TB 45.7.1, gmail behaves like gmai has not been activated for IMAP/POP3

[king daddy 2]

I have deleted TB account and tried again.  Still same response to "Get Mail"
One of several 'help web pages:
(from 2011)
http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2011/01/30/gmail-pop3-configuration/
and
https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854

   

Below is what I posted in google gmail forum

My first gmail account.
I do have Settings: Status: POP is enabled for all mail

Password works with IMAP.

Thunderbird... (45.7.1)
Configuration could not be verified...

So I went to Manual configuration (Been using TB for many years).

Type in password again

Sending of password for user (me)@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Web login required: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754

So I go there and follow instructions.
...
If the tips above didn't help, visit https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and follow the steps on the page.

From here it gets to be a recursive loop, but account IS activated.. And I know the password is correct because IMAP works.

I deleted the TB account, and tried again.

Same result.

I don't know what to look for.   Help!

Carl

[Big Al]

On 02/23/2017 08:51 AM, king daddy 2 wrote:
>
>
> I have deleted TB account and tried again. Still same response to "Get
> Mail"
> One of several 'help web pages:
> (from 2011)
> http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2011/01/30/gmail-pop3-configuration/
> and
> https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
>
>
>
> Below is what I posted in google gmail forum
>
>
> My first gmail account.
> I do have Settings: Status: POP is enabled for all mail
> Password works with IMAP.
>
> Thunderbird... (45.7.1)
> Configuration could not be verified...
> So I went to Manual configuration (Been using TB for many years).
>
> Type in password again
>
> Sending of password for user (me)@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server

> pop.gmail.com responded: _Web login required_:

> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
>
> So I go there and follow instructions.
> ...
> If the tips above didn't help, visit
> https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and follow the
> steps on the page.
>
> From here it gets to be a recursive loop, but account IS activated.. And
> I know the password is correct because IMAP works.
>
> I deleted the TB account, and tried again.
>
> Same result.
> I don't know what to look for. Help!
>
>
> Carl

Not sure of the settings you use but for pop I'm using
Full email address, with the @gmail.com and these settings. And it's
worked for quite a while for me.

(Incoming)Server Settings: pop.googlemail.com
Port: 995
SSL/TLS
normal password

Outgoing Server: smtp.googlemail.com
Port: 465
SSL/TLS
normal password.

[king daddy 2]

Yes, I always use the full email address.

I have run out of things to try,
Even different passwords
If I use SSL/TLs, the message I get

Web login required_:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 ; "web login required," so I do that song and dance. Nothing changes.

If I change it to STARTTLS, no error message and it is waiting for server response...
"Connecting to pop.gmail.com... "and times out after a minute, and gives message "
"No messages to download"
Repeats that sequence again, and stops after that.

I have the gmail POP settings I get all, even if already done.
I send test emails. IMAP works.

This "feels like" it is not connecting to the pop.gmail.com server. but did not receive an exception.
If the server is unavailable, I would expect a message.
====================================
Maybe this is important. Again I tried delete account/ New account
Every time I have done this with POP3,
Message, "Configuration could not be verified -- is the username or password wrong?"
That's when I go to "Manual Config"

Now I wonder if the POP3 server does not have me, yet. Is there a delay as to when the POP server configuration gets
updated? I'll try tomorrow.

[Good Guy]

You need to post a screenshot of the actual error message.  There must be something else that you haven't told us.

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[Good Guy]

On 24/02/2017 01:13, king daddy 2 wrote:

Yes, I always use the full email address.

I have run out of things to try,
Even different passwords
If I use SSL/TLs, the message I get

Web login required_:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 ; "web login required,"  so I do that song and dance.  Nothing changes.

Did you make sure that the settings is still shown to enable either pop or imap when you went to your gmail account?  See this picture:

[king daddy 2]

Thank you, yes.
Over and over I did 'sanity check'  because I am certain that it is the pop server being unkind to my intentions.

[king daddy 2]

After many recursive  attempts of dropping the TB account / create new,
IMAP and POP,

I am certain of important facts:

1) it is not a password problem
2) It is not a web login / captcha problem
3) it is a POP server rejection of my username / password credentials.
and my gmail Settings have both IMAP and POP enabled.

