TB 78 look

[BillH]

Is there any way in TB 78 to make the look be more like TB 68 and prior?

In the Folder list the new bright, "florescent" look is really
irritating for me and makes the font seem a bit blurry especially when
there are unread messages in the folder and it is in blue.

I also really prefer the old icons in the folder pane and the
highlighting when selecting a folder (black text with light blue
highlight rather than white text with dark blue highlight).

I don't see anything in the settings to have the classic look, but
thought maybe someone would know of a way using the config editor or
something. Is there any way to change any of this?

Thanks,
Bill
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[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 12:59 PM, BillH wrote:
> Is there any way in TB 78 to make the look be more like TB 68 and prior?
>
> In the Folder list the new bright, "florescent" look is really
> irritating for me and makes the font seem a bit blurry especially when
> there are unread messages in the folder and it is in blue.
>
> I also really prefer the old icons in the folder pane and the
> highlighting when selecting a folder (black text with light blue
> highlight rather than white text with dark blue highlight).
>
> I don't see anything in the settings to have the classic look, but
> thought maybe someone would know of a way using the config editor or
> something.  Is there any way to change any of this?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill

You can right-click on a folder in the Folder pane.
Select "Properties".
Change the color using the color picker next to the "Icon Color:" item.

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[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 9:59 AM, BillH wrote:
> Is there any way in TB 78 to make the look be more like TB 68 and prior?
>
> In the Folder list the new bright, "florescent" look is really
> irritating for me and makes the font seem a bit blurry especially when
> there are unread messages in the folder and it is in blue.
>
> I also really prefer the old icons in the folder pane and the
> highlighting when selecting a folder (black text with light blue
> highlight rather than white text with dark blue highlight).
>
> I don't see anything in the settings to have the classic look, but
> thought maybe someone would know of a way using the config editor or
> something.  Is there any way to change any of this?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill

I found that I had accidentally changed the theme to Light which caused
the dark blue highlight with white text. I changed that back to Default
which went back to the light blue highlight with black text.

That just leaves the bright, "florescent" look and the icons that would
be nice to change back to the classic TB look.

Any ideas?

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

>
> You can right-click on a folder in the Folder pane.
> Select "Properties".
> Change the color using the color picker next to the "Icon Color:" item.
>

Thanks for the reply, but that isn't what I'm trying to accomplish. It
is the bolder florescent look of the folders in the folder pain compared
to TB 68 and prior. My folders are the same color in TB 68 and TB 78,
but the TB 78 ones are much bolder and florescent looking.

In the image TB 78 is on the left and TB 68 on the right.

https://i.imgur.com/OSkwsTI.png

[Big Al]

I have modified a lot of the icons on my v68 copy with userChrome.css. Found 80% of the changes via google searches. Seems you're not the
only person disliking icons/colors. Full system themes are hard if impossible to find now compared to years ago.

Have you search around for any how-to pages for 78. I don't have that version to even grasp what you are talking about. And I may regret
the day considering what was done to Firefox over the past versions, but that's another story.

Al

[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 2:29 PM, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>>
>> You can right-click on a folder in the Folder pane.
>> Select "Properties".
>> Change the color using the color picker next to the "Icon Color:" item.
>>
>
> Thanks for the reply, but that isn't what I'm trying to accomplish.  It
> is the bolder florescent look of the folders in the folder pain compared
> to TB 68 and prior.  My folders are the same color in TB 68 and TB 78,
> but the TB 78 ones are much bolder and florescent looking.
>
> In the image TB 78 is on the left and TB 68 on the right.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/OSkwsTI.png
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

Walt knows what they look like. ;)

I didn't like them when I first saw them either, then decided I'm
spending the time reading and replying to emails and forum posts rather
than looking at the icons of the Folder pane.

[WaltS48]

Go to the Dark theme Bill.

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 11:20 AM, Big Al wrote:

>>
> I have modified a lot of the icons on my v68 copy with userChrome.css.
> Found 80% of the changes via google searches.  Seems you're not the only
> person disliking icons/colors.  Full system themes are hard if
> impossible to find now compared to years ago.
>
> Have you search around for any how-to pages for 78.  I don't have that
> version to even grasp what you are talking about.  And I may regret the
> day considering what was done to Firefox over the past versions, but
> that's another story.
>
> Al

Are these the icons in the folder list? I have never customized the
..css file so don't know anything about that.

I'm guessing what I'm seeing is the result of the change they made
related to this. I found this on the Thunderbird blog.

https://i.imgur.com/B2v893I.png

This shows better than my posted image how the new look is. Very
bright, bold, almost "florescent" for want of a better word. I liked
the old look much better. Wish I could get it back.

I have searched and searched but haven't found any way to customize this.

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 1:17 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

>
> Walt knows what they look like. ;)
>
> I didn't like them when I first saw them either, then decided I'm
> spending the time reading and replying to emails and forum posts rather
> than looking at the icons of the Folder pane.
>

I guess I'll have to either live with them or stick with 68.x.

Really there are no new features of 78.x that I really want or need.
Between this change to the folder pane and the requirement to enter my
Windows credentials to see my saved passwords, I'm not too fond of 78.x
at the moment.

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 1:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

>>
>
> Go to the Dark theme Bill.
>

I just don't like using dark themes. I've tried on numerous occasions
to use them, but just can't seem to come to terms with them. I guess
I'm just a dinosaur... give me black text on a white background.

