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whitebread

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:57:09 PM11/5/09
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> John Fleming wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
>> desk in the scriptorium Robert Peffers
>> <auldbobp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Peffers, has it ever occurred to you that criminals don't
>> bother registering their firearms?

"Canuck57" <Canu...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:uT4Hm.537$hJ2...@newsfe13.iad...
> That little fact that people like Peffers and Liberals in general seem to conveniently
> deny realizing has cost Canadian axpayers billions for nothing.


The Harper government cares NOTHING about taxpayer costs for ANY program. He strongest
supporters are gun nuts, corporations, and pro-military types. All of his government
policies will cater to those groups as a federal election looms.

And here's an example - from the police chief of a major city that knows too well the
importance of knowing who has what guns. . . . .

http://www.cbc.ca/video/img/cbccavideo.gif

Montreal police chief defends gun registry
Last Updated: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 | 8:00 PM ET Comments80Recommend9
The Canadian Press
The plan to kill the federal long-gun registry is stirring emotional responses in Montreal
as the 20th anniversary of the �cole Polytechnique massacre approaches.

With the future of the firearms registry up for a free vote Wednesday in the House of
Commons, Montreal's police chief pleaded with politicians to keep it alive.

In a rare political statement issued from his office, Yvan Delorme cited a specific case
where the registry may have helped Montreal officers prevent another gun rampage.

He made his plea on the same day that a gun victim's mother was published in an open
letter urging politicians to support the registry.

Dec. 6 will mark the 20th anniversary of the Polytechnique rampage, where gunman Marc
L�pine stormed into a university with a rifle, killed 14 female students, and wounded 27
other people.

Delorme stressed that the registry was inspired by the Polytechnique massacre � and he
said all the money spent to create the registry would be completely wasted if it were
eliminated.

He dismissed critics who have called the registry a billion-dollar boondoggle.

"Its existence is essential, primarily for security reasons, but also because the
investments already made would be entirely wasted," Delorme said.

"Yes, the registry could be improved but we consider it an important tool to minimize the
risks associated with guns."

Delorme described how, shortly after the 2007 Dawson College shooting, police received a
report that another individual had been making similar threats.

The registry alerted officers that this person actually owned several guns � which
officers seized, Delorme said.

Mother of Polytechnique victim makes plea
The mother of Anne-Marie Edward, one of the women gunned down at Polytechnique, said
Tuesday that she's disappointed the Conservatives have dedicated so much energy to
eliminating the registry.

"Shoulder firearms kill just like handguns," Suzanne Laplante-Edward, who passionately
campaigned for the creation of the registry, wrote in a published letter.

Laplante-Edward recalled how she travelled to Ottawa in the spring to remind
parliamentarians of the kind of devastation a single rifle can inflict in just 22 minutes.

She recalled how both NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff
personally promised her they would stop Prime Minister Stephen Harper from abolishing the
registry.

Now, Laplante-Edward said she's disappointed that neither the NDP nor the Liberals appear
prepared to vote down the private member's bill introduced by Tory MP Candice Hoeppner.

The opposition parties are mainly allowing their members to vote freely on the issue. In
the meantime, the Conservatives are spending money on ads in rural ridings to pressure MPs
to vote along with them.

"It's clear that the Canadian firearms lobby [like the American NRA] and the Conservatives
have lots of money to spend for campaigns and advertisements," she wrote.


coreyd

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Nov 6, 2009, 6:59:07 PM11/6/09
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On Nov 5, 8:57 pm, "whitebread" <whitebr...@shop.ca> wrote:
> > John Fleming wrote:
> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> >> desk in the scriptorium Robert Peffers
> >> <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >> Peffers, has it ever occurred to you that criminals don't
> >> bother registering their firearms?
> "Canuck57" <Canuc...@nospam.com> wrote in messagenews:uT4Hm.537$hJ2...@newsfe13.iad...

> > That little fact that people like Peffers and Liberals in general seem to conveniently
> > deny realizing has cost Canadian axpayers billions for nothing.
>
> The Harper government cares NOTHING about taxpayer costs for ANY program.  He strongest
> supporters are gun nuts, corporations, and pro-military types.  All of his government
> policies will cater to those groups as a federal election looms.
>
> And here's an example - from the police chief of a major city that knows too well the
> importance of knowing who has what guns. . . . .
>
>                http://www.cbc.ca/video/img/cbccavideo.gif
>
> Montreal police chief defends gun registry
> Last Updated: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 | 8:00 PM ET Comments80Recommend9
> The Canadian Press
> The plan to kill the federal long-gun registry is stirring emotional responses in Montreal
> as the 20th anniversary of the École Polytechnique massacre approaches.

>
> With the future of the firearms registry up for a free vote Wednesday in the House of
> Commons, Montreal's police chief pleaded with politicians to keep it alive.
>
> In a rare political statement issued from his office, Yvan Delorme cited a specific case
> where the registry may have helped Montreal officers prevent another gun rampage.
>
> He made his plea on the same day that a gun victim's mother was published in an open
> letter urging politicians to support the registry.
>
> Dec. 6 will mark the 20th anniversary of the Polytechnique rampage, where gunman Marc
> Lépine stormed into a university with a rifle, killed 14 female students, and wounded 27

The long gun registry was put into place with a promise of protecting
people from criminals. How well did this work at Dawson College? How
well did this work for Daniel Tessier? How well did this work for four
RCMP officers in Mayerthorpe? The gun registry is a complete failure.
It's a waste of money. Has anyone noticed that the 2 most publicized
shooting rampages have both happened in Quebec? Maybe we need to focus
on why these people did what they did instead of punishing the rest of
Canada which includes firearms owners.

You talk about how much money the gun lobby has, well the gun lobby
hasn't been given near a half of a million dollars like Wendy Cukier
has. Give us the same amount of money you give her! You can only dance
on the coffins of the victims for so long. Remember... Wendy's beloved
gun registry was supposed to prevent things like Dawson College, it
didn't.

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