Increase/decrease quote levels?

[lackhead]

I'm looking for a way to increase/decrease quote levels in a message I
am replying to (I have a friend who will always respond to my messages
without quoting my own, which *really* makes it hard to read).

Mail.app on MacOS has a feature where you just select the text and then
can increase/decrease the quote level arbitrarily- this is exactly what
I am looking for. I don't see any place in the menu system or any
available extension that will provide this. Am I missing something
here, or should I become familiar with how to write an extension for
Thunderbird?

Thanks,

-c

[Nir]

a probable solution:
while replying , select that portion you want to increase quote level, cut that portion,
leaving cursor un-moved , right click and select 'paste as quotation'

[lackhead]

Nir wrote:
>
> a probable solution:
> while replying , select that portion you want to increase quote level, cut that portion,
> leaving cursor un-moved , right click and select 'paste as quotation'
>

That's what I've been doing to increase for now (I've also just added
in >'s when using the plain-text editor). But while I was using
Mail.app I often used the decrease functionality as well- having
control over that was a simple but much appreciated feature for picky
people like me. ;)

This all comes about with a frustration with the format=flowed option
to the Content-Type header. Well, no, I take that back. My frustration
is that in the plain-text editor, if you reply to a message that has a
1000-character line it in, you will get one quoted line and a scroll
bar (as the line goes way off screen to the right). This is indeed the
way the message exists in plain text, but in the viewer pane
Thunderbird will correctly wrap lines in plain-text messages (according
to format=flowed RFC). However, if you want to perouse the line you are
replying to, you either have to pop back and forth between the main
window and the compose window, or scroll back and forth- a pain. Then
again, I don't want to compose in the HTML editor, which will wrap text
properly.

So, I think there might be a few solutions to my frustration, but I
have to admit I'm kinda shocked that the increase/decrease quote level
hasn't been implemented yet.

Thanks,

-c

[C A Upsdell]

lackhead wrote:
> So, I think there might be a few solutions to my frustration, but I
> have to admit I'm kinda shocked that the increase/decrease quote level
> hasn't been implemented yet.

This is one of many reasons I am still using Eudora. I want to use TB,
but in too many respects it just doesn't meet my needs.

[Nir]

but it seems to me that you are using TB , at least posting in this
newsgroup. ;-)

[C A Upsdell]

Yes. TB is an adequate newsreader ... for my needs. It has some faults
that trouble me -- mainly its damnable inability to remember viewing
preferences (why can't it remember that I want the preferences obtained
by Alt-VETVSS?, when OE has not problem at all remembering preferences)
-- but not enough to make me go back to OE.

[Nir]

sorry but don't know what you meant by 'Alt-VETVSS'

[C A Upsdell]

Hold down the Alt key and press V E T V S S

This tells TB to display threads with unread messages, sorted by
subject. Which I have to do every damn time I run TB and select a
newsgroup, because TB can't seem to remember what I had set the last
time I ran it.

[lackhead]

lackhead wrote:
>
> This all comes about with a frustration with the format=flowed option
> to the Content-Type header. Well, no, I take that back. My frustration
> is that in the plain-text editor, if you reply to a message that has a
> 1000-character line it in, you will get one quoted line and a scroll
> bar (as the line goes way off screen to the right). This is indeed the
> way the message exists in plain text, but in the viewer pane
> Thunderbird will correctly wrap lines in plain-text messages (according
> to format=flowed RFC). However, if you want to perouse the line you are
> replying to, you either have to pop back and forth between the main
> window and the compose window, or scroll back and forth- a pain. Then
> again, I don't want to compose in the HTML editor, which will wrap text
> properly.
>

I dug deeper into bugzilla and found a nice little religious war about
this particular topic. After reading all of this, I guess I do agree
that when using the plain-text editor, lines that are 1000 characters
should be displayed that way. At least, I'll admit that it seems very
unlikely to change. <sigh>

However, what I did request was what I truly think is a bug: if you
highlight text and select "rewrap" from the edit menu, it will wrap the
text accordingly. However, if that text is part of a quote, the quote
will only be kept for the first line.

For example, if you have this as a single line:

"> this is one long line that I am putting in quotes just in case this
editor I am using decides to wrap text for me, which I think is the
case. Note the > at the beginning signifying a quote."

select it, and choose "rewrap" from the edit menu, you will get
something like this, in which the one line was broken into three:

> this is one long line that I am putting in quotes just in case this editor
I am using decides to wrap text for me, which I think is the case. Note

the > at the beginning, signifying a quote.

I think the editor should be smart enough to recognize a line as a
quote (it has to be to display it correctly) and if rewrapping, treat
anything wrapped as an extension of that quote and put ">"'s in front
of it accordingly.

FYI. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they actually try to fix this,
as it is most annoying. I still think having increase/decrease quote
level functions would be very nice. ;)

-c

[Nir]

everything works fine here. Try it through 'View' menu. still getting problem?

[Mumia W.]

On 08/07/2006 04:53 PM, lackhead wrote:
>
> I dug deeper into bugzilla and found a nice little religious war about
> this particular topic. After reading all of this, I guess I do agree
> that when using the plain-text editor, lines that are 1000 characters
> should be displayed that way. At least, I'll admit that it seems very
> unlikely to change. <sigh>
>
> However, what I did request was what I truly think is a
> bug: if you highlight text and select "rewrap" from the
> edit menu, it will wrap the text accordingly. However, if
> that text is part of a quote, the quote will only be kept

> for the first line. [...]
>

It seems to work in Seamonkey.

But in TB it screws it up badly; the first time you rewrap, it
messes up the text, interspersing "> " characters all over, so
you have to edit it so that the "> " characters are at the
beginnings of the lines and rewrap again.

Seamonkey is better.

[Lou]

If you use the drop down View and then choose what you want it does not
remember? Works for me.

Lou

[C A Upsdell]

>> Hold down the Alt key and press V E T V S S
>>
>> This tells TB to display threads with unread messages, sorted by
>> subject. Which I have to do every damn time I run TB and select a
>> newsgroup, because TB can't seem to remember what I had set the last
>> time I ran it.
>>
> If you use the drop down View and then choose what you want it does not
> remember? Works for me.

I doesn't work, and never has.

[Nir]

you may try this trick :

Goto your profile folder (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile)

*Back up your profile folder*.

rename these file by adding '.backup' at the end of file name extension
1.panacea.dat ( to panacea.dat.backup )
2.XUL.mfl ( to XUL.mfl.backup )
3.localstore.rdf ( to localstore.rdf.backup )

and delete all those files having '.msf' extension ( from that account folder within Mail
folder )

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