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Kelvin

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Apr 4, 2011, 10:45:51 AM4/4/11
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I can't find the sending and receiving status progress bar in TB. Where
is it ?

Is TB 3.19 a stable and full-featured product ? It seems missing quite
some commonly used features. Think of migrating to Evolution.

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Kelvin

Tranas

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:02:20 AM4/4/11
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On 2011.04.04 07:45, Kelvin wrote:
> Is TB 3.19 a stable and full-featured product

No.

No legitimate Help
No legitimate Archive
Unpredictable and often unrecoverable loss of mail.
other Major unresolved bugs.
Not suitable for a production environment, imho.

great potential, poor execution.

The groupies will tell you everything is cool, does not happen to them.

ymmv

Mike Easter

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:07:04 AM4/4/11
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Kelvin wrote:
> I can't find the sending and receiving status progress bar in TB.
> Where is it ?

On the R end of the status bar just left of the unread/total notifications.

Your XP Tb 3.1.9 View menu/ check status bar item

That bar resides at the bottom of the window. It has a on/offline icon
on the far left. With something like an inbox selected, the Unread and
Total notification is on the far right.

During the transaction process, just the the right of the on/offline is
such as connecting, downloading language; while on the R just to the
left of the Unread info is the graphic with the activity bars moving.

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Mike Easter

WLS

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:08:06 AM4/4/11
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Sending progress is in a pop-up dialog when sending the message. Kinda
hard to miss.

Receiving is in the lower left corner of the status bar, and can be
configured in preferences to show an alert or play a sound when new
messages arrive.

At least that's the way it works in my Thunderbird.

HTH

WLS

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Jay Garcia

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:16:30 AM4/4/11
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On 04.04.2011 10:02, Tranas wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> On 2011.04.04 07:45, Kelvin wrote:
>> Is TB 3.19 a stable and full-featured product
>
> No.
>
> No legitimate Help

Not so, anything more specific to support that claim?

> No legitimate Archive

Explain

> Unpredictable and often unrecoverable loss of mail.

That happened to me but I found the problem and corrected it. It turned
out to be a corrupt IMAP implementation on my server.

> other Major unresolved bugs.

Please list with bug links

> Not suitable for a production environment, imho.

Opinion noted

> great potential, poor execution.

Opinion noted, unless of course you can post more specifics

> The groupies will tell you everything is cool, does not happen to them.

If it works for those that post it works then it works, no?

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Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird
Disclaimer: I Do Not Own This Place Thus I Have No Official Say-So!!

Jay Garcia

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:22:28 AM4/4/11
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On 04.04.2011 09:45, Kelvin wrote:

--- Original Message ---

TOOLS => Options => Advanced => Config Editor (button). In the resulting
filter window, type or copy/paste mailnews.show_send_progress

If it shows a value of "false" then double-click the line to change to
"true".

Kelvin

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:29:28 AM4/4/11
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From the status bar

1.) I can't see the total size (KB or MB) of messages to be downloaded

2.) I can't stop the downloading process.

Kelvin

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:42:15 AM4/4/11
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Yeah, I found TB not user-friendly though being flexible. Before you can
reply email, you must get a few extensions first namely
QuoteAndComposeManager, SmartTemplate, ChangeQuoteAndReplyFormat and etc
for fixing here and there, otherwise no proper reply quote headers and
what's worse, it distorted the styles in quote message.

Overall, TB is OK, but not advised for non-tech savvy as they'll go mad.
Using TB is just like configuring Joomla/Drupal CMS, require some
touch-ups with extensions.

Currently, having issues in configuring SmartTemplate, how to place the
Quote Message at the desired position.

Jay Garcia

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:51:45 AM4/4/11
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On 04.04.2011 10:29, Kelvin wrote:

--- Original Message ---

TOOLS => Account Settings => Your Mail Account => Server Settings =>
Tick the box "Fetch headers only"

That may do what you want by allowing you to download only those
messages you want.

Jay Garcia

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:54:00 AM4/4/11
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On 04.04.2011 10:42, Kelvin wrote:

--- Original Message ---

The application is purposely devoid of a lot of bloat that the more
savvy users do not want. Addons are provided for those that need and/or
want more automatic functionality suitable to more specific needs.

Kelvin

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Apr 5, 2011, 1:45:52 AM4/5/11
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Jay Garcia wrote:

>> From the status bar
>>
>> 1.) I can't see the total size (KB or MB) of messages to be downloaded
>>
>> 2.) I can't stop the downloading process.
>
> TOOLS => Account Settings => Your Mail Account => Server Settings =>
> Tick the box "Fetch headers only"
>
> That may do what you want by allowing you to download only those
> messages you want.
>

it seems troublesome, why not show the progress bar letting the users
know of the total size of messages to be downloaded ?

Mike Easter

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Apr 5, 2011, 7:51:26 AM4/5/11
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Kelvin wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Kelvin wrote:
>>> I can't find the sending and receiving status progress bar in TB.
>>> Where is it ?

>> During the transaction process, just the the right of the on/offline is


>> such as connecting, downloading language; while on the R just to the
>> left of the Unread info is the graphic with the activity bars moving.
>>
> From the status bar
>
> 1.) I can't see the total size (KB or MB) of messages to be downloaded

Prior to downloading a news message, the information which has been
obtained from the overview is the number of lines, not the message size
in bytes.

Prior to popping mail, the agent sends a STAT command and the server
replies with the number of messages and some indication of total size or
lines or octets or something. Then the agent sends a LIST command and
the server gives a series of numbers such as 1-5 along with a size
accompanying each number. Then the client sends a RETR 1 message and the
server says OK and the number of bytes/octets and sends. That process
goes on for RETR 2-5. Then the client sends a DELE 1 command and the
server says ok and so forth for DELE 2-5.

> 2.) I can't stop the downloading process.

If you want to fine tune the process so that you can pick and choose
your pops to download based on size, you need another tool.


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Mike Easter

Jay Garcia

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Apr 5, 2011, 10:31:20 AM4/5/11
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On 05.04.2011 00:45, Kelvin wrote:

--- Original Message ---

You wanted to see the message size prior to downloading, yes? That's the
purpose of "fetch headers only", you get to see the subject and the size.

Same reasoning to stop the download, you don't start it to begin with.

One other, less feasible function would be to set the message download
maximum size to a very low figure. That would allow all incoming
messages to display the "Truncated" message box to appear and IF you
want to continue to download the message then you can click it.

Jim

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Apr 7, 2011, 1:31:53 PM4/7/11
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