The google account name is not new, but it is the first time I have ever used GMail.
It's as if the server doesn't know about me.

Maybe after another overnight processing cycle... it will find out about me.

[king daddy 2]

New test scenario:
New Thunderbird Profile

Firefox, Log into my gmail account

Found...
Settings: 1. Status: Pop is enabled


Status: IMAP is disabled

TB: Add gmail Account
TB defaults used, and are correct for IMAP

TB "Get Messages"l
Succeeded in retrieving 12 messages.   ! (IMAP is disabled?)

Restart TB with profile that has gmail configured POP3
Same old result:



Conclusion?

Carl

[Christian Riechers]

On 02/23/2017 02:51 PM, king daddy 2 wrote:
> I have deleted TB account and tried again. Still same response to "Get Mail"
> One of several 'help web pages:
> (from 2011)
> http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2011/01/30/gmail-pop3-configuration/
> and
> https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
>
> Below is what I posted in google gmail forum
>
> My first gmail account.
> I do have Settings: Status: POP is enabled for all mail
> Password works with IMAP.
>
> Thunderbird... (45.7.1)
> Configuration could not be verified...
> So I went to Manual configuration (Been using TB for many years).
>
> Type in password again
>
> Sending of password for user (me)@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server

> pop.gmail.com responded: _Web login required_:

> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754
>
> So I go there and follow instructions.
> ...
> If the tips above didn't help, visit
> https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and follow the steps on the
> page.
>
> From here it gets to be a recursive loop, but account IS activated.. And I know
> the password is correct because IMAP works.
>
> I deleted the TB account, and tried again.
>
> Same result.
> I don't know what to look for. Help!

For POP you'll need to 'allow less secure apps' or alternatively turn on
2-step authentication and create and app password.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6009563?hl=en

[king daddy 2]

Thank you!
That works

I don't have a smartphone, and had not heard the term "less secure apps"


Carl

[king daddy 2]

On 2/24/2017 11:20 PM, king daddy 2 wrote:
> On 2/23/2017 8:51 AM, king daddy 2 wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have deleted TB account and tried again. Still same response to "Get Mail"
>> One of several 'help web pages:
>> (from 2011)
>> http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2011/01/30/gmail-pop3-configuration/
>> and
>> https://www.lifewire.com/what-are-the-gmail-smtp-settings-1170854
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is what I posted in google gmail forum
>>
>>
>> My first gmail account.
>> I do have Settings: Status: POP is enabled for all mail
>> Password works with IMAP.
>>
>> Thunderbird... (45.7.1)
>> Configuration could not be verified...
>> So I went to Manual configuration (Been using TB for many years).
>>
>> Type in password again
>>

>> Sending of password for user (me)@gmail.com did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: _Web login
>> required_: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754

>>
>> So I go there and follow instructions.
>> ...
>> If the tips above didn't help, visit https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and follow the steps on the
>> page.
>>
>> From here it gets to be a recursive loop, but account IS activated.. And I know the password is correct because IMAP
>> works.
>>
>> I deleted the TB account, and tried again.
>>
>> Same result.
>> I don't know what to look for. Help!
>>
>>
>> Carl
> New test scenario:
> New Thunderbird Profile
>
> Firefox, Log into my gmail account
>
> Found...
> Settings: 1. Status: Pop is enabled
>
>
> Status: IMAP is disabled
>
> TB: Add gmail Account
> TB defaults used, and are correct for IMAP
>
> TB "Get Messages"l
> Succeeded in retrieving 12 messages. ! (IMAP is disabled?)
>
> Restart TB with profile that has gmail configured POP3
> Same old result:
>
>
>

> Conclusion?
>
> Carl
>
>
>
! Huh?
-> Less Secure App?

I never heard that term before. I don't have a smartphone.

Respondent in this topic pointed me to the GMAIL setting...
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6009563?hl=en

and I was able to search / locate the YAHOO setting...
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN27791.html

Carl