Expanded threads by default
John Corliss
I know about View | Threads | Expand All Threads (also done by pressing
the asterisk key) and that expands the current threads, but it doesn't
expand any new posts the next time I view the group until I do it again.
And what's even stranger, it's inconsistent. Some of the groups I view
always are shown with expanded thread and others aren't.
TIA
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John Corliss
John Corliss
Anybody?
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John Corliss
davematthew
Are there any config settings or extensions that can keep threads expanded?
Jeff Grossman
There is an open bug for it. Not much activity with it though.
UCLAN
Hmmm...threads are expanded by default with my version 5.
Make sure that VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD is selected as well as
VIEW->THREADS->EXPAND ALL THREADS.
New posts are shown threads expanded.
John Corliss
My preferred setting is View | Threads | All.
What's strange is that some newsgroups in other accounts _were_ showing
up as expanded by default, but in the last couple of days that stopped
happening.
If you remember to press the asterisk key (Shift-8) when you open a
newsgroup, that opens all the threads. Still, it's yet another
unresolved bug that's joined the pile.
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John Corliss
Stanimir Stamenkov
> My preferred setting is View | Threads | All.
>
> What's strange is that some newsgroups in other accounts _were_
> showing up as expanded by default, but in the last couple of days
> that stopped happening.
>
> If you remember to press the asterisk key (Shift-8) when you open a
> newsgroup, that opens all the threads. Still, it's yet another
> unresolved bug that's joined the pile.
Do you experience the problem with all/any newsgroup? The View
settings appear remembered per-group, so you'll have to choose View
-> Threads -> Expand All Threads [*] for all of the groups once (the
first time) you visit them individually.
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Stanimir
UCLAN
> UCLAN wrote:
>> Jeff Grossman wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How can I make the normal usenet view show expanded threads by default?
>>>> I know about View | Threads | Expand All Threads (also done by pressing
>>>> the asterisk key) and that expands the current threads, but it doesn't
>>>> expand any new posts the next time I view the group until I do it
>>>> again.
>>>> And what's even stranger, it's inconsistent. Some of the groups I view
>>>> always are shown with expanded thread and others aren't.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> There is an open bug for it. Not much activity with it though.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540844
>>
>> Hmmm...threads are expanded by default with my version 5.
>>
>> Make sure that VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD is selected as well as
>> VIEW->THREADS->EXPAND ALL THREADS.
>>
>> New posts are shown threads expanded.
>
> My preferred setting is View | Threads | All.
>
> What's strange is that some newsgroups in other accounts _were_ showing
> up as expanded by default, but in the last couple of days that stopped
> happening.
As I wrote, if you select VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD, your new posts will be
threaded and expanded when you open the group.
John Corliss
No, I've tried that. It doesn't work for me.
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John Corliss
John Corliss
Perhaps so, but won't that limit the viewable posts or threads to only
the unread ones?
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John Corliss
UCLAN
Yes. But I thought that was the intent.
>
Roy Smith
Hmmm... that's not the case with me.
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20110801-qam5-19kb
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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 5.0
Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:43:29 PM
UCLAN
In your screenshot, bold and standard SUBJECT headers are shown,
meaning you are viewing old and new messages. If you had REALLY
selected VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD, only new (unread) SUBJECT
headers would be shown (in BOLD.)
Go to VIEW->THREADS, and make sure you have selected UNREAD
(second choice.)
David Young
Are there any config settings or extensions that might help here?
Jeff Grossman
>I'm seeing this for email as well. Expanding all threads will expand the current threads, but any emails in new threads get buried in collapsed threads and are easy to miss. A partial workaround for email is the Conversations add-on, which helps to see additional emails for collapsed threads, but it only works for the currently focused thread.
>
>Are there any config settings or extensions that might help here?
I haven't found any yet. I don't use Thunderbird for newsgroups only
for e-mail and this is one of the biggest complaints I have. I
usually have my e-mail open when I am at home, and hate when new
messages come in they are buried in a thread instead of auto expanding
when they arrive.
Jeff
UCLAN
>> Go to VIEW->THREADS, and make sure you have selected UNREAD
>> (second choice.)
>
> But that only shows the unread threads, that is *_NOT_* what I want. I
> want to see all threads but only the threads with new messages expanded.
Then you are SOL, I'm afraid. Good thing, too. Many of the NG I visit
have more than a thousand posts on the server. Expanding all of an old
thread just because a reply is added months later is nonsensical. If
you *really* need to expand an old thread you are free to do so. But
as a default setting? Please no.