[Wilf]

On 01/09/2020 at 21:41, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 1:17 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>>
>> Walt knows what they look like. ;)
>>
>> I didn't like them when I first saw them either, then decided I'm
>> spending the time reading and replying to emails and forum posts rather
>> than looking at the icons of the Folder pane.
>>
>
> I guess I'll have to either live with them or stick with 68.x.
>
> Really there are no new features of 78.x that I really want or need.
> Between this change to the folder pane and the requirement to enter my
> Windows credentials to see my saved passwords, I'm not too fond of 78.x
> at the moment.
>
> Bill
>

I wonder why you have to enter your Windows credentials to see your
saved passwords? I've just tried it via Options/Privacy/Saved Passwords.
Then to Show Passwords I only needed to input my TB master password, as
in all previous TB versions. I wonder what is different with your
installation?

Wilf

[WaltS48]

He probably doesn't have a Primary (formerly known as Master) password set.

"Thunderbird will now ask for OS account password before displaying
saved passwords" Should probably have "if no Primary password is set"
included.

<https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/>

I also believe it is Windows and Mac only at this time. I also thought
Mozilla disabled that after they included it in Firefox and had issues.

So hard to keep up.

[BillH]

I do not use a master password. I click on Saved Passwords and it gives
me a list of the logins. I click on Show Passwords and it asks for my
Windows credential. This is on TB 73.2.1.

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 3:05 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

> He probably doesn't have a Primary (formerly known as Master) password set.
>
> "Thunderbird will now ask for OS account password before displaying
> saved passwords" Should probably have "if no Primary password is set"
> included.
>
> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/>
>
> I also believe it is Windows and Mac only at this time. I also thought
> Mozilla disabled that after they included it in Firefox and had issues.
>
> So hard to keep up.
>

You are correct, I do not use a Master Password. An on TB 78, it
requires you to enter your Windows credentials in order to set up a
master password. I do not want to enter my Windows credentials into any
application including TB. Why do they need my credentials?

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 3:49 PM, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 2:20 PM, Wilf wrote:
>> On 01/09/2020 at 21:41, BillH wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I wonder why you have to enter your Windows credentials to see your
>> saved passwords? I've just tried it via Options/Privacy/Saved
>> Passwords. Then to Show Passwords I only needed to input my TB master
>> password, as in all previous TB versions.  I wonder what is different
>> with your installation?
>>
>> Wilf
>
> I do not use a master password.  I click on Saved Passwords and it gives
> me a list of the logins. I click on Show Passwords and it asks for my
> Windows credential.  This is on TB 73.2.1.
>
> Bill

Oops... I meant 78.2.1.

[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 6:53 PM, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 3:05 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>> He probably doesn't have a Primary (formerly known as Master) password
>> set.
>>
>> "Thunderbird will now ask for OS account password before displaying
>> saved passwords" Should probably have "if no Primary password is set"
>> included.
>>
>> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/>
>>
>> I also believe it is Windows and Mac only at this time. I also thought
>> Mozilla disabled that after they included it in Firefox and had issues.
>>
>> So hard to keep up.
>>
>
> You are correct, I do not use a Master Password.  An on TB 78, it
> requires you to enter your Windows credentials in order to set up a
> master password.  I do not want to enter my Windows credentials into any
> application including TB.  Why do they need my credentials?
>
> Bill

In your case it is the operating system asking for proof that it is
really you and not some hacker trying to steal your passwords. So it is
requesting your system password.

If you had a Primary password set, it would be Thunderbird asking for
the Thunderbird primary password.

[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 6:53 PM, BillH wrote:

> On 9/1/2020 3:05 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>> He probably doesn't have a Primary (formerly known as Master) password
>> set.
>>
>> "Thunderbird will now ask for OS account password before displaying
>> saved passwords" Should probably have "if no Primary password is set"
>> included.
>>
>> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/>
>>
>> I also believe it is Windows and Mac only at this time. I also thought
>> Mozilla disabled that after they included it in Firefox and had issues.
>>
>> So hard to keep up.
>>
>
> You are correct, I do not use a Master Password.  An on TB 78, it
> requires you to enter your Windows credentials in order to set up a
> master password.  I do not want to enter my Windows credentials into any
> application including TB.  Why do they need my credentials?
>
> Bill

Because it is Firefox code introduced into Firefox 76, that is now in
Thunderbird 78.

See
<https://www.ghacks.net/2020/03/18/firefox-may-soon-ask-for-the-windows-password-to-interact-with-saved-passwords/>

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 5:12 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

>
> In your case it is the operating system asking for proof that it is
> really you and not some hacker trying to steal your passwords. So it is
> requesting your system password.
>
> If you had a Primary password set, it would be Thunderbird asking for
> the Thunderbird primary password.
>

So if it is the system prompting for the password, how does that work.
Is it some API that Thunderbird uses to tell the OS that it needs some
type of verification and then the OS prompts me for the password and
then the OS signals Thunderbird that the verification was OK?

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 5:35 PM, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 5:12 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>>
>> In your case it is the operating system asking for proof that it is
>> really you and not some hacker trying to steal your passwords. So it
>> is requesting your system password.
>>
>> If you had a Primary password set, it would be Thunderbird asking for
>> the Thunderbird primary password.
>>
>
> So if it is the system prompting for the password, how does that work.
> Is it some API that Thunderbird uses to tell the OS that it needs some
> type of verification and then the OS prompts me for the password and
> then the OS signals Thunderbird that the verification was OK?
>
> Bill

I forgot to also add this.

So this means that Thunderbird never sees my Windows credentials only
the OS does? Is this true?

