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Re: FYI: Versatel ordnet sich neu

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Torsten Driese

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Jan 18, 2008, 1:23:19 PM1/18/08
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Martin Schnitkemper schrieb:
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/101961
>
> | Das Unternehmen plant, bestimmte Aufgaben in der Düsseldorfer Zentrale zu
> | bündeln, einige Niederlassungen zu schließen und rund 200 Arbeitsplätze
> | abzubauen.
> ....
> | Die Straffung der Organisation bedeutet das Aus für sechs Standorte. Bis
> | Ende 2010 sollen die Niederlassungen in München, Saarbrücken, Münster,
> | Wuppertal, Dresden und Jena geschlossen werden.
>
>
mein Anschluss bei denen wird auch geschlossen... habe Gott sei Dank nur
noch 6 Monate Restlaufzeit

Friedemann Stoyan

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Jan 18, 2008, 1:39:20 PM1/18/08
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Torsten Driese wrote:

> mein Anschluss bei denen wird auch geschlossen... habe Gott sei Dank nur
> noch 6 Monate Restlaufzeit

Mal so aus Neugier: Wer soll der neue Carrier werden?


mfg Friedemann

Torsten Driese

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Jan 18, 2008, 2:46:59 PM1/18/08
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Friedemann Stoyan schrieb:
wieso wusste ich, dass diese frage kommen wird? *g*
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Philipp Kolloczek

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Jan 21, 2008, 8:50:53 AM1/21/08
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Moin.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:36:20 +0100, Martin Schnitkemper
<news.trash...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:

>Mir tun vor allen Dingen die citykom-Mitarbeiter leid, die in Münster vor
>Jahren eine eigene Infrastruktur aufgebaut und damit bezahlbare
>Internetzugänge geschaffen haben, und die jetzt wohl auf der Straße stehen.

Danke für diese Anteilnahme. ;)
Aber der Standort Münster ist nun seit gut 1.5 Jahren nur noch ein
kleiner Bürostandort für den Vertrieb / Feldservice. Die "Technik"
pendelt schon länger nach Dortmund und die Infrastruktur für die
Zugänge und Co steht auch weiter in Münster.

>Aber Versatel selber ist ja auch schon Übernahmekandidat und wird irgendwann
>von United Internet geschluckt. Vielleicht rollen dann auch mal ein paar
>Köpfe in den Vorstandsetagen.

Klingt marketingmäßig, aber mit United-Internet gibt es interessante
Möglichkeiten. Aber ob dort genügen Liquidität vorhanden ist um die
Versatel zu übernehmen und nicht nur die Sperminorität auszubauen
halte ich für fraglich.

Gruß
Philipp

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Philipp Kolloczek

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Jan 24, 2008, 3:31:08 PM1/24/08
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and often bad ventures, etc., I have discovered that all the unhappiness of
men arises from one single fact, that they cannot stay quietly in their own
chamber. A man who has enough to live on, if he knew how to stay with
pleasure at home, would not leave it to go to sea or to besiege a town. A
commission in the army would not be bought so dearly, but that it is found
insufferable not to budge from the town; and men only seek conversation and
entering games, because they cannot remain with pleasure at home.

But, on further consideration, when, after finding the cause of all our
ills, I have sought to discover the reason of it, I have found that there is
one very real reason, namely, the natural poverty of our feeble and mortal
condition, so miserable that nothing can comfort us when we think of it
closely.

Whatever condition we picture to ourselves, if we muster all the good things
which it is possible to possess, royalty is the finest position in the
world. Yet, when we imagine a king attended with every pleasure he can feel,
if he be without diversion and be left to consider and reflect on what he
is, th


Torsten Driese

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Jan 24, 2008, 4:19:05 PM1/24/08
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Jews and Christians know
the same God.

The Jews were of two kinds; the first had only heathen affections, the other
had Christian affections.

609. There are two kinds of men in each religion: among the heathen,
worshippers of beasts and the worshippers of the one only God of natural
religion; among the Jews, the carnal, and the spiritual, who were the
Christians of the old law; among Christians, the coarser-minded, who are the
Jews of the new law. The carnal Jews looked for a carnal Messiah; the
coarser Christians believe that the Messiah has dispensed them from the love
of God; true Jews and true Christians worship a Messiah who makes them love
God.

610. To show that the true Jews and the true Christians have but the same
religion.--The religion of the Jews seemed to consist essentially in the
fatherhood of Abraham, in circumcision, in sacrifices, in ceremonies, in the
Ark, in the temple, in Jerusalem, and, finally, in the law, and in the
covenant with Moses.

I say that it consisted in none of those things, but only in the love of
God, and that God disregarded all the other things.

