Re: [MLUG] Meeting topic

[Ryan Snow]

No, not yet. Does anyone have suggestions?

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Seth McClain <psy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a topic for tomorrow's meeting?

Seth

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[Ryan Snow]

I'll suggest a few options to get the ideas going, and then please chime in with your vote or other ideas for an informal poll, and let's try to decide by 5pm tonight (earlier next time I hope:).

We've had a few meetings along a similar vein in the last several months, with Home Servers <---> Internet-networking, Virtualbox, and then setting up your own personal cloud. I'd be interested to continue that with a discussion on linux on Amazon Web Services (AWS) or otherwise getting a personal server set up but not on a home network.

Another topic of current interest to me is version control for software. I've never actually used any, but there have been many times that it would have been nice. If anyone has experience, it would be cool to hear about rcs, cvs, and/or e.g. github.

I'd also be interested in discussing data security--backup assurance, cross-device syncing and version control, de-dup'ing, encryption, NFS, etc. I think there's someone out there with a special interest in ZFS and that would be cool to hear about too.

Even if you only have the slightest whim of an interest, let us know, we'd love to hear.

The meeting will be in the normal time and place, 7pm at the Missoula Public Library, Makerspace room. We'll speak on-topic for the first half-hour and then open-topic from there.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Seth McClain <psy...@gmail.com> wrote:

At some point I'd like to talk about SteamOS, but not this week :)

[Michael Loftis]

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Ryan Snow <rjs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'll suggest a few options to get the ideas going, and then please chime in
> with your vote or other ideas for an informal poll, and let's try to decide
> by 5pm tonight (earlier next time I hope:).
>
> We've had a few meetings along a similar vein in the last several months,
> with Home Servers <---> Internet-networking, Virtualbox, and then setting up
> your own personal cloud. I'd be interested to continue that with a
> discussion on linux on Amazon Web Services (AWS) or otherwise getting a
> personal server set up but not on a home network.
>
> Another topic of current interest to me is version control for software.
> I've never actually used any, but there have been many times that it would
> have been nice. If anyone has experience, it would be cool to hear about
> rcs, cvs, and/or e.g. github.

rcs and cvs are basically dead, thank the gods. To name just a few of
the more modern VCS out there - svn, git, bazaar, mercurial, perforce
(commercial), bitkeeper (commercial too), microsoft visual source safe
(yup, commercial), and there are quite a few others.

>
> I'd also be interested in discussing data security--backup assurance,
> cross-device syncing and version control, de-dup'ing, encryption, NFS, etc.
> I think there's someone out there with a special interest in ZFS and that
> would be cool to hear about too.

At present there's no useable open source de-duping out there. ZFS
isn't usable unless you have *gobs* of RAM (at least 1GB per TB, some
workloads need a lot more)...

[Ryan Snow]

Alrighty, with no votes in, I'm just going to go with the first one, "Getting your own server running on the net, with Amazon Web Services as an example." I don't have personal experience with this, but am certainly interested in doing this some time soon. I know several of our members have used/are using AWS so it should be a nice discussion. See you soon!

Mike, thanks for the tips, I think I'll start looking at git for now.

[rbowman]

On Monday, April 07, 2014 15:10:18 Michael Loftis wrote:
> rcs and cvs are basically dead, thank the gods. To name just a few of
> the more modern VCS out there - svn, git, bazaar, mercurial, perforce
> (commercial), bitkeeper (commercial too), microsoft visual source safe
> (yup, commercial), and there are quite a few others.

Over the last 15 or 20 years, we've moved from SCCS to RCS and to Subversion
(SVN). Subversion has proven very useful for large, multi-programmer projects.
One division is still on Visual Source Safe and will be migrating to SVN.

fwiw, Visual Source Safe 2005 was the end of the line and will go off life
support in 3 years. There's a patch that allows it to be used with Visual
Studio 2010, although I don't know why anyone would want to. Even M$ seldom
used it internally. It wasn't one of their better efforts.

If nothing else, the April Fool joke about Subversion moving their source tree
to git was very well done.

[Nathan Stephens]

Hey Ryan,

Wish I could make tomorrow night, but I wanted to pass on this to you, we have a free $100 credit from out Startup Weekend MSU event this last weekend and its still good for a week or two so if anyone needs an account they can use the info below. Please don't pass it on to anyone else though. I'd appreciate it. 

Best regards,

Nathan

• Amazon Web Services: http://aws.amazon.com/activate/event/moussw04 - Use this URL to each to redeem $100 in AWS credit! Make sure they do this before the end of the weekend, as the codes will expire. Free money!

[Ryan Snow]

Nice! Thanks Nathan. We will raffle that off at the meeting tonight.

[William Halliburton]

Nothing to raffle. Just hit up the url and add $100 to your amazon AWS account.

I can demo EC2 linux stuff for people tonight, been using AWS professionally since a month or two after it launched.

[Nathan Stephens]

I realize I sent that to the whole list. Totally fine. Take advantage while you can.

Nathan

[Ryan Snow]

Nice, I was hoping you would be there Will, that would be great to see how you use it. See you soon.