Thanks,

[Big Al]

Drop something like this into your profile/chrome/userChrome.css file.
if not there, make Chrome and userChrome.css
If linux, I think the names are case sensitive.


#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row {
-moz-appearance: none !important;
border: none !important;
color: red !important;
background-color: white !important; }
#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
color: red !important;
font-size: 16pt !important; }


I used red color just to see if it changes on you. If so then it's worth more work.

[BillH]

Thanks for the reply. I created the userChrome.css file with these
contents and nothing changed when I restarted TB 78.

I really don't speak the language of .css files. What were these
changes supposed to actually do?

Thanks,

[Dave Royal]

On 1 Sep 2020 21:42:38 -0700 BillH wrote:
>[On 9/1/2020 4:55 PM, Big Al wrote:]

>
>
>Thanks for the reply. I created the userChrome.css file with these
>contents and nothing changed when I restarted TB 78.
>

In about:config set this to true:
toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets

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[Wilf]

On 01/09/2020 at 23:05, WaltS48 wrote:
>> I wonder why you have to enter your Windows credentials to see your
>> saved passwords? I've just tried it via Options/Privacy/Saved Passwords.
>> Then to Show Passwords I only needed to input my TB master password, as
>> in all previous TB versions.  I wonder what is different with your
>> installation?
>>
>> Wilf
> He probably doesn't have a Primary (formerly known as Master) password set.
>
> "Thunderbird will now ask for OS account password before displaying
> saved passwords" Should probably have "if no Primary password is set"
> included.
>
> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.0/releasenotes/>
>
> I also believe it is Windows and Mac only at this time. I also thought
> Mozilla disabled that after they included it in Firefox and had issues.
>
> So hard to keep up.

Ah, ok. Many thanks. As you say, it's hard to keep up!

Wilf

[dillinger]

On 9/2/20 2:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> You are correct, I do not use a Master Password.  An on TB 78, it
>> requires you to enter your Windows credentials in order to set up a
>> master password.  I do not want to enter my Windows credentials into
>> any application including TB.  Why do they need my credentials?
>>
>> Bill
>
> In your case it is the operating system asking for proof that it is
> really you and not some hacker trying to steal your passwords. So it is
> requesting your system password.
>
> If you had a Primary password set, it would be Thunderbird asking for
> the Thunderbird primary password.

That's a chicken & egg problem.
Set security.osreauthenticator.blank_password to true in about:config
and don't be bothered again (as long as it works)

[Big Al]

On 9/2/20 2:22 AM, this is what Dave Royal wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2020 21:42:38 -0700 BillH wrote:
>> [On 9/1/2020 4:55 PM, Big Al wrote:]
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I created the userChrome.css file with these
>> contents and nothing changed when I restarted TB 78.
>>
> In about:config set this to true:
> toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
>

Thanks Dave. I could not remember the setting and was trying to find my notes from firefox and see if the same was true for TB. I'll
have to make a note of this for the day I get to 78.

Al

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 11:22 PM, Dave Royal wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2020 21:42:38 -0700 BillH wrote:
>> [On 9/1/2020 4:55 PM, Big Al wrote:]
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I created the userChrome.css file with these
>> contents and nothing changed when I restarted TB 78.
>>
> In about:config set this to true:
> toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
>

Thanks Dave... that did cause Big Al's changes to take effect.

[BillH]

Dave's suggestion did cause your changes to take effect. They changed
the text to red and made it larger. Were you going to suggest other
changes that might get rid of the florescent effect of TB 68. I would
be appreciative, but I wouldn't want to have you spend too much time on
it as I guess I could get used to it over time.

[Stans]

On 01/09/2020 23:44, BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 1:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Go to the Dark theme Bill.
>>
>
> I just don't like using dark themes.  I've tried on numerous occasions
> to use them, but just can't seem to come to terms with them.  I guess
> I'm just a dinosaur... give me black text on a white background.
>
> Bill
>

The css sample script you were given is incomplete and won't work.
1. Create a folder called "chrome" inside your profile folder
2. Create the userChrome.css file inside this folder. If you
accidentally save the file as a ".css.txt" file, it won't work.
3. The css file must start with the following line:

@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

4. Apply the Config Editor tweak

I have my folders set to different colours using the following css script:

@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/* All non-special folders, e.g those you create */
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol){
fill: #663300 !important;
}

/* Mailbox icons next to the account names */
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, isServer-true) {
fill: #00b386 !important;
}

/* Inbox */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Inbox"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox) {
fill: #0da50d !important;
}

/* Sent */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Sent"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Sent) {
fill: #ff4000 !important;
}

/* Trash */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Trash"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Trash) {
fill: #ff0000 !important;
}

/* Junk */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Junk"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Junk) {
fill: #ff0066 !important;
}

/* Archives */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Archive"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Archive) {
fill: #b300b3 !important;
}

/* Templates */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Templates"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Templates) {
fill: #1a1aff !important;
}

/* Drafts */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Drafts"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Drafts) {
fill: #751aff !important;
}

/* Outbox */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Outbox"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Outbox) {
fill: #ff4000 !important;
}

/* Saved Search Folder */
.tabmail-tab[type="folder"][SpecialFolder="Virtual"],
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Virtual) {
fill: #33cccc !important;
}

5. Pick whichever colour you want. See
https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_picker.asp and use their
respective codes, e.g #33cccc instead of the ones in my css script
above. Here's the result of my css on TB 78 using the default theme:
https://i.vgy.me/WCpJou.png

6. Restart Tbird.

[Stans]

Forgot to mention, this is an adaptation of another contributor's script
in the forum. Matt, I think, who did the digging into Tbird's code to
find the css identifiers of the elements.

