs enroll to Intune as well.  They get various configuration profiles that way.  Quite helpful since the latest macOS versions don’t allow profile installs through Munki.  One of those profiles are the configuration for our Munki environment.

Taking things one step further, I use InstallApplications (https://github.com/macadmins/installapplications) to have Intune push Munki to our Macs on first boot so everything starts out with as little interaction as possible.

Any apps purchased through ASM can be installed through your MDM.  Macs and iPads work mostly the same in that regard.  They need to be enrolled, and then the MDM assigns the license.  You don’t need Munki for that part.  On the Macs, you can use Munki to install any non-app store application, or even wrapped apps purchased through the App Store.

Alexander


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Nick McSpadden

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Dec 15, 2021, 11:05:51 AM12/15/21
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An important caveat to distributing App Store apps through Munki: Munki is not an MDM, does not talk to Apple's VPP program at all. Distributing software using the AppStoreApp.munki recipe does not in any way validate that you have sufficient licenses or commercial agreements necessary to distribute. It also doesn't (generally) let people adopt their own copies via the App Store, and if the copy that you upload to Munki is registered to another account already, it's likely that clients will see it in the App Store but be unable to update it (at least, this is what happened in the past).

Just be mindful that the behavior is very different in Munki vs. App Store accounting.



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