Genesis vs. Bootstrap

[Craig]

Hello,

I am fairly new to working with Wordpress and I am excited to be in this group and have the opportunity to dive deeper into Wordpress. I have recently heard and read a lot of great things about the Genesis Framework and I am almost sold. However, I know Bootstrap well and I have also seen some articles and tutorials about working with Bootstrap. The only thing that is really keeping me from going all in with Genesis is that it seems that Bootstrap would be more customizable, but this might be because it comes with a lot more options (which in turn, makes it more blotted). I am curious of your thoughts and if you have worked with both. Pros and cons are always helpful.

Thanks in advance!

Craig

[Nick Ciske]

Looks like it may not be maintained (or maybe it doesn’t need updates beyond major Bootstrap versions?) … but you can use both:

https://ironcodestudio.com/bootstrap-genesis-theme/

https://github.com/salcode/bootstrap-genesis

Nick Ciske

CTO / LuminFire

@nciske

https://luminfire.com/

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[Craig]

I'll look more into those options. Does any one have experience with these hybrid frameworks?

Thanks Nick!

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 2:40:54 PM UTC-5, Nick Ciske wrote:

Looks like it may not be maintained (or maybe it doesn’t need updates beyond major Bootstrap versions?) … but you can use both:

https://ironcodestudio.com/bootstrap-genesis-theme/

https://github.com/salcode/bootstrap-genesis

Nick Ciske

CTO / LuminFire

@nciske

https://luminfire.com/

On Aug 7, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Craig <craigj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am fairly new to working with Wordpress and I am excited to be in this group and have the opportunity to dive deeper into Wordpress. I have recently heard and read a lot of great things about the Genesis Framework and I am almost sold. However, I know Bootstrap well and I have also seen some articles and tutorials about working with Bootstrap. The only thing that is really keeping me from going all in with Genesis is that it seems that Bootstrap would be more customizable, but this might be because it comes with a lot more options (which in turn, makes it more blotted). I am curious of your thoughts and if you have worked with both. Pros and cons are always helpful.

Thanks in advance!

Craig

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[Nick Ciske]

It’s not really a hybrid framework. Its Genesis with a Bootstrap stylesheet and some hooks to add the necessary classes to the default Genesis elements.

There’s a SASS version of Genesis, a mobile first version, etc.

Here’s a commercial theme that uses SASS, Bourbon and Neat / Mobile first, React ready, etc.:

https://www.musket-theme.com

The beauty of Genesis is you can modify it this heavily… without having to tear 90% of the code out.

I’d argue that Bootstrap and Genesis are not a great combo… and you’re better of with a straight SASS version of Genesis if you don’t like the plain vanilla CSS in the starter theme.

Nick Ciske

CTO / LuminFire

@nciske

https://luminfire.com/

[Craig]

Ok, that makes sense. I really appreciate you taking the time to clarify for me. I think it is time to dive into Genesis, thanks Nick!

[Eric Celeste]

Craig, I’d second what Nick is saying, you can really use both Genesis and Bootstrap if you like. Bootstrap is a way to organize and manage your CSS and JavaScript code to make building any web page more manageable. Genesis is really a framework for making WordPress templates more modular. Nothing would stop you from using Bootstrap CSS and JavaScript in a Genesis child theme.

I just had my first real experience with Genesis a couple months ago. After years of building WordPress themes the more “traditional” way, Genesis was a lot to get my head around. Essentially, it transforms any WordPress page into a series of hooks and filters that you can override in the theme. Changing the look of a page becomes less a task of finding the right spot in the theme files to put your PHP code (although there is still some of that) and much more a matter of figuring out which Genesis hooks to override with new content. While it twisted by brain a bit, it was really quite fun to work with and there are many benefits that come from the Genesis way of theming.

Lots of other experiences with the boundaries between Genesis and Bootstrap can be found with a "bootstrap wordpress genesis” search on your favorite search engine.

Good luck!

…Eric

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