[BillH]

On 9/2/2020 7:43 AM, Stans wrote:

>>
> The css sample script you were given is incomplete and won't work.
> 1. Create a folder called "chrome" inside your profile folder
> 2. Create the userChrome.css file inside this folder. If you
> accidentally save the file as a ".css.txt" file, it won't work.
> 3. The css file must start with the following line:
>
> @namespace
> url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
>
> 4. Apply the Config Editor tweak
>
> I have my folders set to different colours using the following css script:
>

---snip---

>
> 6. Restart Tbird.
>

Stans, thanks for the reply. Actually the script worked just fine. I
went in and changed the color to black and made the font size 9. I
don't want different colors for different folders.

Now my folder pane looks like this.

https://i.imgur.com/dz4taDC.png

This is really good and I could live with this. The only thing is that
it is not highlighting folders with new unread messages which is nice.
Is there any way to make that happen?

Thanks,

[BillH]

I see that actually the changes you suggested do change the size and
color of the text, but they still have the same "florescent" effect that
they have without your script. I'm not sure if we can get rid of this.
It is probably due to the changes TB made in this version.

Oh well... I'll just learn to live with it I guess. Thanks for the
effort though.

[Stans]

I don't see this "florescence" you speak of. I'm looking at the
side-by-side snip of 78 vs 68 in your earlier post and I can't see the
difference in the text.

[BillH]

On 9/2/2020 10:06 AM, Stans wrote:

> I don't see this "florescence" you speak of. I'm looking at the
> side-by-side snip of 78 vs 68 in your earlier post and I can't see the
> difference in the text.
>

Stans... don't know what to say. It is obvious to me. The blue text
indicating new unread messages in that folder is bolder, larger, and
brighter than the same text in TB 68.

The screen print had just one account. When multiplied by a whole
folder list of accounts it is glaring to me.

[WaltS48]

No .css file in use here and my Folder pane looks like that using the
Default Thunderbird theme.

But we want our manila folder icons back.

I can't find folders in the local office stores or online that are just
empty outlines. ;)

[BillH]

:)

I know... it is hard to describe or show what the new effect is in a
screenshot. All I can say is if you have both 68.x and 78.x running at
the same time, compare the folder panes. It is really obvious that they
are different if you have new unread messages in the folders. The new
look font is brighter and bolder which is very jarring.

I can live with it, but it is not as pleasing as the old look.

[Big Al]

You can just edit the new userchrome.css now and change that word red to black.
You'll now have black on white. You can change the 16pt to more or less for the font size.
This is the nice part of css. Yes, I know you may not know it, but you can sure change red to black, or 16 to 14 etc.

I find lots of code written by others to solve TB issues and I just change it to suit my eyes and system (resolution). That's why the
16pt. I wanted bigger fonts.

I was going to send this and I am, but it doesn't seem to work as stand alone. There is highlighting for hover over different folders but
when I put it in, it doesn't work. It does in context of my own larger css file but that's some 1000 lines of code with over a dozen
images. Way too much. I should pack it one day and put it up somewhere. I may one day make a github account.

Try replacing all of this below anyway into your css file, or make a new one and backup what you have, since I see you got black working so
far. You can delete the last 6 lines. I use those to change the spacing between lines so I get more lines in the folder tree. I read a lot
of newsgroups and I wanted to tighten up the line spacing. All these colors are up to you as well as sizes of lines and fonts.
I'll take a few minutes now and then for my own curiosity as to why the "hover" field doesn't work for me. It does highlight the selected
folder however.

Al




/**********************************************************/
/* keep in this order for the folder tree
***********************************************************/

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row {
-moz-appearance: none !important;
border: none !important;

color: black !important;
background-color: #F2F7F7 !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(selected) {
border: none !important;
background-color: #476B6B !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(selected, focus) { /* Focused background bar */
background-color: #476B6B !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected), /* need to keep this in */
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected, focus) {/* Focused font */
color: #FFFFFF !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(hover) {
border: none !important;
background-color: #5C8A8A !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hover) {
color: #FFFFFF !important; }

/* make account with new mail colorful and bold */
#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true, biffState-NewMail,) {
font-weight: bold !important; color: black !important; }
#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text { font-size: 14pt !important; }
/* After adjusting the font size(s), you need the spacing between the lines adjusted */
#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-row { height: 20px !important; }

[Big Al]

Thanks. I like the coloring work.

[BillH]

Thanks for the new script. Unfortunately, for me this did not cause the
folders with new unread mail to be colorful and bold. Everything looks
just the same. I even tried change the color to blue in this line:

#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true,
biffState-NewMail,) {
font-weight: bold !important; color: blue !important; }

but that didn't make any difference.

