Re: FW: Session with the University Authorities

[Sougata Bhar]

Dear All,

 

Today I have submitted my form scanned by email to Director Admissions, Manipal University (foradm...@manipalglobal.com), for withdrawal from MS Programme in Computer Science (4th batch 2009) with copies to Aruna Devi & Rajendra Josi. 

 

Since time given by them is too short (less than 10 days), hence I anticipate some delay in submission of the hard copies to reach them.

 

Also they have asked to submit all originals, fees deposit receipts, marks sheets, identity card etc. alongwith the withdrawl form to them, I wonder if Manipal Univ will send us the acknowledgements for the same. Till then we are left with no original docs with us! I think the best way is to hand over these docs to Manipal Univ in person and get an acklowledgement.

 

I am attaching my withdrawl Form for the information of all.

 

Lets hope Manipal proactively processes our request for withdralw and refund of our fees.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

Sougata Bhar

 

 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Anil Kongovi <invincib...@gmail.com> wrote:

FYI,

 

 

 

From: Aruna Devi [MaGE]
Sent: 20 January 2013 18:08

Cc: Ravish V.G. [MaGE]; Rajendra Joshi [MaGE]

Subject: RE: Session with the University Authorities

 

Dear Students,

Subsequent to the mail below we had a meeting between Manipal officials and the students to share the outcome of the University Senate meeting and its response to the various options shared by the students in the previous meeting dated:16th Dec 2012. More than 350 students were present for the meeting. The details presented in the meeting with all the relevant letters/documents shared by the University will be shared with all the students within 23rd Jan, Wednesday.

Thanks & Regards,

 

Aruna Devi.T

Academic Coordinator | Manipal Global Education|

1^st Floor, No. 14 Manipal Towers| Old Airport Road|

Bangalore- 560008

Ph: +91-08-40789107/ 9901953944

 

"Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree.”

 

 

[Avinash Nagabhushan]

Hi All,

        Withdrawal is for people who are undergoing the course or who have taken break :) So please do check before applying :)

Note:

 The last date for receipt of the withdrawal application by the student is 31 st Jan 2013. Application received after 31 st

Jan 2013 will not be considered.

 Students who are attending regular classes or undergoing project or have taken academic 

break during the Program (duly approved by the University), will only be eligible under this 

withdrawal.

 All cases of withdrawal are subject to review by the University.

Thanks,

Avinash K N

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[kiran mantagi]

Guys,

I have'nt seen that the MS (or now being equivalent to full time M.Tech) will now be considered as the Masters Degree by UGC anywhere in the mail or attached documents by the Manipal University. I think, originally we had this issue discussed, that the MS provided by Manipal is not being considered as Masters Degree by UGC. So, is the solution provided the university going to solve this problem as well??

Please correct me if my understanding is not correct..

Thanks.
Kiran Mantagi.

[Chandrashekar]

Dear Kiran,

I had posed the same question to the director, Manipal university. 

His response for my questions as below

<<QUOTE>>

1)      How is this different from UGC approval and is the course not approved by UGC then? – UGC does not approve specific courses. UGC approves Universities and provides guidelines on the list of approved nomenclature that can be used for courses. The list was issued in 2011 and therefore does not impact MS students.

2)      On the UGC website wrt Manipal University’s deemed status, the distance education part is supposed to be YET approved by UGC. Hence my above question wrt the approval status becomes even more relevant. – you are not part of the distance education scheme. So this does not apply to you.

 <<UNQUOTE>>

[kiran mantagi]

Thanks Chandrashekar :-)

So, should we assume that the MS we got from Manipal University is UGC recognised and is considered as the masters degree by the world outside Manipal??

Thanks & Regards,

Kiran Mantagi.

[Chandrashekar]

Hi kiran,

As per the university the answer is Yes. ;)
But even am not much aware of the rules and regulations pertaining to these

Thanks,
Chandrashekar

[Chandrashekar]

Hi All, 

To wrap things up, we had initiated a face to face discussion with the university reps by inviting them to my company (Mindtree) last week similar to what has been done by other companies. Ravish, Rajendra and the director Bhaskaran visited us and clarified quite a few queries of ours. The gist of the discussion is:

Prior to 2011, there was ambiguity as to what MS stands for : was it "Master of Science" or "Master of Surgery" and also UGC had never provided a guideline towards naming of courses as it does not deal with individual courses. Instead it could only authorize universities and never meddled with individual courses. 

Manipal being a "deemed" university is required to just take an approval from its academy of senate (comprising of industry guys, academic administrators and a few neutral people) for starting up a specific course or a program by virtue of the power bestowed on it for being a deemed university by the govt (UGC). But any program should be executed as per the guidelines of UGC - at an university level and UGC never approved individual courses as such.

Owing to the confusion in naming of what MS (and other such courses) stood for, UGC had to take a stand in 2011 and came up with a nomenclature of the course names and decided to call "Master of Science in technical domain" as "MSc in Tech" and just MS will now stand for "Master of Surgery". Since this update, universities now will have to adhere and award only MSc in Tech and not M.S for technical degrees. However, the UGC has no concerns or reservations on the degrees awarded prior to 2011 as there was no clear guideline or standards prior to this. Hence there is no question of any violation. 

Essentially, its the same curriculum and weightage with industry and academic acceptance as before but with different naming convention. To justify this stance, a generic letter of equivalence has been already provided and on request, a specific individually addressed letter of equivalence will also be provided to any student who requests for the same. As per them, there are students who are doing PHD in many institutes both within and outside the country and is undoubtedly an industry-accepted program. They also went on to claim that among the three top classifications of the universities by MHRD in terms of quality, Manipal seemingly is in the top category along with other credible institutions (they showed a document from a newspaper publication as proof - all this will appear on their website which is being revamped shortly)

Given that all this that we are going through applies to all the students who have passed out of full time MS course from Manipal university (we are talking of thousands here) and the fact that this change by UGC applies to all universities and not just Manipal, I think we are on a safer ground and can put our fears to rest.

This was the information gathered from them in the discussion.

Hope it helps.

Thanks,
Chandrashekar

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Chandrashekar <shek...@gmail.com> wrote:

[chandanMSCS chandanMSCS]

Thank you for the info