Re: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to ask about our course
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Siju Thomas
Nov 17, 2012, 12:51:58 AM11/17/12
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Hello guys,
Don't just bother about whether it has UGC/AICTE approvals. I can
assure you on the kind of knowledge you develop over a period of
1.5yrs, if you are really serious on studies and would like to develop
technical carrer for next 10-15 years.
We have a proof from our batch (3 I know including myself) were able
to fetch career progress along with 100% increase in our CTC just
after this course. So don't worry about your efforts and time on this
course, it's worth than what you think. Also please don't spend time
on analyzing the certificate values, unless you wanted to pursue your
career in teaching UGC approved colleges or pursue UGC approved PHD.
Guys, you have no esacpe to sweat for 2 years if you are looking for
8+ CGPA, which is the key. You will also come across various excueses
in the form of faculties, Ravisha's etc.. Just stick to your dreams
:-)
Cheers!!
-Siju.(MS04 batch)
***********************************
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Thomson Reuters,
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> Subject: Fwd: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to
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> Date: 9 Nov 2012 22:38
> Subject: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to ask
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> From: *Sunay Sogal* <suna...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM
> Subject: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to ask about our course
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> Dear Friends,
>
> I am Sunay from MSD-B7.
>
> I had been to the UGC Dept in Vidhan Soudha it is housed in the MS
> Building on the 6th floor. I met a higher education officer ( he wanted
> to be anonymous) he informed me that many off-campus courses in B'lore
> were de-recognized of which manipal was one of them and he was a part
> of the committee which did this, but somehow they were able to put the
> issue under wrap and he was given a desk job (typical Indian system). Now i
> have gone through the (almost) whole UGC website and found out some facts,
> will attach some pdfs you can check it for yourself as well as you can
> go through the UGC and AICTE website yourself (http://www.ugc.ac.in/;
> http://www.aicte-india.org/ ).
>
> 1) Firstly manipal university doesn't exist it should be referred to
> as MAHE (Manipal Academy of Higher Education) MU is again a sort of brand
> name they use for ads. According to UGC no deemed to be universities can
> use the word "University" next to their name. Refer pdf-1.
>
> 2) I doubt if this course follows the UGC regulation regarding the
> duration of course work, you can see the pdf-2 and compare the required
> hours of course work for the awarding of master's degree through formal
> education.
>
> 3) In the pdf-3 'Specification of Degrees' the Msc-tech course is a
> three year course as approved by UGC, so we need to know if MAHE has
> permission to grant the degree in two years.
>
> 4) If i remember correctly they started this course in 2003, so they
> must have a kind of certificate or approval to authorize them to include
> such a course because it wasn't there when they got the UGC approval. This
> you can refer to
> pdf-1 clause 12.05, i feel they have violated many rules if you go
> through this pdf in particular.
>
> 5) I have attached a report (pdf-4) by the committee which proposed
> the approval of the deemed status to MAHE, here there is very little
> mention of the manipal institute of technology and no mention of the
> off-campus courses whatsoever.
>
> Finally it all boils down to the fact that; the course is not UGC (nor
> AICTE) approved, if so they should be able to come forward with the
> document that proves this. It is only a professional course like many other
> courses ( Design, SAP, Piping Design courses etc). May be it has industry
> recognition, but that is it.
>
> Now i may have missed many points here or i may be totally wrong!! So if we
> are really serious about this and feel what we expected is missing in this
> course, we have to take it to the next level counsult a lawyer ( preferably
> any of your known people who is a lawyer) and see if we have got the facts
> right and have a valid case to go to the consumer court or where ever it
> is.
>
> Pdf-1 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/gazzeetenglish.pdf
>
> Pdf-2 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/masterdegree_regulation.pdf
>
> Pdf-3 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/specificationofDegrees.pdf
>
> Pdf-4 >
> http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/ecreportdu/manipaleducationalcomplex.pdf
>
> Yours Sincerly
> Sunay
> 9535495734
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Don't just bother about whether it has UGC/AICTE approvals. I can
assure you on the kind of knowledge you develop over a period of
1.5yrs, if you are really serious on studies and would like to develop
technical carrer for next 10-15 years.
We have a proof from our batch (3 I know including myself) were able
to fetch career progress along with 100% increase in our CTC just
after this course. So don't worry about your efforts and time on this
course, it's worth than what you think. Also please don't spend time
on analyzing the certificate values, unless you wanted to pursue your
career in teaching UGC approved colleges or pursue UGC approved PHD.
Guys, you have no esacpe to sweat for 2 years if you are looking for
8+ CGPA, which is the key. You will also come across various excueses
in the form of faculties, Ravisha's etc.. Just stick to your dreams
:-)
Cheers!!
-Siju.(MS04 batch)
***********************************
Technical Team Lead,
Thomson Reuters,
Bangalore.
On 11/13/12, Anil Kongovi <invincib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI,
>
> Regards,
> Anil Kongovi
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: aravindgiridhar aravindgiridhar <aravind...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:54 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to
> ask about our course
> To: anil kongovi <invincib...@gmail.com>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Aardhra <aardh...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:54:09 +0530
> Subject: Fwd: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan
> soudha to ask about our course
> To: aravindgiridhar aravindgiridhar <aravind...@gmail.com>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Anand An" <sanand...@yahoo.com>
> Date: 9 Nov 2012 22:38
> Subject: [MUL_CS8B] : Fw: Fwd: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to ask
> about our course
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Sunay Sogal* <suna...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 PM
> Subject: I went to UGC Dept in vidhan soudha to ask about our course
> To: mu-2012...@googlegroups.com, muc...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am Sunay from MSD-B7.
