display image attachments inline while body as text?

[Mathias Korber]

I usually have
Display Message Body as: Plain text
and
Display Attachments Inline: Yes

still, image attachments are not shown inline
(understandably) but are indicated below

but they are not shown below.

is there a way to show image attachments
below the plain text email as images?

Ideal would be a way to decide which types
of attachments to show and which not (movies)
and possibly also have size /filesize limits

[Good Guy]

Plain text can't display images.  You have to read and write in HTML.  Images are binaries and plain text get confused with them!!!

To view images, go to:

View >> Message body as >> Original HTML

See this picture:

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[Poutnik]

Dne 08/08/2016 v 02:54 Good Guy napsal(a):

>>
>
> Plain text can't display images. You have to read and write in HTML.
> Images are binaries and plain text get confused with them!!!
>

Inline images are stored as text, as well as attached images,
using several versions of binary to text encoding,
(like UUENCODE or BASE64, typically 3 bytes to 4 ASCII)
and described in the email MIME section.

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[Wolf K.]

You can specify which programs to use to display different types of content:

Tools -> Options -> Attachments -> Incoming

Just how TB displays attachments without these programs depends on the
sender and how they have configured their software. There's nothing you
can do about that. The features you've checked should read "...if possible".

Have a good day,

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[Mathias Korber]

On 8/8/16 8:54, Good Guy wrote:
> On 08/08/2016 00:58, Mathias Korber wrote:
>> I usually have
>> Display Message Body as: Plain text
>> and
>> Display Attachments Inline: Yes
>>
>> still, image attachments are not shown inline
>> (understandably) but are indicated below
>>
>> but they are not shown below.
>>
>> is there a way to show image attachments
>> below the plain text email as images?
>>
>> Ideal would be a way to decide which types
>> of attachments to show and which not (movies)
>> and possibly also have size /filesize limits
>>
>
> Plain text can't display images. You have to read and write in HTML.
> Images are binaries and plain text get confused with them!!!

Sure, but I don't want then inline but shown *below* the plaintext
message...but displayed automatically if they fulfil the
requirements

(also nice would be a way to register known hashes of the image files,
so that files which appear over and over again (like company logos)
can be ignored and only useful ones shown)

[Wolf K.]

On 2016-08-10 04:44, Mathias Korber wrote:
> On 8/8/16 8:54, Good Guy wrote:

[...]

>> Plain text can't display images. You have to read and write in HTML.
>> Images are binaries and plain text get confused with them!!!
>
> Sure, but I don't want then inline but shown *below* the plaintext
> message...but displayed automatically if they fulfil the
> requirements
>
> (also nice would be a way to register known hashes of the image files,
> so that files which appear over and over again (like company logos)
> can be ignored and only useful ones shown)

Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

[Wolf K.]

s/b "attached images"

[Mathias Korber]

> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..

> Have a good day,
>

[WaltS48]

So what email client did your correspondents use to send the messages?

If sent from Thunderbird or SeaMonkey to Thunderbird they should show in
the message, if you have "Show Attachments Inline" checked under the
Menu Bar/Button > View.

I can't comment on other email clients your correspondents might use.

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[Mathias Korber]

> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..

I get mails from different clients, but as long as TB can list them
below the email (> n Attachments), it should be able to try and
decipher them and just display them below the plain text?

> Have a good day,
>

[Mathias Korber]

> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

[Good Guy]

On 16/08/2016 05:07, Mathias Korber wrote:

Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..

That is how plain text is supposed to work..

I get mails from different clients, but as long as TB can list them
below the email (>  n Attachments),  it should be able to try and
decipher them and just display them below the plain text?

Why?  Can you see images in plain text editors such as Notepad?  No you don't.  Plain text can't display images because images are binaries while plain text files are simple ascii files.

[Mathias Korber]

On 16/8/16 14:17, Good Guy wrote:
> On 16/08/2016 05:07, Mathias Korber wrote:
>>> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
>>> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
>>> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.
>> Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
>> and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
>> attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
>> show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..
> That is how plain text is supposed to work..


>> I get mails from different clients, but as long as TB can list them
>> below the email (> n Attachments), it should be able to try and
>> decipher them and just display them below the plain text?
> Why? Can you see images in plain text editors such as Notepad? No you
> don't. Plain text can't display images because images are binaries
> while plain text files are simple ascii files.

Why not? TB is a GUI interface so perfectly capable of displayin images.
Just because I like to see emails in plain text (in a fixed-width font)
does not mean I should have to open images separately if TB could just
display them in a widget below the email body...

