YPOPs for Hotmail changed or dead?
Red Fox
Because my main computer was "down" for about 2 weeks, I had to use web
mail - yuk, yuk, yuk :-(
Now I am back on TBird again and, when I check Get Mail, Hotmail searches
for about 30 secs and stops - no message at all. I checked if there is an
update on the extension and there is none. The timeout on the connection is
set at 200 secs.
Server name: localhost, Port is 1050. Use secure authentication - Never.
I had no problem with Yahoo. - Port 995 and Use secure auth..... SSL
checked. Downloaded all without a hitch.
BTW, at this time I am not using the flaky AT&T DSL, just the old thoroughly
reliable 9-year old dialup 56k Zoom modem.
Help appreciated
RF
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
why are you using Ypops for hotmail? Ypops is for Yahoo,
hence the "Y" infront of the pops.
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Nir
> Hi Experts :-)
>
> Because my main computer was "down" for about 2 weeks, I had to use
> web mail - yuk, yuk, yuk :-(
>
> Now I am back on TBird again and, when I check Get Mail, Hotmail
> searches for about 30 secs and stops - no message at all. I checked
> if there is an update on the extension and there is none. The timeout
> on the connection is set at 200 secs.
( See Peter's reply first )
( As you said you checked for extension update ) Are you using Webmail
extension along with Hotmail extension to download mails from your
hotmail account ?
Red Fox
"Nir" <nir...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thank you Peter and Nir.
Oppss!., sorry guys, I thought all the extensions were Ypops. What I have is
WebMail Hotmail.
Now I have a new problem - it doesn't like my password, even though I have
not changed it for at least a year. I tried 6 times in succession. Then I
closed TBird and reopened. Tried three more times - no access!
I just logged into Hotmail via Firefox, so there seems to be something
strange going on. It didn't even offer to mail me the password when trying
from TBird..
Hmmmm....a new policy?
RF
Nir
Annailis
If you have it set on Hotmail Live, try setting it to Hotmail
(Old Website), or the other way around. May or may not solve the
problem.
Ann
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Red Fox
"Annailis" <Anna...@FISHnetscape.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Ann for the suggestion.
At the moment I am not on my main computer, where TBird is located.
Currently I am on a Pentium II - 1998 vintage and still running well but
slow, of course. The main box is a recent rebuild with a new Intel m'board.
Yesterday, while I was using it, an Intel message popped up about an
electric surge being in progress, so I shut it down right away. I am now
convinced that the previous ASUS m'board was zapped with a similar surge,
although I have a Tripp Lite surge protector. I am now looking for a better
protector and it will take some days before I get to test your suggestion.
Back soon.
RF
James
local power utility you might consider a constant voltage transformer.
The only mobo I have ever lost was when I was using one of the commonly
available standby power units with surge protection built-in. Triplite
is a good company but surge protectors are an iffy thing. CV Xfrmrs
have been around since Sola developed them in the 40's and have been
extremely reliable since. New they are a bit pricey but surplus you can
get them for a bargain. I have 400 & 600 watt units I located a number
of years ago for $25 each and recently obtained a 1,000 watt unit for
$75 & a 2,000 watt unit for $100. They are being wired into my house to
power all the outlets with electronics of any nature from TV's, VCR's,
computers, etc. Anything subject to power problems. Surges, spikes,
brownouts, missing half-waves, etc. You can read-up on them via the web
and decide for yourself but I designed some back in the 60's and have
been a fan ever since.
PS I also have a mercury wetted power relay set to hold with power and
drop out when the power fails requiring me to personally push a restart
button after the power has returned and is stable To often when it
comes back a great many spikes are created & it comes on and goes off
several times before becoming stable.
James
Red Fox
"James" <J...@9b01.com> wrote in message news:46CF2C4E...@9b01.com...
Thanks James for that great idea. I will certainly follow it up. Looks like
a great alternative.
RF
Red Fox
Hi James,
I'm back again with a question.
