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tb

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Dec 28, 2012, 11:06:19 PM12/28/12
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I am using Thunderbird 17.0 on a desktop running Linux Mint Debian
Edition v. 201204.

I would like to switch to a different Usenet newsgroup server but _I do
not want to go through the process of resubscribing to all the
newsgroups that I read_! (PS: I know for a fact that the new Usenet
newsgroup server carries all the groups that I currently subscribe to.)

Can it be done? Is it just a matter of going into the settings of the
current server and inserting the new one in the Server Name box?
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David E. Ross

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Dec 29, 2012, 12:39:07 AM12/29/12
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There is a problem with what you propose. Thunderbird (and other news
reader applications) keeps track of which newsgroup messages you have
read. This is used, for example, when you have set [View > Threads >
Threads with Unread]. This is done by recording the message number from
the server. Each server has its own numbering scheme, different from
the numbering schemes on other servers. If you do as you propose,
messages that you have already read might appear as unread; and messages
you have never read might appear as already read.

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Mike Easter

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Dec 29, 2012, 11:57:29 AM12/29/12
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You should resub to all of the groups and you should also decide how you
want to handle the downloading and/or display of the messages (and/or
threads) previously read on the old server.

Alternatively you could simply 'add' (as opposed to 'switching' to) the
new news server and then 'transition' from reading this or that group
from the old server and/while reading that or the other group from the
new server based on the activity levels of the various groups and the
ease or difficulty in maintaining 'continuity' of the threads you follow.

There are good reasons to have 'alternate' news servers as opposed to
just one. Alternate servers help to troubleshoot problems because it
enables to you more quickly determine whether an observed problem
resides at the server end or not.

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Keith Nuttle

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Dec 29, 2012, 3:34:46 PM12/29/12
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What I have done is leave the old sever account on the computer until
the new sever account is fully functional. In the old account I
download the latest newsgroup message. I then go to the new server,
subscribe to my newsgroups, and download all the messages from that
server. I compare and read the recent messages on both servers. I then
delete the old server account, and mark all of the newsgroups read in
the new account and continue from there as if the old account never existed.

If in a hurry I just delete the old account, establish the new account
with my newsgroup, and let it down load the 50 most recent messages in
each group. Read them, mark them read, and continue if nothing had changed.

Jari Fredriksson

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Dec 30, 2012, 4:02:39 AM12/30/12
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29.12.2012 22:34, Keith Nuttle kirjoitti:
>> There are good reasons to have 'alternate' news servers as opposed to
>> just one. Alternate servers help to troubleshoot problems because it
>> enables to you more quickly determine whether an observed problem
>> resides at the server end or not.
>>
> What I have done is leave the old sever account on the computer until
> the new sever account is fully functional. In the old account I
> download the latest newsgroup message. I then go to the new server,
> subscribe to my newsgroups, and download all the messages from that
> server. I compare and read the recent messages on both servers. I
> then delete the old server account, and mark all of the newsgroups
> read in the new account and continue from there as if the old account
> never existed.
>
> If in a hurry I just delete the old account, establish the new account
> with my newsgroup, and let it down load the 50 most recent messages in
> each group. Read them, mark them read, and continue if nothing had
> changed.

What I use, is a local leafnode. It is a light weight personal usenet
server, and I use only that in my Thunderbird. I want to change my
Usenet provider, I do it in my Leafnode config. It uses the new server,
but Thunderbird does not see anything changing.

Leafnode also acts as a 'hub', it can connect to multiple servers
(gmane, others non standard), and they will look all as one and only: my
leafnode.

Leafnode is a proxy for usenet, and works great. It is also possible to
scan incoming messages for spam and virii, and deleted them before
Thunderbird sees them.

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