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Gary Schrock

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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I'm wondering if anyone's gotten Arkeia backup for linux working under
freebsd. It appears the program mostly works, but it does want a "generic
scsi" device for controlling the tape, and from looking at my dev directory
I'm not sure that anything really matches (I think they're like /dev/sga
/dev/sgb in linux). The program seems to run, but I can't get anything to
backup :(. Other than that, it seems to be a reasonably decent piece of
software, and seems to be more comprehensible at setting up to do network
backups than amanda is (since I still haven't managed to figure out how to
get amanda to work).

Gary Schrock
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Doug White

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Apr 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/2/98
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Gary Schrock wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone's gotten Arkeia backup for linux working under
> freebsd. It appears the program mostly works, but it does want a "generic
> scsi" device for controlling the tape, and from looking at my dev directory
> I'm not sure that anything really matches (I think they're like /dev/sga
> /dev/sgb in linux). The program seems to run, but I can't get anything to
> backup :(. Other than that, it seems to be a reasonably decent piece of
> software, and seems to be more comprehensible at setting up to do network
> backups than amanda is (since I still haven't managed to figure out how to
> get amanda to work).

Got a URL? We could probably port it.

Doug White | University of Oregon
Internet: dwh...@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major

Gary Schrock

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Apr 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/2/98
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At 01:05 AM 4/2/98 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Gary Schrock wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if anyone's gotten Arkeia backup for linux working under
>> freebsd. It appears the program mostly works, but it does want a "generic
>> scsi" device for controlling the tape, and from looking at my dev directory
>> I'm not sure that anything really matches (I think they're like /dev/sga
>> /dev/sgb in linux). The program seems to run, but I can't get anything to
>> backup :(. Other than that, it seems to be a reasonably decent piece of
>> software, and seems to be more comprehensible at setting up to do network
>> backups than amanda is (since I still haven't managed to figure out how to
>> get amanda to work).
>
>Got a URL? We could probably port it.

Unfortunately it's a commercial product. They support a couple of flavors
of unix, but I think linux was the only one that we have any sort of
compatability with. I suspect the real problem is our linux compatability
missing some stuff, I do remember seeing a message about an unsupported
ioctl in messages. Anybody that wants to look at it, it's at
www.knox-software.com.

Hmm, the listed platforms for pc unix are linux and sco (3.2, Openserver 5,
Unixware V 2.x). I seem to recall we have some sco compatability, but I
don't remember to what extent. Of course, the plus with their shareware
version (which is only available in the linux flavor) is that it does
everything I need without having to lay out a whole ton of money.


Gary Schrock
ro...@eyelab.msu.edu

Zeus Daemon

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Apr 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/2/98
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What are you using for backups?

I am looking into changing out backup setup
at the moment we have on host with a tape and do tar backups to this host
via rsh once a week.

I'm sure god created me for something more than changing tapes, What are
your solutions?

- zeus

Doug White

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Apr 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/3/98
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Zeus Daemon wrote:

> I am looking into changing out backup setup
> at the moment we have on host with a tape and do tar backups to this host
> via rsh once a week.

We use rdump, which is the same sort of idea, except using dump instead of
tar.

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http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major

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Gary Schrock

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Apr 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/3/98
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At 10:15 AM 4/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Zeus Daemon wrote:
>
>> I am looking into changing out backup setup
>> at the moment we have on host with a tape and do tar backups to this host
>> via rsh once a week.
>
>We use rdump, which is the same sort of idea, except using dump instead of
>tar.

So what's the trick to getting rdump to work properly? I've looked into
this a few times, but I've never been able to get it to work properly. I
figure it's something stupid I'm doing, but I just can't figure it out from
the man page.

# rdump 0auf machine.name:/dev/nrst0 /
DUMP: Login incorrect.
DUMP: login to machine.name as root failed.

(Obviously, machine.name is replaced with the machine I'm trying to send
the dump to)

Gary Schrock
ro...@eyelab.msu.edu

Paul T. Root

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Apr 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/3/98
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In a previous message, Gary Schrock said:
> At 10:15 AM 4/3/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Zeus Daemon wrote:
> >
> >> I am looking into changing out backup setup
> >> at the moment we have on host with a tape and do tar backups to this host
> >> via rsh once a week.
> >
> >We use rdump, which is the same sort of idea, except using dump instead of
> >tar.
>
> So what's the trick to getting rdump to work properly? I've looked into
> this a few times, but I've never been able to get it to work properly. I
> figure it's something stupid I'm doing, but I just can't figure it out from
> the man page.

You need to have the proper name of the local machine in the tape host machine's
root .rhosts and /etc/hosts.equiv. Proper name is found how it's resolved by
dns (if dns is first in you host.conf file) or the first on the line in your
/etc/hosts (if hosts is first). Or you can find it with the who command on the
tape machine, logged in from your local machine


> # rdump 0auf machine.name:/dev/nrst0 /
> DUMP: Login incorrect.
> DUMP: login to machine.name as root failed.
>
> (Obviously, machine.name is replaced with the machine I'm trying to send
> the dump to)
>
>
>
> Gary Schrock
> ro...@eyelab.msu.edu
>
>
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Gary Schrock

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Apr 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/3/98
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At 12:34 PM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
>You need to have the proper name of the local machine in the tape host
machine's
>root .rhosts and /etc/hosts.equiv. Proper name is found how it's resolved by
>dns (if dns is first in you host.conf file) or the first on the line in your
>/etc/hosts (if hosts is first). Or you can find it with the who command on
the
>tape machine, logged in from your local machine

Ugh, I had figured out the /etc/hosts.equiv, but hadn't thought to put it
in .rhosts. Works like a charm, thanks.

Doug White

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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Gary Schrock wrote:

> >We use rdump, which is the same sort of idea, except using dump instead of
> >tar.
>
> So what's the trick to getting rdump to work properly? I've looked into
> this a few times, but I've never been able to get it to work properly. I
> figure it's something stupid I'm doing, but I just can't figure it out from
> the man page.

You need to allow the machine to be backed up rsh access to the tape
server in /etc/hosts.equiv. I hate this way myself since it's a blatant
security hole. We actually hacked a way to pipe this through ssh but I
don't have that script in front of me.

Doug White | University of Oregon
Internet: dwh...@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major

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