7 The Three Groups

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Mr. Willhoit

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Mar 10, 2008, 2:57:43 PM3/10/08
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What are the aims of the three groups? How is this ideology present
in today's class system?

Sammi

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Mar 11, 2008, 10:46:25 AM3/11/08
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Each class has a different idea and "plan of attack" to get the other
classes out of power so they will be able to be in power. The High
tries to keep their position and keep the other two classes under
control. The Middle tries to create a plan that will get the High out
of their position so they will be able to have the highest power over
all the other classes. The Low just suck at life, they do not have
anything going for them, they will never get into the Middle, let
alone the High.

To day in our present class system, it is hard for anyone to get
anywhere differently in the society because our government is in is
debt to the max. Unless someone wins the lottery or wins big on
instant tickets, or radomnly inherits a lot of money from a dead
relative, there is no moving up in the class system.

Stu Warpinski

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Mar 11, 2008, 11:03:53 AM3/11/08
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Yes and No. I agree with what Sammi says about the low class. Contrary
to popular belief, humans are not equal to each other. The low do have
a tendency to suck at life so they are in the low class, and
rightfully so. It does not happen by accident that the low class
people are in the low class. The world is full of opportunities.

I disagree with what Sammi says about not being able to climb the
social ladder. It is very possible even in today's world as long as
you are willing to work. To many times people hold out for the higher
paying job and remain jobless when they could be flipping burgers at
McDonalds. Don't get me wrong, I know that people can't live on
minimum wage, but it is just a stepping stone. Besides, what is
stopping you from working two shifts? The American Dream is very real,
but you still have to work for it. For example, Caterpillar is always
looking for more people. They will train you , and you will probably
start at 9 dollars an hour. Not much, but if you bust your butt and
work hard you can easily climb to a management position in a few
years. Work makes you free

Tecya Peterson

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Mar 11, 2008, 11:31:55 AM3/11/08
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The three groups are the low, middle, and high class. The goal is to
be in the highest class. The goal of the middle class is to change
places with the High class. The high class wants to stay in their
place and not let anyone take it from them. The low class citizens
want to be anywhere besides where they are at. Then the books says
that the middle class somewhat groups with the lower class and makes
them to believe that they will help them as long as they can both take
over the high class. Once the middle class gets to the high class
they seem to forget about all the other people who are not in their
class. In a result, the middle and high class have a competition with
each other while the low class has no hope since most of them will not
make it to a different class in their lifetime.

Today's class system is just like this explanation that was in the
book to describe Oceania class systems. The lower class seems to have
no hope and wants to get to a different class level but has a very
difficult time to achieve this. Then the middle class is trying to
get to the higher class by getting raises, changing jobs, working more
hours. The high class is just worried about themselves and does not
want anything to happen to their precious money.

Gustavo Gaspari

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Mar 11, 2008, 12:05:32 PM3/11/08
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The tree classes are: Low, Midle and High class.
Today we have like pretty much the same ideology but like a kind of
disguise opinion, i dont konw if you can understand that because i
wrtoe like confuisons ideas.
But the high class is like ther powerfull class because they have a
lot of money, and today money is important for society.The low class
are all of poor people, they dont have how change it, and they dont
have a lot ways to explain their beliefs.
So today's class system is pretty much the same that is showed in the
book.

Gustavo Gaspari

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Mar 11, 2008, 12:11:49 PM3/11/08
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The aim of is to remain where they are.The aim of the midle is to
change places with the high.The aim of the low, they have no aim, is
to abolish all distinctions and create a society in wich all men shall
be equal.

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Mar 11, 2008, 12:14:03 PM3/11/08
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I agree with Sammi. The two lower classes are fighting for power and
how to get to the next class and the High class is trying to stay on
top and still have the power. I don't agree that the low class sucks
at life and thats final. I think the two other classes just won't let
the lower class to get ahead and move to the next class up. The middle
class is the class that wants to advance up the high class but is
often unable because of the high class people.

Julie Champagne

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Mar 11, 2008, 12:17:00 PM3/11/08
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The aim of the High is to remain where they are. The aim of the middle
is to change places with the High. The aim of the Low is to abolish
all distinctions and create a society in which all men shall be equal.
But they also say in the book that the Low are always the ones that
are never even temporarily successful in achieving their aims.
I think that it is pretty much the same in our society today. The High
class tries to stay where they are, get more power, more money, more
confort,... The middle class in our society tries to get more money by
working hard (trying to get promotions, working huge amount of hours
or having a few jobs...). I don't agree with the aim of the Low in the
book because, as Stu said, there is always a possibility to climb the
social ladder as long as you work hard for it. So even Low class
people could become the high if they have talent or are smart enough
or even if they have enough courage to start something new and
successful. I know a few people who started with nothing and now are
richer than most people.

Katy Lynn

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Mar 11, 2008, 2:24:44 PM3/11/08
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I agree with sammi! The upper just tries to remain the upper class the
middle tries to become the upper and the lower just remains the lower
and tries to remain living!
This is compared to our class system in many many ways! I beleive that
it is almost the exact same way for our classes now the people in
holllywood go through rough spots where they are still rich but they
are running out of things to do to make more money and support their
living styles. the people that are in the middle class only dream
about being famous and judge and continously rip on the rich and
famous giving them bed reputations and the lower generally just work
or if they are really bad sometimes even possibly live on the streets
with nothing but the hope that they will still be alive in the
morning!
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Brittany Walker

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Mar 12, 2008, 4:31:34 PM3/12/08
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The 3 Groups are the following - High, Middle, and Low. The high
class is always on top, the middle is always striving to be on top,
and the low class just wants to get up to have a better way of life
than the one they are currently living. The middle class tells the
low class about how bad the society of the High class is, and they
conjoin together, but in the end, the high class wins, and the low
class is just pushed back down again. I definately think that it is
an occurance in society today because people are always wanting more.
The High always have more and the middle gets jealous, and strives to
become like the high. The low class society just wants to be able to
make it today and not have to live day to day wondering if they are
going to make it or not.

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Mar 12, 2008, 6:57:46 PM3/12/08
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the aims of the tree group are: High, Middle, and Low.
each class has a plan to take Hight level. the aim of the high
group,trie to continue in the this level And maintain control over
the other groups. The Middle group, trie to create a plan to get the
hight level and cahnge place with this group.The Low group, is the
most profound level, they had nothing for them. they know that there
are a few options to exceed the next level, they have opportunities.

In Colombia, these three classes are the same.
The highest class are the people who have money and are able to have
any power over other groups also on the Colombian decisions. The
middle class, which where most Colombians are, we work and try to
survive on our efforts, but we never make plant to get the high level.
Finally the lower class are the "poor people" don't have money are the
ones who most suffer for the mistakes of those in the high class.



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