So, once again slowly:

I want TB to display the mail body as plain text,
and below it display what attachments it can in text (if they are
up to a certain size) or images (up to a certain size, possibly scaled)

so i can quickly see what is attached w/o having to click each and every
one.

EVen better: if it could checksum each attachment and ignore it if it is
on a list of known ones (same size, hash, even of different name). So as
to avoid seeing the same ole company logo on every email

[Mathias Korber]

> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.

Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..

I get mails from different clients, but as long as TB can list them
below the email (> n Attachments), it should be able to try and
decipher them and just display them below the plain text?

> Have a good day,
>

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, at 10:24:24 +1000,
*-* In Article
<mailman.1864.1471307098....@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* Mathias Korber wrote
*-* About Re: display image attachments inline while body as text?

What do you see if you (temporarily) switch your View --> Message
Body As setting to Original HTML? I suspect what you have are HTML
messages containing embedded images, not attached images. In my
experience, when viewing HTML messages containing embedded images as
plain text Thunderbird will list the images as if they were
attachments, but it won't display them, exactly as you're describing.

Ken Whiton
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[Chris Ramsden]

On 2016-08-16 06:16, Mathias Korber wrote:
>> Plain text can have attached messages, and if you have a _competent_
>> email client, it will display those below the text. However, if the
>> message is sent form an incompetent client, all bets are off.
>

> Is Thunderbird a 'competent' client? (I asked specifically here)
> and how to make it do that? Right now it shows the presence of
> attachments when I display emails as plain text, but it does not
> show the pics below the text automatically. I have to click them..
>

> I get mails from different clients, but as long as TB can list them
> below the email (> n Attachments), it should be able to try and
> decipher them and just display them below the plain text?
>
>> Have a good day,
>>
>

If I send a plaintext message, with an image file attached, from one
account to another, using Thunderbird, in the incoming message I see the
image below the message text. So despite all the cr@p from other posters
telling us this isn't possible, it is, and on this basis I'd say that
Thunderird _is_ a competent email client.

You can repeat this experiment for yourself. If it doesn't work for you
then you need to review your settings. The main one is, as said before,
View|Display Attachments Inline. I was under the impression that
Thunderbird has native ability to display common graphics formats, (bmp,
png, jpg, gif) but other add-ons, say for automatic resizing, may
impinge on this. Some formats, tiff and pdf, for instance, don't display
in Thunderbird. I was pleasantly surprised to find that svg does.

Now, is there any clue in what other email clients your correspondents
might be using, or image formats being employed, that somehow stops this
working when you receive and view their messages in Thunderbird?

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[WaltS48]

On 08/16/2016 12:54 AM, Mathias Korber wrote:
> So, once again slowly:
>
> I want TB to display the mail body as plain text,
> and below it display what attachments it can in text (if they are
> up to a certain size) or images (up to a certain size, possibly scaled)
>
> so i can quickly see what is attached w/o having to click each and every
> one.

So, once again slowly:

Do you have View > Message Body As > Plain Text
selected and Display Attachments Inline checked?

Have you tried safe mode? Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled.

Tried a new profile? You could create a news.mozilla.org account,
subscribe to mozilla.test, download some messages and view the last one
posted by Good Guy at 9:35 PM on 08/15/16.

It displays the image just fine in plain text view here.

Never did answer what clients your correspondents were using to send
their messages that you can't see their attached images.

[Wolf K.]

If the images are true attachments, you will see them displayed below
the body (See WaltS48's post on how to adjust the settings).

However, there is no guarantee that what the email sent to you contains
attached images. They could be embedded in HTML, in which case you may
see them twice, within the body and below the body. Or just once, within
the body or below. I've seen all three cases.

FWIW, I've set

Menu Bar - View - Message Body As - Original HTML

and some messages display as plain text. Why? Because they're sent that
way. I just experimented with a mail that includes 4 images. In Original
HTML, Simple HTML, and Plain Text views I see 3 different fonts, but in
all 3 cases, the images are displayed below the message body. So the
sender's client attached them.

So if this doesn't work for some of your incoming mail, I'd say the
sender's client is dong something weird. Hence my reference to a
_competent_ client. I'll amend and clarify that: a client that conforms
to the standards.

[Wolf K.]

On 2016-08-16 01:16, Mathias Korber wrote:

[etc]

You've set your newsreader to send a copy of your replies to the poster.
Don't do that.