John Corliss
>>>> What's strange is that s^ome newsgroups in other accounts _were_ showing
>>>> showing up as expanded b^y default, but in the last couple of days that
>>>> stopped happening. ^
>>> ^
>>> As I wrote, if you select^ VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD, your new posts will
>>> be threaded and expanded ^when you open the group.
>> ^
>> Perhaps so, but won't that^ limit the viewable posts or threads to
>> only the unread ones? ^
> ^
> Yes. But I thought that was^ the intent.
^
Hmmm. Let got back up here---^
as in, I want to be able to see EVERYTHING, not just unread posts or
threads.
Either you or I have a failure to communicate going on here.
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John Corliss
UCLAN
>> ^ Yes. But I thought that was^ the intent.
> ^ Hmmm. Let got back up here---^
>
> as in, I want to be able to see EVERYTHING, not just unread posts or
> threads.
>
> Either you or I have a failure to communicate going on here.
I was going by an earlier post, when it was said:
"How can I make the normal usenet view show expanded
threads by default? I know about View | Threads |
Expand All Threads (also done by pressing the asterisk
key) and that expands the current threads, but it
*doesn't expand any new posts the next time I view the
group until I do it again."*
I took that as meaning that the writer wanted just new
posts displayed/expanded. I guess not.
David Young
> Yes. But I thought that was the intent.
>
It'd be nice to simply be able to view all threads and have them always expanded at the same time. That way you can navigate to any message easily while still viewing them in the thread structure.
UCLAN
> It'd be nice to simply be able to view all threads and have them
> always expanded at the same time. That way you can navigate to any
> message easily while still viewing them in the thread structure.
If I am looking for an old/read message, I prefer having the threads
collapsed, and only expanding the thread in which my desired message
resides. It makes things easier, IMO.
Ron Hunter
This is something foreign to me as I don't retain but a few messages in
newsgroups. Are you talking about email, or newsgroups? You can use
the collapse all threads, and expand all threads in the context menu,
then expand only the thread you are interested in.
Roy Smith
I guess you're right if you kept every post in a newsgroup, but I don't
have Thunderbird set up that way. First off I have it set to not
download any message that is over 30 days old. Then in the retention
policy, it's set to remove message bodies after 30 days, and remove
message headers after 90 days. Here's a screenshot of my settings:
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20110802-o9zg-89kb
So for example this news group only shows 2305 messages as of this
writing. As a result with the way I have TBird set up there would not
be that many old messages showing in a old message thread.
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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 5.0
Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:06:45 PM
John Corliss
Good for you, we're all happy that this is *your* preference. However,
other people, like me, have OTHER preferences. Can you grasp this fact???
You're trying to talk people out of their preferences. I'm sure you
wouldn't like having this done to you, so try to understand that others
don't like it when you do it to them.
And now, since you've drifted this thread so far away from my original
message, I will quote it here just to remind anybody who is following
this thread what it's supposed to be about:
> How can I make the normal usenet view show expanded threads by
> default? I know about View | Threads | Expand All Threads (also
> done by pressing the asterisk key) and that expands the current
> threads, but it doesn't expand any new posts the next time I view
> the group until I do it again. And what's even stranger, it's
> inconsistent. Some of the groups I view always are shown with
> expanded thread and others aren't.
>
> TIA
Summary:
HOW CAN I MAKE THE NORMAL USENET VIEW SHOW EXPANDED THREADS BY DEFAULT?
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John Corliss
UCLAN
> And now, since you've drifted this thread so far away from my original
> message, I will quote it here just to remind anybody who is following
> this thread what it's supposed to be about:
>
>> How can I make the normal usenet view show expanded threads by
>> default? I know about View | Threads | Expand All Threads (also
>> done by pressing the asterisk key) and that expands the current
>> threads, but it doesn't expand any new posts the next time I view
>> the group until I do it again. And what's even stranger, it's
>> inconsistent. Some of the groups I view always are shown with
>> expanded thread and others aren't.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Summary:
>
> HOW CAN I MAKE THE NORMAL USENET VIEW SHOW EXPANDED THREADS BY DEFAULT?
This has already been answered. You CAN'T make TB5 expand *ALL* (old &
new) threads until you select EXPAND ALL after you open the newsgroup.
You can make it show & expand *NEW* messages in threads by
selecting VIEW->THREADS->UNREAD. You can make it show all (old & new)
threads COLLAPSED by selecting VIEW->THREADS->ALL. Sometimes, this
choice is maintained after TB is closed and opened. Usually not.