[dillinger]

Nice, for those of you who want to spend more time on coloring icons
here's something I used when the svg icons were first introduced to the
toolbars:

/* Colorize svg icons */

/* Colorize all icons (the default color is currentColor) */
.toolbarbutton-icon,
.toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
.toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker {
fill: highlight;
}

/* Don't colorize icons on the navigation toolbox toolbars */
#navigation-toolbox > toolbar > toolbar .toolbarbutton-icon,
#navigation-toolbox > toolbar > toolbar
.toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#navigation-toolbox > toolbar > toolbar .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker {
fill: currentColor !important;
}

/* Colorize some icons */
#button-newmsg .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-newmsg .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#button-address .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrForwardButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrFollowupButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrFollowupButton .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#button-replyall .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-replytolist .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-followup .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-forward .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-send .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-nextUnread .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-notJunk .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-goback .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-goback .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#button-goforward .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-goforward .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#statusTypeIcon[status="available"] .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker {
fill: green;
}

#otherActionsButton .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker,
#button-appmenu .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-getmsg .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-getmsg .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#hdrReplyButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrReplyButton .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#hdrReplyToSenderButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrReplyToSenderButton .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#hdrReplyAllButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrReplyAllButton .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker,
#hdrReplyAllDropdown .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrReplyAllDropdown .toolbarbutton-menubutton-dropmarker {
fill: blue;
}

#button-chat .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-add-buddy .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-join-chat .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-chat-accounts .toolbarbutton-icon,
#statusTypeIcon[status="unavailable"] .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker {
fill: crimson;
}

#hdrArchiveButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-tag .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-tag .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker,
#button-mark .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-mark .toolbarbutton-menu-dropmarker {
fill: maroon;
}

#button-isJunk .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrJunkButton .toolbarbutton-icon {
fill: orange;
}

/* Colorize some icons (make stop, close and delete button icons red) */
#button-stop .toolbarbutton-icon,
#button-mark-deleted .toolbarbutton-icon,
#hdrTrashButton .toolbarbutton-icon,
.tab-close-button .toolbarbutton-icon {
fill: red;
}

[Big Al]

I didn't think it would. As I said this is an extract from a large css file. I tried it to and couldn't get the hover to work and other
highlights, but I'm on Linux and version 68. So I've probably got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel as they say.

It was a try. I'm glad you at least got the vibrant blue out of the system. I'll try one day moving to my Windows machine. I'm curious as
hell why this doesn't work. I'll be on version 78 one day too and I'll need to tackle this too I'm sure.

Have fun.
Al

[Stans]

It worked for me, with a little correction as follows:

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true,
biffState-NewMail) {
font-weight: bold !important; color: red !important; }

[BillH]

Thanks for this change to the script. This did work, but now it looks
just like it did with no .css file. I'm sure it is because of the new
method they are using to display the folder pane. I guess it just
bolder, brighter, and in your face than the old method. I don't really
like it, but I'll just have to learn to live with it.

Thanks,

[BillH]

On 9/2/2020 7:59 PM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 9/2/20 10:38 AM, this is what BillH wrote:

> Thanks for the new script.  Unfortunately, for me this did not cause the
> folders with new unread mail to be colorful and bold.  Everything looks
> just the same.  I even tried change the color to blue in this line:
>
> #folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true,
> biffState-NewMail,) {
>      font-weight: bold !important; color: blue !important; }
>
> but that didn't make any difference.
>
> Bill

Thanks for all your help on this. I think I am just going to have to
live with the way it looks. I'm sure it has to do with the new method
TB uses to display the folder pane.

Thanks,

[Stans]

The following worked too (for folder name; the previous one worked for
the account name):

#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol,
newMessages-true) {
font-weight: normal !important;
color: #219E21 !important;
}

If you prefer the folder name to NOT be bold when it has a new message.

Borrowed from here
http://www.linnhe2.free-online.co.uk/thunderbird/chrome.html#Folder%20pane%20-%20unread%20mail%20and%20new%20mail%20display

[BillH]

Stans, thanks for this additional info.. it worked very well. I guess
the only thing I'd like to change is to have all account names not as
bold and folders with old unread messages not as bold.

So...

1. Would it be possible to change the weight of all accounts from bold
to 500?

2. Would it be possible to change the weight of folders with old unread
messages from bold to 500?

Thanks,

[BillH]

I tried this code for the folders with unread messages, but it didn't
work. Did I make a mistake?

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol,
hasUnreadMessages-true) {
font-weight: 600 !important;
color: Black !important;

[BillH]

I figured out a way to do it. I change all accounts regardless of
biff-State and then change those with biffSate-NewMail.

/* make account with new mail less bold and blue */

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true) {
font-weight: 600 !important; color: black !important; }

/* make account with new mail less bold and blue */

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true,
biffState-NewMail) {
font-weight: 600 !important; color: royalblue !important; }

This gives me what I need.

Thanks to everyone for their help. Thanks especially to Stans and Big
Al for their suggestions.

[Big Al]

I finally got on my windows machine and nothing I did worked to get the text red when there was new mail. As Stan has pointed out, I think
in my original code there must have been errors I never noticed. In googling I found the issue I think the same that Stan found.
#folderTree > tree.... or #folderTree tree... look the same but no > character.
There there was on google (etc) different posts about the (state).
I finally landed on this that seems to work for me.
#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{color: red !important;}
And I might suggest to BillH that instead of red use #FF6666, it's kinda dark red or burgundy, maybe not as bright. And anyplace you see
'bold' change it to 'normal'.

