MSstatsTMT with Phospho-enrichment

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Talia Head

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Dec 17, 2024, 5:33:31 PM12/17/24
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I have a TMT-10plex labeled total proteome sample split into 8 fractions, and a subset of the same sample run through phospho-enrichment as just one sample (completed before fractionation of the total proteome, no subsequent fractions of the phospho-enriched sample).

In the annotation file, do I list the run from the phospho-enriched sample as fraction 9? It is from the same mixture as the global proteome.

Or should I list it as a second mixture, even though it is technically the same, in order to compare the phospho data to the total proteome?

I have two different conditions within the 10-plex samples and am mostly interested in comparing phosphorylation between the two conditions.

Thanks for any advice!

Devon Kohler

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Dec 24, 2024, 9:01:26 AM12/24/24
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Hello,

This is actually a unique case that MSstats is not designed to handle; you will probably need to do some manual work to do the analysis.

You could certainly treat it as a 9th fraction, in this case the MSstats converter would just include all the phospho-enriched peptides with the total proteome samples. If you want to model the PTM, you would need to go into the data (post-conversion) and indicate which values are phospho PTMs and which are total proteome. From there you could separate the PTM/proteome into the format that MSstatsPTM takes (where we do total proteome adjustment) or just continue with the normal MSstatsTMT pipeline (without total proteome adjustment).

Hope this makes sense. 

Devon

Talia Head

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Dec 25, 2024, 12:37:16 AM12/25/24
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Hi Devon,

Thank you so much for the input! I am going to try both methods to see what I can get to work and I will update here in case anyone in the future runs into this.
Cheers,
Talia

Sam Siljee

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Feb 4, 2025, 3:41:39 PM2/4/25
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Hi Talia and Devon,

I'm also in a similar situation;
- One mixture, TMT 18-plex
- 8 fractions done for the proteome with 5 - 7 technical replicates
- Same mixture enriched for phosphopeptides, not fractionated, with 3 technical replicates
I would like to use total proteome correction, can I achieve this by changing the protein name to include the phosphorylation site after the `dataSummarizationPTM_TMT` call?

Sam
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