That God did not accept the posterity of Abraham.

That the Jews were to be punished like strangers, if they transgressed.
Deut. 8:19: "If thou do at all forget the Lord thy God, and walk after other
gods, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish, as the
nations which the Lord destroyeth before your face."

That strangers, if they loved God, were to be received by Him as the Jews.
Isaiah 56:3: "Let not the stranger say, 'The Lord will not receive me.' The
strangers who join themselves unto the Lord to serve Him and love Him, will
I bring unto my holy mountain, and accept therein sacrifices, for mine house
is a house of prayer."

That the true Jews considered their merit to be from God only, and not from
Abraham. Isaiah 63:16: "Doubtless thou art our Father, though Abraham be
ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not. Thou art our F


Torsten Driese

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Jan 24, 2008, 1:06:41 PM1/24/08
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the fourth monarchy. How lucky we are to see this
light amidst this darkness!

How fine it is to see, with the eyes of faith, Darius and Cyrus, Alexander,
the Romans, Pompey and Herod working, without knowing it, for the glory of
the Gospel!

702. Zeal of the Jewish people for the law, especially after there were no
more prophets.

703. While the prophets were for maintaining the law, the people were
indifferent. But, since there have been no more prophets, zeal has succeeded
them.

704. The devil troubled the zeal of the Jews before Jesus Christ, because he
would have been their salvation, but not since.

The Jewish people scorned by the Gentiles; the Christian people persecuted.

705. Proof.--Prophecies with their fulfilment; what has preceded and what
has followed Jesus Christ.

706. The prophecies are the strongest proof of Jesus Christ. It is for them
also that God has made most provision; for the event which has fulfilled
them is a miracle existing since the birth of the Church to the end. So God
has raised up prophets during sixteen hundred years, and, during four
hundred years afterwards, He has scattered all these prophecies among all
the Jews, who carried them into all parts of the world. Such was the
preparation for the birth of Jesus Christ, and, as His Gospel was to be
believed by all the world, it was not only necessary that there should be
prophecies to make it believed, but that these prophecies should exist
throughout the whole world, in order to make it embraced by the whole world.

707. But it was not enough that the prophecies should exist. It was
necessary that they should be distributed throughout all places and
preserved throughout all times. A


Martin Schnitkemper

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Jan 24, 2008, 4:14:00 PM1/24/08
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that so
strength may be given to lowliness.

234. If we must not act save on a certainty, we ought not to act on
religion, for it is not certain. But how many things we do on an
uncertainty, sea voyages, battles! I say then we must do nothing at all, for
nothing is certain, and that there is more certainty in religion than there
is as to whether we may see to-morrow; for it is not certain that we may see
to-morrow, and it is certainly possible that we may not, see it. We cannot
say as much about religion. It is not certain that it is; but who will
venture to say that it is certainly possible that it is not? Now when we
work for to-morrow, and so on an uncertainty, we act reasonably; for we
ought to work for an uncertainty according to the doctrine of chance which
was demonstrated above.

Saint Augustine has seen that we work for an uncertainty, on sea, in battle,
etc. But he has not seen the doctrine of chance which proves that we should
do so. Montaigne has seen that we are shocked at a fool, and that habit is
all-powerful; but he has not seen the reason of this effect.

All these persons have seen the effects, but they have not seen the causes.
They are, in comparison with those who have disc


Friedemann Stoyan

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Jan 24, 2008, 1:01:40 PM1/24/08
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multitudine
laudetur.56

Mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac.57

364. Rarum est enim ut satis se quisque vereatur.58

Tot circa unum caput tumultuantes deos.59

Nihil turpius quam cognitioni assertionem praecurrere.60

Nec me pudet, ut istos, fateri nescire quid nesciam.61

Melius non incipient.62

365. Thought.--All the dignity of man consists in thought. Thought is,
therefore, by its nature a wonderful and incomparable thing. It must have
strange defects to be contemptible. But it has such, so that nothing is more
ridiculous. How great it is in its nature! How vile it is in its defects!

But what is this thought? How foolish it is!

366. The mind of this sovereign judge of the world is not so independent
that it is not liable to be disturbed by the first din about it. The noise
of a cannon is not necessary to hinder its thoughts; it needs only the
creaking of a weathercock or pulley. Do not wonder if at present it does not
reason well; a fly is buzzing in its ears; that is enough to render it
incapable of good judgement. If you wish it to be able to reach the truth,
chase away that animal which holds its reason in check and disturbs that
powerful intellect which rules towns and kingdoms. Here is a comical god! O
ridicolosissimo eroe!

367. The power of flies; they win battles, hinder our soul from acting, eat
our body.

368. When it is said that


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