mode complete lights

[Ray Scott]

Hi,

I am able to qualify a mode, turn on a playfield light showing that mode is active and score accordingly for that mode. I can complete the first mode and start a second mode again lighting the playfield light. My issue is that these lights go off at the end of a ball. I want to leave all modes lights that have been qualified to stay on until the end of the game even though the mode can be in a completed or failed state.

it looks to me that the base mode restarts at the end of each ball, thus restarting my qualifier mode. I have my qualified modes set to persist: true so the ones that have been lit can no longer be qualified. however I would still like the light lit to show what has been done. 

I think my question is, how do I persist this light even though the mode it is started from is no longer active.

I hope that makes sense.

Ray

[Ben Tripoli]

Hi Ray

You are correct, base mode will stop when the ball ends. To keep those lights active you could do something similar to what I do to keep my Segment displays active with the game Scores with a separate mode that runs until game ends, as per below. 

I have the priority low as elsewhere I have a mode with a higher priority that overwrite those lights whilst it is running a light show and when that light show ends the segments return to the original low priority mode and the Scores are showing again. The guru's may have a better solution but this is how I handle it.

mode:
  start_events: ball_starting
  stop_events: game_ended
  stop_on_ball_end: false
  game_mode: false
  priority: 300

Hope the above makes sense... :)

[leeoneil]

If I understand correctly, Ray want to keep the lights associated when a mode stop.

You can do it by putting all the light_player associated into your base mode.

It will stop briefly when the ball end, but reappears on the next ball.

[leeoneil]

I forgot to say that I used some variable to keep track on the lights that need to be lit or not.

[Ray Scott]

Thanks. I will dig a bit deeper into this.

[Ray Scott]

Thanks. That sounds like I should assign a variable when the mode starts which will carry over into the light_player in the base mode.

You wouldn't happen to have an example of how the light_player is triggered with a variable ?

[Ray Scott]

Actually I think I just found an example of this. Will give it a try tomorrow.

Thanks

On Wednesday, August 28, 2024 at 6:24:51 PM UTC+10 l...@rdtp.net wrote:

[Owen Underwood]

For your use case, it sounds like you want achievements/achievement groups (these persist their state between balls and are specifically designed for tracking mode qualification and completion.

https://missionpinball.org/latest/config/achievements/

If you model your game using the mpf example below (which I strongly recommend if your game has depth), you would put these achievements & groups in the base mode.

https://missionpinball.org/latest/game_design/mode_layering/

"Persistence" between balls can be tricky (some mpf configs will let you choose to persist_state). My preference for things I want to persist is to use state machines (making sure to set persist_state to true). Jan has a really good YouTube video about them.

https://youtu.be/qakxTF1H57E?si=e7XSOE9bdjGWQaUX

https://missionpinball.org/latest/config/state_machines/

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[nick taseris]

Not sure if this is too simpe to accomplish what you are describing, but I have playfield lights to show which modes have been played (playing each mode whether or not it gets completed is part of qualifying my wizard mode). I just use a light player in the base yaml like the one below. You can tie it to a different event if you need to but I just use the mode started event for each of my modes. The lights stay on between balls until end of game.

light_player:

mode_bill_bulk_and_the_body_buddies_started: #event from MPF monitor for the mode I want to activate the light.

l_bill_1: #name of my light

color: orange

[Ray Scott]

Thanks,

I did try using the Addams Family Mansion Awards cookbook, adapted for my game but I kept hitting an error that I couldn't work out. Then thought it might be because I am running MPF 0.59 and that was written for 0.50 so effectively gave up. I will re-visit all the above options as I get chance.

I find with a lot of the examples it only gives you part of the story, the rest you have to try to work out, which also may be my stumbling block.

I have watched a lot of Jans videos with various levels of understanding exactly where the items talked about relate to what I would like to achieve i.e. which should be in the base config, the main config or its own mode. They are not marked as video 1  to X so have jumped around a bit.

The links posted are much appreciated. 

[Ray Scott]

I have resolved this by declaring a variable when the mode is complete. Base mode checks the value and keeps completed mode lights lit.

variable_player:
  mode_scarlet_complete:
    scarlet_ok:
      action: set_machine
      int: 1