What kind of EM field would such a trafo have, if the rating is, say 600W?
At present I am renting and could not make the modifications I would
otherwise make. I would not want to have it near my computer, where I am
sitting. Maybe a long extension from the garden next door ;-) ?
TIA
RF
Ivan Ho
Red Fox
"Red Fox" <rf@c> wrote in message
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I tried to download a later version of WebMail than the one I had but, when
I tried to install, I always had a message - incompatible. So I still cannot
download the Hotmail mails.
I'm now thinking of upgrading from 1.5 to 2. Has anyone ever lost the
existing emails in the upgrade process?
TIA
RF
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Annailis
they're stored in the profile, not in the program folder) but
some people apparently have had problems getting a Thunderbird
upgrade to see existing e-mails in their profile.
Most problems can be solved by referring to the knowledge base
available at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Knowledge_Base. The
knowledge base is searchable. A good page to keep handy is
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird,
particularly for the items at the bottom of the page, eg. "empty
folders".
Another good page is
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keep_it_working_(Thunderbird) and I
highly recommend not installing Thunderbird, (or Firefox) in the
default location (but don't put them in the program folders, either).
Red Fox
"Annailis" <Anna...@FISHnetscape.net> wrote in message
Thank you Peter and Ann for the info.
I looked at Peter's suggestion - FreePops and the instructions are
unbelievable, even contradictory.
Next I upgraded TBird and, fortunately, I lost no emails in the upgrade to v
2.
Next, I tried to install WebMail, which I had used before. I have it
installed but Get Mail still does not work - may be a problem with the port
number, which I also cannot find. SMTP is setup ok and it works.
Onward we struggle ;-)
TF
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
I don't know what you mean by "the instructions are
unbelieveable, even contradictory". They are not that
unbelievable. As a matter of fact, they're easier than
webmail:
Server Name: localhost
Port: 2000
User Name: your full email address.
There, done. Simple.
Annailis
Hotmail 1.2.7 installed?
Under WebMail Options, Servers I have POP Port 110 enabled at
startup and SMTP Port 25 enabled at startup. For the
WebMail-Hotmail Extension I have my older hotmail account set
for Hotmail (Old Site) and the newer one for Hotmail Live (New
Site) since I set it up as a Hotmail Live account.
If you still have problems with the webmail (after checking to
make sure you've set the account's server settings to the way
you want it) extensions, you probably should ask at the forum at
http://webmail.mozdev.org/
Red Fox
"Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo" <peter.potamus.t...@gmail.com>
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Thanks for your patience Peter.
I tried your settings already. Next I tried the settings below - I use
Avast.
"5.3.2 Avast! AntiVirus
In your email client, change the username like this:
email@address#localhost:2000 Inside the email client options, set the POP3
server port number to 110, instead of what explained in the previous
tutorials."
I varied the Security Settings from Never to SSL and 'Never and Use Secure
Authentication'. I close and open TBird after every change. I always get the
same response: Could not connect to the server localhost; the connection was
refused.
Still at a deadend, but trying :-)
RF
Red Fox
"Annailis" <Anna...@FISHnetscape.net> wrote in message
Thanks again Ann.
Before I upgraded TBird to 2.0 I unfortunately had removed the WebMail for
Hotmail. In the upgrade the installer said that the Ypops I was using was
not now usable, so it looked for another add-on and found WebMail Yahoo
1.2.2.and installed it. It works fine. If I had left the WebMail Hotmail in
place it would probably have upgraded it too. I installed WebMail Hotmail
1.2.7. but I could not configure it. Nothing worked. All I get is: Could not
connect to the server localhost; the connection was refused.
According to Peter, FreePops is easy to work with. I've just given that
another try but no success yet.
Have a great day :-)
RF
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
there's your problem right there. Forgive me, but what does
advast have to do with anything? Forget what advast says.
Do as I mention, and it should work.
Red Fox
Thanks again Peter.
I was puzzled about Avast BUT, the guys who wrote that page know 1000 times
more about this prog than I do.
