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Restorm
Aug 11, 2012, 8:59:55 AM8/11/12
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Recently, my Drafts folder has started creating three copies of every
email I save. In fact, it even (occasionally) creates copies of emails I
send without first saving. Anyone else seeing this. Anyone know how to
stop it?
email I save. In fact, it even (occasionally) creates copies of emails I
send without first saving. Anyone else seeing this. Anyone know how to
stop it?
Wayne
Aug 11, 2012, 11:42:00 AM8/11/12
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workarounds whihc might work:
- increase the autosave interval, say to 3-5 minutes (many people have
it at 1)
- set drafts to local folders
Restorm
Aug 11, 2012, 2:10:29 PM8/11/12
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richard.ep...@gmail.com
Nov 30, 2012, 9:21:01 AM11/30/12
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My Thunderbird often behaves much worse than that. Autosave saves a draft every few minutes (even if the message being composed hasn't changed) so that hundreds of versions of the message being composed accumulate in the Drafts folder (which is in my Local Folders). Assuming the Size column is reliable, it even saves copies of attachments.
This wouldn't be a problem if Thunderbird were smart enough to delete all autosaved drafts when the message is sent or discarded (or provide an option to do that or an option that automatically color-highlights according to whether the corresponding message was sent, discarded, etc.). I shouldn't have to manually delete autosaved drafts, and especially not thousands of them. (My Drafts folder contained about 3000 this morning.)
I've had the autosave interval set to 3 minutes. I'm going to change it to 10 minutes, with the expectation that this will reduce the problem by 70%.
This wouldn't be a problem if Thunderbird were smart enough to delete all autosaved drafts when the message is sent or discarded (or provide an option to do that or an option that automatically color-highlights according to whether the corresponding message was sent, discarded, etc.). I shouldn't have to manually delete autosaved drafts, and especially not thousands of them. (My Drafts folder contained about 3000 this morning.)
I've had the autosave interval set to 3 minutes. I'm going to change it to 10 minutes, with the expectation that this will reduce the problem by 70%.
Ron Hunter
Nov 30, 2012, 4:09:33 PM11/30/12
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have never used it here. Not sure why it is even needed.
Restorm
Nov 30, 2012, 7:08:06 PM11/30/12
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The Real Bev
Nov 30, 2012, 8:00:52 PM11/30/12
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eternal-september) the whole message disappears. No draft, not in the
/tmp directory where stuff gets saved automatically SOMETIMES, nowhere.
I need to remember save stuff as a draft before I try to post.
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women join the unqualified men in running our government"
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Retrust
Dec 1, 2012, 4:29:55 PM12/1/12
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> You can, of course, reduce it to zero by turning off the autosave. I
> have never used it here. Not sure why it is even needed.
It serves two purposes: protection against crashes, and the ability to recall previous versions of a draft if you change your mind about something you deleted.
> have never used it here. Not sure why it is even needed.
I see now that my Autosave is unreliable in a second way. As a test, I started composing a new message that I haven't yet sent (nor saved nor cancelled). It autosaved a few minutes after I created it, good. Later I modified the message by adding a sentence, but the modified version hasn't autosaved even though hours have elapsed.
I don't see what's so complicated about autosaving, or what could be so different about my configuration, that autosaving can't be done without such obvious bugs.
Retrust
Dec 1, 2012, 4:54:05 PM12/1/12
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Bev wrote:
> If I get an nntp error when I post something (mostly to
> eternal-september) the whole message disappears. No draft, not in the
> /tmp directory where stuff gets saved automatically SOMETIMES, nowhere.
> I need to remember save stuff as a draft before I try to post.
Bev, can you clarify some details: Are you saying draft copies are sometimes automatically saved in the /tmp directory? Do you have a Drafts folder? Do you have Thunderbird configured so that Autosave is turned on, and is Autosave configured to save to the /tmp directory instead of a Drafts folder in your local folders?
> If I get an nntp error when I post something (mostly to
> eternal-september) the whole message disappears. No draft, not in the
> /tmp directory where stuff gets saved automatically SOMETIMES, nowhere.
> I need to remember save stuff as a draft before I try to post.
The Real Bev
Dec 6, 2012, 2:05:00 PM12/6/12
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On 11/30/2012 05:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/30/2012 04:08 PM, Restorm wrote:
>
>> On 11/30/2012 9:21 AM, richard.ep...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My Thunderbird often behaves much worse than that. Autosave saves a
>>> draft every few minutes (even if the message being composed hasn't
>>> changed) so that hundreds of versions of the message being composed
>>> accumulate in the Drafts folder (which is in my Local Folders).
>>> Assuming the Size column is reliable, it even saves copies of
>>> attachments. This wouldn't be a problem if Thunderbird were smart
>>> enough to delete all autosaved drafts when the message is sent or
>>> discarded (or provide an option to do that or an option that
>>> automatically color-highlights according to whether the
>>> corresponding message was sent, discarded, etc.). I shouldn't have
>>> to manually delete autosaved drafts, and especially not thousands
>>> of them. (My Drafts folder contained about 3000 this morning.) I've
>>> had the autosave interval set to 3 minutes. I'm going to change it
>>> to 10 minutes, with the expectation that this will reduce the
>>> problem by 70%.
>>>
>> Makes my problem sound small. Thanks!
>
> If I get an nntp error when I post something (mostly to
> eternal-september) the whole message disappears. No draft, not in the
> /tmp directory where stuff gets saved automatically SOMETIMES, nowhere.
> I need to remember save stuff as a draft before I try to post.
Is this a bug? Since the order seems to be send - delete draft - OOPS I
> On 11/30/2012 04:08 PM, Restorm wrote:
>
>> On 11/30/2012 9:21 AM, richard.ep...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My Thunderbird often behaves much worse than that. Autosave saves a
>>> draft every few minutes (even if the message being composed hasn't
>>> changed) so that hundreds of versions of the message being composed
>>> accumulate in the Drafts folder (which is in my Local Folders).
>>> Assuming the Size column is reliable, it even saves copies of
>>> attachments. This wouldn't be a problem if Thunderbird were smart
>>> enough to delete all autosaved drafts when the message is sent or
>>> discarded (or provide an option to do that or an option that
>>> automatically color-highlights according to whether the
>>> corresponding message was sent, discarded, etc.). I shouldn't have
>>> to manually delete autosaved drafts, and especially not thousands
>>> of them. (My Drafts folder contained about 3000 this morning.) I've
>>> had the autosave interval set to 3 minutes. I'm going to change it
>>> to 10 minutes, with the expectation that this will reduce the
>>> problem by 70%.
>>>
>> Makes my problem sound small. Thanks!
>
> If I get an nntp error when I post something (mostly to
> eternal-september) the whole message disappears. No draft, not in the
> /tmp directory where stuff gets saved automatically SOMETIMES, nowhere.
> I need to remember save stuff as a draft before I try to post.
would think that whoever thought this was OK was incompetent.
It's really hard to remember to save something by hand before I post it;
I'm used to trusting Mozilla products, and this is new.
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Ch rs,
B v
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My f ck ng k yb rd h s l st ts v w ls.
clay
Dec 6, 2012, 3:27:10 PM12/6/12
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