Anyway to end my part in this 4000 line thread on this subject, here is the whole userchrome.css I finally got working with more subdued
highlighting etc on my win 10 pro with TB 78.2.1
The last two lines are for spacing and font size. Kill or modify as you wish.
I think BillH has way too much now. LOL

@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/**********************************************************/
/* keep in this order for the folder tree
***********************************************************/
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row {
-moz-appearance: none !important;
border: none !important;
color: black !important;
background-color: #F2F7F7 !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(selected) {
border: none !important;

background-color: #90bbbb !important; }

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(selected, focus) { /* Focused background bar */

background-color: #90bbbb !important; }

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected), /* need to keep this in */
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected, focus) {/* Focused font */
color: #FFFFFF !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(hover) {
border: none !important;

background-color: #b0cfcf !important; }

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hover) {
color: #FFFFFF !important; }

/* make account with new mail colorful and bold */

#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{color: #FF6666 !important;}

/* font size and row spacing */

#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text { font-size: 14pt !important; }

#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-row { height: 16px !important; }

[BillH]

On 9/3/2020 8:25 AM, Big Al wrote:

> Anyway to end my part in this 4000 line thread on this subject, here is
> the whole userchrome.css I finally got working with more subdued
> highlighting etc on my win 10 pro with TB 78.2.1
> The last two lines are for spacing and font size.  Kill or modify as you
> wish.
> I think BillH has way too much now. LOL

Thanks for these examples. You probably missed it in the 4000 line
thread, but I got it to work using slightly different code. I'm now
going through trying to find what colors work best for me.

Thanks for all your help!

[Nobody]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:12:41 -0400, WaltS48 <sch...@invalid.net> wrote:

>On 9/1/20 12:59 PM, BillH wrote:
>> Is there any way in TB 78 to make the look be more like TB 68 and prior?
>>
>> In the Folder list the new bright, "florescent" look is really
>> irritating for me and makes the font seem a bit blurry especially when
>> there are unread messages in the folder and it is in blue.
>>
>> I also really prefer the old icons in the folder pane and the
>> highlighting when selecting a folder (black text with light blue
>> highlight rather than white text with dark blue highlight).
>>
>> I don't see anything in the settings to have the classic look, but
>> thought maybe someone would know of a way using the config editor or
>> something.  Is there any way to change any of this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>
>You can right-click on a folder in the Folder pane.
>Select "Properties".
>Change the color using the color picker next to the "Icon Color:" item.

In a fit of boredom, looking at my TB 78.2.1, I really would like to
override the default 'bright blue' for the icon used in any and all
'account name' entries in the folder pane.

Right-clicking on that doesn't generate a 'Properties' prompt in the
same way as with sub-folders, at least for me on Win 10.

I'd prefer, in as I say a fit of boredom, to assign a specific colour
to a Whole Account, icons for the name and subsequent folders, so that
my ISP's POP3, my ISP's IMAP, and any other web-based accounts, along
with Local Folders and Mozilla Usenet groups could have matching name
and folder colours.

I mean, this is really important... NOT! <g>

[Stans]

You are welcome.

[Big Al]

The good bottom line is that you got it working, or at least bettered the appearance. Perfection may never be achieved but.... <grin>

One other comment. If you are using colors like royalblue or blue or black, it can be noted that words for colors are limited. There are
only so many names.

http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color/#4169E1 (remove the /#4169E1 if you wish) allows you to pick one of the many color names and it
will convert it to a hex code, like #4169E1. Same-o same-o. But if you look at the dot in the color box, you can drag that dot and make
small changes to that color and as you do the hex code #...... will change. With a hex code, you can get hundreds even thousands of colors.
Rotating the dot on the outside ring changes the hue of the color, like from blue to red and infinite colors between.

I'm sure there's a million web sites but here's one with color names and sample swatches.
http://www.html-color-names.com/color-chart.php

https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_names.asp is pretty good as you can click on a color and it shows it with different sample text
colors. Better for backgrounds though.
or https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_picker.asp also better probably for backgrounds.

Al

[Zaidy036]

Look at <https://htmlcolorcodes.com/color-picker/> for some help in
choosing codes

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, at 17:44:49 +0300,
*-* In Article
<mailman.69.1599144297.1...@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* Stans wrote
*-* About Re: TB 78 look

[ ... ]

> Borrowed from here
> http://www.linnhe2.free-online.co.uk/thunderbird/chrome.html#Folder%20pane%20-%20unread%20mail%20and%20new%20mail%20display

Thanks for that link. It gave me a starting point for a change I
wanted to make in my folder pane.

Ken Whiton
--
FIDO: 1:132/152
InterNet: kenw...@surfglobal.net.INVAL (remove the obvious to reply)

[BillH]

Thanks again. I'll bookmark these.

[BillH]

Thanks

[WaltS48]

On 9/4/20 10:23 PM, Ken Whiton wrote:
> *-* On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, at 17:44:49 +0300,
> *-* In Article
> <mailman.69.1599144297.1...@lists.mozilla.org>,
> *-* Stans wrote
> *-* About Re: TB 78 look
>
>           [ ... ]
>
>> Borrowed from here
>> http://www.linnhe2.free-online.co.uk/thunderbird/chrome.html#Folder%20pane%20-%20unread%20mail%20and%20new%20mail%20display
>>
>
>      Thanks for that link.  It gave me a starting point for a change I
> wanted to make in my folder pane.
>
>                                         Ken Whiton

In your version 1.5.0.14?

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Sat, 5 Sep 2020, at 10:03:28 -0400,
*-* In Article
<mailman.80.1599314621.1...@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* WaltS48 wrote

*-* About Re: TB 78 look

> On 9/4/20 10:23 PM, Ken Whiton wrote:

>> *-* Stans wrote

>> [ ... ]

>>> Borrowed from here
>>> http://www.linnhe2.free-online.co.uk/thunderbird/chrome.html#Folder%20pane%20-%20unread%20mail%20and%20new%20mail%20display

>> Thanks for that link. It gave me a starting point for a
>> change I wanted to make in my folder pane.

