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Libby Cowen

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Jul 25, 2024, 10:08:55 PM7/25/24
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I had "automatic updates" turned on (no longer, I've since changed that). With automatic updates turned on, MainStage 3.2 got installed. At first I was able to load my concert file, at least the very first time. I opened the concert file, made a few small changes (normal kinds of things), and then I saved the concert and closed MainStage 3.2. This is where the trouble began. The next time I tried to load the concert, MainStage 3.2 hangs indefinitely at "Loading Plugins". I let it sit for about 20 minutes, it never loaded the concert. I am able to load smaller concerts, but the one I use most of the time is large, and I can't load that concert now with version 3.2. I've used MainStage 3.1.1 for quite some time with no issues. I have an iMac with 2 internal drives, a 250GB SSD (the Mac OS 10.9.5 and all my apps live there), and a 1TB hard drive with all my audio samples. I have 110GB free space on my SSD, and 725GB free on my hard drive. I have 16GB of RAM on this machine. So as you can tell, it's a well built machine. I've used it for 3 years now with no major issues with MainStage. However, now with version 3.2, I can't load my main concert file, it just hangs at "Loading Plugins". With this problem, I've restored from a backup, going back to version 3.1.1. After my restore to 3.1.1, now everything works great. Has anyone else had problems with loading concerts using 3.2?

I'm experiencing the same thing, where smaller concerts will load, but not my larger concert. Regarding how I resolved my issue (by restoring a previous version of MainStage), twice per week I perform a complete backup of my iMac using Time Machine. To restore my MainStage to version 3.1.1, I did a complete restore of my solid state drive (SSD), which for me is where MainStage is installed. Here is more info on how to restore your hard drive from a Time Machine backup:

Thanks WSFKeys. Sometimes my bigger projects will load, sometimes they wont, and sometimes they load blank or default versions of a plugin patch. It seems like it loads plugins once and then tries to do it again, and a weird "converting" message comes up as well.

I suspect this is a case of a super buggy update and hopefuly they will fix it soon. I recall that MS 3.0 was very buggy as well, basically unusable, and everyone went back to vs.2 until they fixed 3.

I dont know if I want to reinstall my whole system just to get mainstage 3.1 back, but maybe thats the only way, given that these DAW apps put so many different files in so many different places. Best of luck to you and thank you for your help.

I got a more immediate problem, after the MainStage 3.2 update was forced on me (I've not worked out yet where to turn this off). After updating, it claimed that all my concert files were corrupted, and asked me to restore them from a backup. This cost me about 45 minutes of rehearsal time this evening with the band waiting around for me to solve it! The solution, after reading here, was to go back to the previous version by restoring from TimeMachine. I didn't have to restore the entire SSD; I simply went back a few days and selected the MainStage application from the applications folder within TimeMachine; this seems to have restored only MainStage without touching anything else, which is perfect. So I'm very impressed with TimeMachine, and very annoyed with MainStage, the new version of which is totally unuseable, at least for me.

Similar problems here (OSX 10.5 latest drivers etc.). I play in 2 bands. One concert set worked right from the start. Another more complex with different and more complex routings etc worked NOT. And now the strange thing/solution. I'm also El Capitan beta testing and.... in the latest version of 10.11 it was possible to startup the 'corrupt' version. I saved it and re opened this version in 10.5.... and YES it works again.......??? So there was maybe a bad 'update > conversion' to MainStage 10.2.

I am having the same issue. I can open files with eight channels or so, but my files with twenty or so won't open. It takes a while for the plugins to load and then I get a message saying that the file is not compatible and to load it again from a backup. This is super bad.

When restoring it, using Time Machine, you don't have to restore everything. You can just restore the bit you want. In my case, I only wanted to restore the MainStage app itself, so I scrolled back in time to before the upgrade was applied (a couple of weeks was enough), then found the applications folder and selected the MainStage application to restore. This restored my application without overwriting newer versions of data files (such as documents, concerts etc.).

