Re: Not playing the flash video/audio by default ...

Ralph Fox

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Jun 3, 2009, 5:51:32 AM6/3/09

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On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), in message <9c6bf47d-9873-45a7...@21g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>
Kedar Mhaswade <madhup...@gmail.com> wrote:

| This topic (http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
| browse_thread/thread/4d6564c3b850868f/9ac50c118362d149?
| lnk=gst&q=embed#9ac50c118362d149) has not yet been responded.

1. Wrapped links are harder to follow. Try this link instead...

news:vfydnWY2W55zqeTb...@mozilla.org

| I tried various tricks -- using AUTOSTART=FALSE, VOLUME=0 in my embed
| tag and none of it seems to work. Whenever my blog page is loaded by
| the browser, the movie clip starts playing.
|
| How can I be a good citizen and make the browser not play the embedded
| video? Of course, viewers can use zillion ways like flashblock,
| noflash extensions, but I don't want them to do anything on their end
| just to visit my blog page.

2. This could be a question for the Flash plug-in, not for Firefox.

Just FYI, the Flash plug-ins for Firefox and IE are different.
* the "Shockwave Flash Object" ActiveX control for IE; file name: Flash9f.ocx
* the "Shockwave Flash" plug-in for Firefox; file name: NPSWF32.dll

3. Cross-post and followup set to newsgroup mozilla.web-developers.general

4. For a solution which does not rely on the Flash plug-in supporting it,
do this:

4.1 Put an iframe in your web page.
4.2 The web page automatically loads a page "manual_start.html" into the iframe.
4.3 Page "manual_start.html" contains a link or button.
When the user clicks the link or button, it loads page "run_video.html" into
the same iframe.
4.4 Page "run_video.html" contains the video.

Here is a simple example.

Source for page "main.html"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<!DOCTYPE HTML SYSTEM>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<title>main page</title>
</head>
<body>
Blah blah blah
<hr>
<center>

</center>
<hr>
Yadda yadda yadda
</body>
</html>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Source for page "manual_start.html"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<!DOCTYPE HTML SYSTEM>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<title>main page</title>
</head>
<body>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="height: 100%; width: 100%;">
<tr><td align="center" valign="middle">

<a href="run_video.html" target="_self">Click here to play the video</a>

</td></tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Source for page "run_video.html"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<!DOCTYPE HTML SYSTEM>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<title>main page</title>
</head>
<body>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="height: 100%; width: 100%;">
<tr><td align="center" valign="middle">

</td></tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Regards
Ralph

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Ralph Fox

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Jun 5, 2009, 6:51:20 AM6/5/09

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On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:51:32 +1200, in message <bhac25hrfa9r76d3i...@4ax.com>
Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

> 1. Wrapped links are harder to follow. Try this link instead...
>
> news:vfydnWY2W55zqeTb...@mozilla.org

Unfortunately this link doesn't work from Google Groups.
Google Groups tries to go to the message but fails; the
lookup by message-ID doesn['t work. I might guess that
Google Groups haven't indexed this message's message-ID.

_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Jul 17, 2009, 1:09:34 AM7/17/09

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Re: How to download/view a 2+ year old post...

News.Mozilla.ORG has this 2+ year old post:
news:vfydnWY2W55zqeTb...@mozilla.org
[ Google's “ selm=msg@ID ” doesn't find it ]

Just tell your newsReader to download it.
For help with that, see:
“ Six+ ways to track who's replying to whom ”
news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul15.10.15pm.gZ
www.Google.COM/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/1aa07d44dcf9c6e6
――――――――――――――――――――

On Google, the 2+ year old post is here:
www.Google.COM/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/9ac50c118362d149

It begins:
“ maya<maya7...@yahoo.com vfydnWY2W55zqeTb...@mozilla.org
Mozilla.Support.Firefox
2.07 Years ago, June 20, 2007, Gecko➤Thunder➤Windows
63.251.31.10➤Mozilla.ORG Title: embed video

hi, I'm embedding video
(windows media, can't change that.. it's at work..) ”.
―――――――――――

For those just now tuning in, the heritage of this post is:
[ oldest ancestor first ]
Kedar•Mhaswade<madhup...@gmail.com *1
Ralph•Fox news:bhac25hrfa9r76d3i...@4ax.com
Ralph•Fox news:9mth25lrq20rhp8kf...@4ax.com
Mozilla.Support.Firefox, Mozilla.Web-Developers.General
1.37 Months Ago, June 5th, ForteAgent 210.246.0.246➤Mozilla.ORG
Re: Not playing the flash video/audio by default ...
*1:
news:9c6bf47d-9873-45a7...@21g2000vbk.googlegroups.com

LU Wei

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Jul 17, 2009, 3:28:35 AM7/17/09

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_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote on 2009-7-17 13:09:
> Re: How to download/view a 2+ year old post...

What's the point of that? You can just start a new thread, provided
that your question is not listed in the FAQ (I don't see any FAQ post in
this group). Or if a specific message is needed, I think the proper
format is
news://<message-id> (correct me if wrong)
Anyway, TB does not recognize "news:message-id" format, though
messageID finder addon seems handle this (but messageID finder addon
disappears head view bar, hope the author get a fix).

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Regards,
LU Wei

_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:06:59 AM7/17/09

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This is a test to see if ThunderBird can download/display one of these:
news://<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
<news://_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
<news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
news:<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>

Google Groups, Windows Live Mail, 40tude Dialog, etc.
download articles from links like this:
news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb

This syntax also works via FireFox's URL bar,
provided you have Windows Live Mail and this:

; run: “ ftype | find /i "news" ”.
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Thunderbird.Url.news\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Mail\\wlMail.EXE\" /newsurl:\"%1\""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\news\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Mail\\wlMail.EXE\" /newsurl:\"%1\""

LU Wei

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:36:48 AM7/17/09

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_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote on 2009-7-17 17:06:
> This is a test to see if ThunderBird can download/display one of these:
> news://<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
> <news://_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
> <news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
> news:<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb>
>
> Google Groups, Windows Live Mail, 40tude Dialog, etc.
> download articles from links like this:
> news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Jul16.10.09pm.Fb
>

None of them could be recognized by TB. And I find that clicking those
links made TB kept creating new "news" account! That the cause of bug!
see message <h3kruc...@luweitest.vicp.net>

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Regards,
LU Wei