> In your version 1.5.0.14?

Yes.

[BillH]

On 9/1/2020 11:20 AM, Big Al wrote:

>>
> I have modified a lot of the icons on my v68 copy with userChrome.css.
> Found 80% of the changes via google searches.  Seems you're not the only
> person disliking icons/colors.  Full system themes are hard if
> impossible to find now compared to years ago.

I have searched and searched, but can't find any instructions on how to
change an icon for a folder in the folder pane that I can understand. I
see that it is done through userChrome.css and userChrome.js, but after
reading peoples descriptions I am very confused.

Would you be able to share how you were able to change an icon?

Thanks,

[Big Al]

On 9/9/20 7:32 PM, this is what BillH wrote:
> On 9/1/2020 11:20 AM, Big Al wrote:
>
>>>
>> I have modified a lot of the icons on my v68 copy with userChrome.css. Found 80% of the changes via google searches.  Seems you're not the
>> only person disliking icons/colors.  Full system themes are hard if impossible to find now compared to years ago.
>
> I have searched and searched, but can't find any instructions on how to change an icon for a folder in the folder pane that I can
> understand.  I see that it is done through userChrome.css and userChrome.js, but after reading peoples descriptions I am very confused.
>
> Would you be able to share how you were able to change an icon?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>

I just took a look at my screen and I don't see that I've changed any icons in the folder pane. I've done icon changes to the toolbar
buttons and menu icons. I didn't realize until I put this all in this post, just how many icons I changed. There are 58 icons in my
chrome/images folder with 120+ lines of code in userchome.css. So it's way too extensive to put here, I will need to make some zip or such
and store it some place. Here is just the first group of icons. They are all 256x256 and they get scaled by the css code. You can use
images.google.com to find images.

Again, it's hard to say if this is going to work out of context. I'm going to look around at how other people have posted TB changes and
see if I can replicate mine the same way. I just made a github account and have been playing with how to post large scale jobs like complex
Linux Mint desktop themes and icon themes, so maybe a TB theme can be posted there.

The other issue is, I'm using version 68, how do these translate to later versions. I've looked at the folder icons and can't seem to
extract the names of the icons so I can put them into css code.

Al.

#appmenu_new { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-new.png") !important; }
#appmenu_msgAttachmentMenu { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-attachment.png") !important; }
#appmenu_find { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-search.png") !important; }
#appmenu_print { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-print.png") !important; }
#appmenu_saveAs { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-save.png") !important; }
#appmenu_emptyTrash { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-trash.png") !important; }
#appmenu_activityManager { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-activity.png") !important; }
#appmenu_filters { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-filter.png") !important; }
#appmenu_addons { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-addons.png") !important; }
#appmenu_customize { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-customize.png") !important; }
#appmenu_tasksMenu { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-tools.png") !important; }
#appmenu_help { list-style-image: url("./images/appmenu-help.png") !important; }
..toolbarbutton-1 .toolbarbutton-icon { width: 24px !important; height: 24px !important; }

[BillH]

Thanks Al. It is really the folder icons that I want to change. I
found some code examples to do it, but can't seem to make them work.
They involve using code like this, but were written for older versions
of TB.

treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, name-Inbox)
{list-style-image: url("inbox.png") !important;}

I tried this as well...

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, name-Inbox)
{list-style-image: url("inbox.png") !important;}

Neither of these worked for me.

I had my inbox.png icon file in the same folder as the userChrome.css
which is what it said to do.

[BillH]

I finally figured out how to change the icon. I used this code.

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol,
specialFolder-Inbox) {list-style-image: url("inbox.png") !important;}

I used a 16x16 .png file.

However, no matter what image I use, it never displays the entire image
in the folder pane.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I can't find any definitive info on
what the file details have to be.

Does anyone know what I have to do to an image to make it display
properly as an icon in the folder pane?

Thanks,

[BillH]

OK... after much playing around I find that the images I downloaded for
icons work fine in TB 78, but not in TB 68. Don't know why. I was just
testing in TB 68... I like the icons just fine. They work in TB 78 so
I'm all set.

[Big Al]

Try:

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox) {
list-style-image: url("inbox.png") !important;

width: 16px !important;
height: 16px !important; }

however without the width and height lines, I got my 16x16 png image to work.

[Big Al]

Yep, don't work for me either. Even in Linux with ver 68 which I think usually always work.

PS. rather than repeat the {list style... } line you can combine multiple names like
treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, name-Inbox),

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, name-Inbox)
{list-style-image: url("inbox.png") !important;}

Just put a comma after all but the last.

[Big Al]

Not sure what to say. I tried your 2nd fixed code and with my 16x16 icons I got them to work. I did try 48x48 icons and tried that sizing
down but it didn't work. I got the bottom left corner of the icon.

#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Sent) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/sent.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Drafts) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/drafts.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Archive) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/archive.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Trash) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/trash.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Junk) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/junk.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/inbox.png") !important; }
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-image(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Outbox) {
list-style-image: url("images/16/outbox.png") !important; }

[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 12:59 PM, BillH wrote:
> Is there any way in TB 78 to make the look be more like TB 68 and prior?
>
> In the Folder list the new bright, "florescent" look is really
> irritating for me and makes the font seem a bit blurry especially when
> there are unread messages in the folder and it is in blue.
>
> I also really prefer the old icons in the folder pane and the
> highlighting when selecting a folder (black text with light blue
> highlight rather than white text with dark blue highlight).
>
> I don't see anything in the settings to have the classic look, but
> thought maybe someone would know of a way using the config editor or
> something.  Is there any way to change any of this?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill

However, I do think the Folder Pane in TB 68.x.x looks much better than
it does in 78.x.x.