I have been using my MOXF8 for a while now and have using the native sounds from the performance mode. I would like to start using some sounds that I have created in Mainstage and control them with my MOXF. I have read through this forum and others like it and have tried a few of the steps, but I still cannot get Mainstage to even recognize it as a controller.

I have Mainstage 3 and have tested it with an M-audio midi controller and it works perfectly. But when I plug my MacBook into the "To Host" usb plug on the back of the MOXF...nothing. I can't find it in my Midi preferences on the Mac or in Mainstage. Typically, mainstage will recognize an external controller automatically.

Not sure if this is it but did you install the USB driver for MOXF in your MBP? I had to install it to connect to my Motif XF by USB, I don't think its class compliant for plug and play. When you plug in via 5-pin MIDI through a midi/audio interface module, you don't need it.

I have not done this David. I will definitely give this a try and let you know. I guess I assumed it would be plug and play like most of my other midi controllers I've used. This makes sense though.
Thanks man!

I first had to install the USB driver to get XF to interface with Melas software tools on my MBP, then when I plugged in to connect with MS3 it worked fine. I'm going to bet this will fix it for you. but i'm not an expert so ... I know it won't hurt so no harm.

Hi David. Thank you so much for your help. The USB driver definitely worked. As soon as I plugged in my MOX it recognized it in MS3. The issue I am having now is getting Mainstage to now recognize the MOX when I'm assigning it.
I went into Utility > Switch > LocalCtrl and turned it off. But when I hit a key on the MOX it doesn't register as receiving anything in MS3, like my other controllers would do. So I'm not able to assign anything. I feel like there is setting on the MOX that I'm missing.
Would you mind walking me through your MOX settings to see where I'm short.

One thing that at least let's me know I'm on the right track. If I hit my DAW Remote button, I can scroll through the different MS3 patches via my 1-16 buttons on the right. So I at least know the MOX is talking to MS3.

Sorry, I don't think I can help. (a) I don't have a MOXF (yet), I have a Motif XF7. I'm 1000 miles from expert on this topic, maybe someone else will jump in to help you. You could post over at the MOXF forum at motifator.com as well, there are helpful guys over there. BM is the resident expert but I think he's very busy of late with all of the new Montage users. understandable.

I've got a Mox8 that is seen on my macbook pro when I check the USB section, but is not seen by Mainstage 3 at all. Using a 2 keyboard setup (other a Korg), both keyboards will receive midi, but I cannot get the Mac to receive midi from the Mox. I cannot believe that people with the MoxF are still having the same problem. Is Yamaha too close to Steinberg to care about other companies? Since my Mox8 is a little dated, i was toying with the idea of upgrading to a moxf series, then I find out that people are still having the same problem getting it to work with Mainstage 3. I have no intention of buying another Yamaha until they fix their integration problems and write updated drivers for their older products.
On my end, i've tried installing just about every version midi driver yamaha has to no avail. I've uninstalled and reinstalled. Barring any help from this forum, i'm going to sadly ditch my Yamaha and steer clear of them in the future.

In order for your computer to properly recognize the MOX8 you need to download and install the Yamaha Steinberg USB driver that is appropriate for your particular computer's operating system. There are literally hundreds of users successfully using Yamaha synthesizers with Mainstage. We can give you detailed help with setting up your MOX, but when it comes to specifics about another manufacturer's software we can be of some help but will need to refer you to the included documentation or to the manufacturer of that product when it comes to customizing your setup with their software. We simply cannot take you but so far beyond the basics of setting up.

If you get stuck post your questions in a new thread. Not one where obviously the original poster couldn't get it working. The title is supposed to be their question... it is certainly not a statement of fact... because the keyboard does work with MainStage!

Yes the Drive solves the connection, neverthless a new issue im having is that when i connect the plug of intrument (to mix with yamaha voices) an interference noise comes thru, i have to turn down the volume of instrument at the interface , sadly not being able to mix both sounds (mainstage and yamaha's)


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