I set up your values, shut down, opened up and I still get the same old
message
Looks like a bad day for me.
RF
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> I set up your values, shut down, opened up and I still get the same old
> message
you do have freepops running in the background, right? And
you have given freepops access through your firewall, right?
Ron Hunter
obsolete instructions on setting up TB, had no trouble getting working.
Only a couple of changes were needed, and no security changes were
required. My only problem was a confusion about use of a global inbox,
easily cleared up.
Do you have the latest version.
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"Ron Hunter" <rphu...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Thank you Ron. I have no problem with the Yahoo mails. It's the Hotmail
extensions that I have the problems with.
RF
Ron Hunter
into the works. Maybe checking with the Ypops guys will help.
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> Likely Hotmail has made some minor change that threw a monkey wrench
> into the works. Maybe checking with the Ypops guys will help.
as I've said previously, ypops has nothing to do with
hotmail. Ypops is only for yahoo mail, hence the "y"
infront of pops.
Rinaldi J. Montessi
> Likely Hotmail has made some minor change that threw a monkey wrench
> into the works. Maybe checking with the Ypops guys will help.
That is exactly the case for anyone having trouble with Yahoo's POP
servers and second party retrieval systems. Fetchyahoo recently (28
Aug) altered their perl scripts to comply with the new requirements.
Not having read this whole thread that may already have been noted.
Rinaldi
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> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Likely Hotmail has made some minor change that threw a monkey wrench
>> into the works. Maybe checking with the Ypops guys will help.
>
> as I've said previously, ypops has nothing to do with hotmail. Ypops is
> only for yahoo mail, hence the "y" infront of pops.
>
shouldn't it be hotpops? ;)
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Ron Hunter
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Likely Hotmail has made some minor change that threw a monkey wrench
>> into the works. Maybe checking with the Ypops guys will help.
>
> as I've said previously, ypops has nothing to do with hotmail. Ypops is
> only for yahoo mail, hence the "y" infront of pops.
>
But the point is that ANY change to the webmail setup, logon, or even
format, may require changes to the associated software that attempts to
make it appear like a POP3 source, thus making your current setup
non-functional. Look for an update to your particular software.
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"Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rin...@Senior.Envision> wrote in message
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Thanks to all for your efforts.
Good News!
I tried Freepops (with Peter's settings) and got nowhere. Next I tried
Ypops - same story.
Finally, I tried WebMail and I have WebMail 1.2.4., Webmail HotMail 1.2.8
and WebMail Yahoo 1.2.3. -
all from http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html
There were a few minor settings to make and then everything worked first
time. HeeeeYawwwww :-)
Thanks again and have a super weekend.
RF
som...@sbcglobal.net
"Red Fox" <Red...@Den1.Con> wrote in message
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Wow, this stuff is the flakiest of the flaky.
After making the above post, I discovered that FreePops and Ypops were still
running. I uninstalled FreePops and found that Yahoo was still working but
Hotmail was not. I uninstalled the WebHotmail and closed TBird. I
reinstalled FreePops and reinstalled WebHotmail on TBird but Hotmail still
will NOT work.
I'm not even sure that Hotmail is worth all this hassle.
RF
RedFox
"Red Fox" <Red...@Den1.Con> wrote in message
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>
I am now running FreePops, YPops and Webmail + Yahoo + Hotmail ...... and
all my accounts are working.
What a mess though :-)
RF
Ron Hunter
those webmail sites, and you will loose that one until you update the
proper driver... Big pain, isn't it?
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RedFox
> Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Sure is a big pain. Worse still, I just closed and opened TBird and Hotmail
doesn't work any more.
Have a great week :-)
RF
Annailis
Check out the discussion on the webmail and related extensions at
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=558335 for
additional info on trying to get your hotmail, etc. accounts working.
Ron Hunter
Wait a week or so and see if a new version of the driver comes out.
It's an ongoing process.
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Wayne Mery
Any news on that point ^^ ?