[BillH]

I agree. I've been able to change the boldness and font colors in TB 78
which helps for me. I have changed the icons for the special folders
(Inbox, Sent, etc.) which helps.

I wish I could change the icons for non-special folders (folders under
local folders in particular) and for account names, but there doesn't
seem to be a way to change those in userChrome.css.

[Edward]

In Thunderbird 68 and prior, I use/used the Manually Sort Folders add-on
to sort the accounts in the Folder Pane. Since only one known add-on now
works with Thunderbird 78, is it now possible in 78 to sort the accounts
in the Folder Pane, without this add-on?

Thanks in advance.

[WaltS48]

Never used the extension, there is View > Folders with many selections.

Don't know what the one known add-on is, but I have Compact Headers,
Emoji 😀 and Message Header Toolbar Customize installed.

The Thunderbird Conversations and Provider for Google Calendar also can
be installed and used, and many more.

[Edward]

Manually Sort Folders allows the user to sort the accounts in the Folder
Pane in any order they wish.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/manually-sort-folders/?src=search

[WaltS48]

I never needed that.

Unified folders puts all the accounts Inboxes at the top.
Favorite folders puts all the folders marked favorite at the top.
Unread puts all the folders with unread messages at the top.
Recent puts recently used folders at the top.
All puts all folders under each account in the order the account was
created.

I have never tried creating a profile with Blogs and Feeds as the first
account, then newsgroups, then email accounts. I'm pretty sure email
accounts have the priority.

I tried to find the list I saw of extensions compatible with version 78
and couldn't. Probably should have bookmarked that one and not told
Firefox to forget the site in my history. Oops!

[BillH]

I also use the manually sort folders extension to sort my accounts. It
does not work in TB 78. There is no way to sort accounts in TB 78
without that extension. I have written to the author. You might do the
same. Hopefully he will update the extension.

[Edward]

On 9/12/20 6:50 PM, BillH wrote:

> I also use the manually sort folders extension to sort my accounts.  It
> does not work in TB 78. There is no way to sort accounts in TB 78
> without that extension.  I have written to the author.  You might do the
> same.  Hopefully he will update the extension.
>
> Bill

Found this:

https://github.com/protz/Manually-Sort-Folders/issues/102#issuecomment-654341244

[Steve]

Thunderbird MailExtension or 78 Compatible (119)

https://cleidigh.github.io/ThunderKdB/xall/extension-list-tbmx.html

[BillH]

On 9/12/2020 4:52 PM, Steve wrote:

> Thunderbird MailExtension or 78 Compatible (119)
>
> https://cleidigh.github.io/ThunderKdB/xall/extension-list-tbmx.html
>

Thanks for the list. Wouldn't you know it... I use 5 extensions and
none are on the list. I believe that the authors are planning on
converting Columns Wizard and Folder Account. Looks like some of the
capabilities of Manually Sort Folders may be incorporated into TB
(although I'll believe it when I see it). No word on ConfirmFolderMove
and gContactSync.

[Arthur Conan Doyle]

BillH <bhte...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>No word on ConfirmFolderMove
>and gContactSync.

I had to switch to CardBook since gContactSync wasn 't working. Seems to have
everything gContactSync had, plus a few additional things. Was a bit confusing
at first as the old Google address book was still visible in TB even after
installing CardBook. Just wasn't syncing, of course. CardBook has its own
separate address book, but integrates just fine.

[BillH]

Thanks for the reply. I looked at it last time gContactSync needed to
be updated for a new release. I can't remember, but as I recall it was
so complicated I couldn't figure it out.

A couple questions if you don't mind since I don't remember.

Can it do one way syncing from Google to TB? I don't want to sync the
other way.

Does it support syncing of mailing lists? I tried TBSync as a
replacement last time and it was pretty good, but it couldn't sync
mailing lists.

Thanks,

[Arthur Conan Doyle]

BillH <bhte...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Can it do one way syncing from Google to TB? I don't want to sync the
>other way.

CardBook does not appear to offer one way syncs.

[BillH]

On 9/13/2020 11:53 AM, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:

>
>> Can it do one way syncing from Google to TB? I don't want to sync the
>> other way.
>
> CardBook does not appear to offer one way syncs.
>

How about syncing mailing lists?

I could probably live with two way syncing if I were to make sure never
to update the address book in TB and just in Google.

[Arthur Conan Doyle]

BillH <bhte...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>How about syncing mailing lists?
>
>I could probably live with two way syncing if I were to make sure never
>to update the address book in TB and just in Google.

Theoretically.

I don't use mailing lists, so my testing was quick and limited. My Google
Contacts categories do not show up in CardBook. CardBook allows you to create a
list in TB, and the list name is sync'd to Google. However, when I look at the
list entry in Google Contacts, there is no detail contained in it and it can't
be used on the Google Mail portal to send a message.

Cardbook has an options tab for Lists, but the workaround suggested (custom
fields) was more effort than I wanted to invest.

[BillH]

Thanks again for the reply. I think that is why I gave up on Cardbook
last time I looked at it. It was too complicated.

I hope gContactSync gets updated for TB 78. It works great and is easy
to use and supports both one way syncing and mailing lists.