>
> I had been to the UGC Dept in Vidhan Soudha it is housed in the MS
> Building on the 6th floor. I met a higher education officer ( he wanted
> to be anonymous) he informed me that many off-campus courses in B'lore
> were de-recognized of which manipal was one of them and he was a part
> of the committee which did this, but somehow they were able to put the
> issue under wrap and he was given a desk job (typical Indian system). Now i
> have gone through the (almost) whole UGC website and found out some facts,
> will attach some pdfs you can check it for yourself as well as you can
> go through the UGC and AICTE website yourself (http://www.ugc.ac.in/;
> http://www.aicte-india.org/ ).
>
> 1) Firstly manipal university doesn't exist it should be referred to
> as MAHE (Manipal Academy of Higher Education) MU is again a sort of brand
> name they use for ads. According to UGC no deemed to be universities can
> use the word "University" next to their name. Refer pdf-1.
>
> 2) I doubt if this course follows the UGC regulation regarding the
> duration of course work, you can see the pdf-2 and compare the required
> hours of course work for the awarding of master's degree through formal
> education.
>
> 3) In the pdf-3 'Specification of Degrees' the Msc-tech course is a
> three year course as approved by UGC, so we need to know if MAHE has
> permission to grant the degree in two years.
>
> 4) If i remember correctly they started this course in 2003, so they
> must have a kind of certificate or approval to authorize them to include
> such a course because it wasn't there when they got the UGC approval. This
> you can refer to
> pdf-1 clause 12.05, i feel they have violated many rules if you go
> through this pdf in particular.
>
> 5) I have attached a report (pdf-4) by the committee which proposed
> the approval of the deemed status to MAHE, here there is very little
> mention of the manipal institute of technology and no mention of the
> off-campus courses whatsoever.
>
> Finally it all boils down to the fact that; the course is not UGC (nor
> AICTE) approved, if so they should be able to come forward with the
> document that proves this. It is only a professional course like many other
> courses ( Design, SAP, Piping Design courses etc). May be it has industry
> recognition, but that is it.
>
> Now i may have missed many points here or i may be totally wrong!! So if we
> are really serious about this and feel what we expected is missing in this
> course, we have to take it to the next level counsult a lawyer ( preferably
> any of your known people who is a lawyer) and see if we have got the facts
> right and have a valid case to go to the consumer court or where ever it
> is.
>
> Pdf-1 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/gazzeetenglish.pdf
>
> Pdf-2 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/masterdegree_regulation.pdf
>
> Pdf-3 > http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/regulations/specificationofDegrees.pdf
>
> Pdf-4 >
> http://www.ugc.ac.in/oldpdf/ecreportdu/manipaleducationalcomplex.pdf
>
> Yours Sincerly
> Sunay
> 9535495734
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Firstly, after completing this course I have stopped recommending it to anyone regardless of it being recognized or not!
Secondly, even if u have taken up this shit, don't mistake and compare it to full time univ approved course. It is not! It is only and only for industry exp , as siju said...
It's a money making gimmick played by most universities including bits pilani...
Honestly. If u r looking for a universally approved degree, recommend you to take up a full time course ....
And do a favor to mankind by spreading awareness about such courses...
I have realised my mistake, and I give a f*@k abt it.... If it has to help anyone in industry, it will!!
Play ur cards well !! Make the company sponsor if u still wana do it!!
Cheers,
Don
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Everybody seems to behave like Einstein here (hahaha). This reminded our uppi stage talk in raktha kaneer film so enjoying it. Giving chances to others for exchanging words further.
Looks like almost every individual has a unique feeling abt the professional degree course which sets an example of negativity of our understanding.
Can anyone tell me who is giving education free of cost?
Please try to get your 360 degree views on the problem and you will find ur answers. Every judgement given in supreme court cannot be correct so every individual verdicts are just onesided but not final.
We all are corrupted so india and its depts. Irrespective of whatever education we all are behind own self causes.
I must admit that I met many good talented friends/lecturers during this course and like to carry on the good perfume till I live with whatever the identity that iam living upon.
If you recommend or do not recommend doesn't matter but when some one asks you abt the benefits just share ur experience the positive and negative part.
The rest u leave it to individual to decide.
Thanks
Looks like almost every individual has a unique feeling abt the professional degree course which sets an example of negativity of our understanding.
Can anyone tell me who is giving education free of cost?
Please try to get your 360 degree views on the problem and you will find ur answers. Every judgement given in supreme court cannot be correct so every individual verdicts are just onesided but not final.
We all are corrupted so india and its depts. Irrespective of whatever education we all are behind own self causes.
I must admit that I met many good talented friends/lecturers during this course and like to carry on the good perfume till I live with whatever the identity that iam living upon.
If you recommend or do not recommend doesn't matter but when some one asks you abt the benefits just share ur experience the positive and negative part.
The rest u leave it to individual to decide.
Thanks
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