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Gord McFee

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Jul 12, 2007, 9:28:04 PM7/12/07
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I am slightly afraid the answer to this is obvious, but I can't find it.
How does one display Cyrillic characters in Thunderbird? No matter
what I set character encoding to, it doesn't work.

Thanks for any help.

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Best regards
Gord McFee

Tony Mechelynck

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Jul 13, 2007, 3:34:11 AM7/13/07
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Gord McFee wrote:
> I am slightly afraid the answer to this is obvious, but I can't find it.
> How does one display Cyrillic characters in Thunderbird? No matter
> what I set character encoding to, it doesn't work.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>

1. Make sure you have at least one font with Cyrillic glyphs installed on your
computer. ("Courier New", if installed, is often a good guess.)

2. Tools => Options => Display => Fonts & Encodings => Fonts...

Fonts for [Cyrillic |v]

Set up proper fonts (with Cyrillic glyphs; see step 1) for default, serif,
sans-serif, monospace etc.

UNtick "Apply the default encoding to all incoming messages".

3. Any Cyrillic email with a proper "Content-Type" header, e.g.

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r

etc., should now be displayed correctly.

Here is an example: the following two non-blank lines are in Russian.

Всего хорошего,
Тоня.
--
"Life is like a bowl of soup with hairs floating on it. You have to
eat it nevertheless."
-- Flaubert

Gord McFee

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Jul 13, 2007, 11:07:33 AM7/13/07
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On 7/13/2007 3:34 AM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> Gord McFee wrote:
>> I am slightly afraid the answer to this is obvious, but I can't find it.
>> How does one display Cyrillic characters in Thunderbird? No matter
>> what I set character encoding to, it doesn't work.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>
> 1. Make sure you have at least one font with Cyrillic glyphs installed on your
> computer. ("Courier New", if installed, is often a good guess.)
>
> 2. Tools => Options => Display => Fonts & Encodings => Fonts...
>
> Fonts for [Cyrillic |v]
>
> Set up proper fonts (with Cyrillic glyphs; see step 1) for default, serif,
> sans-serif, monospace etc.
>
> UNtick "Apply the default encoding to all incoming messages".
>
> 3. Any Cyrillic email with a proper "Content-Type" header, e.g.
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r
>
> etc., should now be displayed correctly.
>
> Here is an example: the following two non-blank lines are in Russian.
>
> Всего хорошего,
> Тоня.

Many thanks, that did it.

pau...@compuserve.com

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Jul 21, 2007, 1:22:14 PM7/21/07
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Hello!

Yes, it someone sends correctly prepared Cyrillic message, you'd see
it.
Though, Tony did not mention how _you_ should prepare such message, so
if you are still in need for that please see my page
"Cyrillic(Russian) in Thunderbird/Firefox/Mozilla":
http://RusWin.net/cyr_moz.htm

--
Regards,
Paul
http://Kbd.RusWin.net

Gord McFee

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Jul 22, 2007, 1:53:39 PM7/22/07
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On 7/21/2007 1:22 PM, pau...@compuserve.com wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Yes, it someone sends correctly prepared Cyrillic message, you'd see
> it. Though, Tony did not mention how _you_ should prepare such
> message, so if you are still in need for that please see my page
> "Cyrillic(Russian) in Thunderbird/Firefox/Mozilla":
> http://RusWin.net/cyr_moz.htm

Most interesting. Thanks. Is there a way to display Cyrillic on a
message-by-message basis?

Robert M Jones

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Jul 22, 2007, 5:59:08 PM7/22/07
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да!
I typed this with my Bulgarian keyboard setting then changed "view" -
"character encoding" - utf-8 and that seemed to work. Фкш But I'm not an
expert!
Довиждане!

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http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk
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Tony Mechelynck

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Jul 22, 2007, 11:04:33 PM7/22/07
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Robert M Jones wrote:
> Gord McFee wrote:
>> On 7/21/2007 1:22 PM, pau...@compuserve.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Yes, it someone sends correctly prepared Cyrillic message, you'd see
>>> it. Though, Tony did not mention how _you_ should prepare such
>>> message, so if you are still in need for that please see my page
>>> "Cyrillic(Russian) in Thunderbird/Firefox/Mozilla":
>>> http://RusWin.net/cyr_moz.htm
>>
>> Most interesting. Thanks. Is there a way to display Cyrillic on a
>> message-by-message basis?
>>
>
> да!
> I typed this with my Bulgarian keyboard setting then changed "view" -
> "character encoding" - utf-8 and that seemed to work. Фкш But I'm not an
> expert!
> Довиждане!
>

Messages with correct headers should now be displayed correctly, as you (Gord)
can (hopefully) see. _Composing_ messages in Cyrillic may be harder. Here are
a few possibilities:

- Changing your keyboard by means of an OS "International Keyboard"
application or similar

- Clipboard pasting from an application (such as gvim) which has facilities
for international editing

- The abcTajpu extension.


Best regards,
Tony.
--
Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them.

Gord McFee

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Jul 23, 2007, 8:08:08 PM7/23/07
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Yes, it displays correctly. Thanks to you both. I now believe the
message that wouldn't display correctly earlier had the wrong headers.
Thanks for your patience.

pau...@compuserve.com

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Jul 25, 2007, 12:45:20 AM7/25/07
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On Jul 22, 8:04 pm, Tony Mechelynck <antoine.mechely...@belgacom.net>
wrote:
> ...

> _Composing_ messages in Cyrillic may be harder. Here are
> a few possibilities:
>
> - Changing your keyboard by means of an OS "International Keyboard"
> application or similar
>
> - Clipboard pasting from an application (such as gvim) which has facilities
> for international editing
>
> - The abcTajpu extension.


It's really only 1st option that people use OR even they need Cyrillic
very seldom, they use Virtual Keyboard. That is:

- either a person enables system keyboard say for Russian - "RU" on
taskbar will work same way as French (when "FR") or English (when it's
"EN").
Layout can be Standard one or Phonetic/homophonic (E-E,A-A,T-T,...).
the instruction is at http://RusWin.net/kbd.htm


OR

- they just use Virtual Cyrillic Keyboard - 100% simulates system
input - same layouts, Standard and Phonetic, same way of typing - via
regular keyboard (though mouse-based input works too):
http://Kbd.RusWin.net


Also that Cyrillic typing in Thunderbird has to happen in a message
preparation window where Cyrillic encoding is a present one - as
explained on that page at http://RusWin.net/cyr_moz.htm
Otherwise a person sees normal Cyrillic while typing but whoever
receives such e-mail will see just question marks...

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Regards,
Paul Gorodyansky
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://RusWin.net

P D Sterling

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Aug 1, 2007, 7:17:10 PM8/1/07
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Thanks for this posting; I'm really frustrated that so much of computing
is Anglo-centric and so unfriendly to diacriticals. Sheesh.

Regards,

P D Sterling
Dallas TX

Tony Mechelynck

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Aug 2, 2007, 12:19:58 AM8/2/07
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P D Sterling wrote:
> Thanks for this posting; I'm really frustrated that so much of computing
> is Anglo-centric and so unfriendly to diacriticals. Sheesh.
>
> Regards,
>
> P D Sterling
> Dallas TX

Yeah, you bet the result would have been different if Bill Gator and Steve
NoJobs had been from Berlin and Montreal instead of both from the US West
Coast. At least Linus Torvalds is a Swedish-speaking Finnish national, and
SuSE was created in Germany before it was finally bought by Novell.


Best regards,
Tony.
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OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything.

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