Changing date format in "Date" column
Gordon
System date format to UK (ie dd/mm/yyyy) but can't seem to find out how
to change the "Date" column format in TBird to that setting.
Can anyone point me to the answer?
thanks
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
this is for SeaMonkey, but it applied to TB also:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/DateTimeDisplay
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Nir
you should try this extensions "ConfigDate" :
"https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/901/"
after installing and restarting TB , goto
Tools>Extensions>ConfigDate>preference.
select proper settings there
Gordon
Unfortunately, neither suggestion works...(in fact the extension does
the about:config editing). The date is STILL mm/dd/yyyy and not
dd/mm/yyyy....
Carl Drud
Brian Heinrich
In ~/.bashrc, I have |export LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8|, which allows Tb to
display the date in ISO format (YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM).
Doing similarly with |export LC_TIME=en_UK.UTF-8| should do the trick for you.
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Syafril Hermansyah
> Unfortunately, neither suggestion works...(in fact the extension
> does the about:config editing). The date is STILL mm/dd/yyyy and not
> dd/mm/yyyy....
Well, I also was trying many extension and many trick but still not
working too.
At the end I install Change Quote and Reply format extension which
allow me to change Date in International Format. In combination with
Quick Local Switcher extension I got what I want ( I am using
en-GB time format), either Display Date column and reply quote time
using International format.
When I check using about:config I saw
changequote.headers.date_long_INT = True
http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/changequote-en.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1333/
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Syafril Hermansyah
> In ~/.bashrc, I have |export LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8|, which allows
> Tb to display the date in ISO format (YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM).
>
> Doing similarly with |export LC_TIME=en_UK.UTF-8| should do the
> trick for you.
Just curios, is it LC_TIME=en_UK.UTF-8 same as LC_TIME=en_GB.utf-8 ?
I just check I don't have en_UK.UTF-8 when checking in my computer
($ locale -a).
Tony Mechelynck
yes, British English is en_GB actually.
Best regards,
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Brian Heinrich
Sorry. Typo on my part. :-(
Syafril Hermansyah
> > Just curios, is it LC_TIME=en_UK.UTF-8 same as
> > LC_TIME=en_GB.utf-8 ?
> > I just check I don't have en_UK.UTF-8 when checking in my
> > computer ($ locale -a).
>
> Sorry. Typo on my part. :-(
Well no problem :-)
Do you know how to add Sender Date column on TB 1.5.x ?
Or at least how can I use sender date on my message attribution
(reply quote greetings).
I would like to have something like this :
-------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:19:56 -0700 (22/03/07 20:19 GMT +07:00 where
I live) Brian Heinrich wrote:
bla bla bla...
--------------------------------------------------------------------
is it possible ?
Tony Mechelynck
To change which columns appear, click the small widget at the far right of the
column title bar (above the scrollbar) and select or unselect fields.
To customize the message quote line:
(Windows) Tools => Options
(Unix/Linux) Edit => Preferences
(Mac) Thunderbird => Preferences
=> Advanced => Config Editor...
Enter "mailnews.reply" (without the quotes) in the "Filter" box. Then
double-click any of the settings you want to change. You will be asked for the
new value.
Best regards,
Tony.
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Tony Mechelynck
P.S. See also http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mailnews.reply_header_%2A
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Syafril Hermansyah
> To change which columns appear, click the small widget at the far
> right of the column title bar (above the scrollbar) and select or unselect
> fields.
I did and there is only single Date Column (I expect there are 2
type of date column : Receiving-Date and Sending-Date).
I saw you're using Thunderbird 2.0pre (X11/20070322), does it have 2
type date I mentioned above ?
BTW. It's not big deal though since message view pane already inform
the sender date.
> To customize the message quote line:
>
> (Windows) Tools => Options
> (Unix/Linux) Edit => Preferences
> (Mac) Thunderbird => Preferences
> => Advanced => Config Editor...
> Enter "mailnews.reply" (without the quotes) in the "Filter" box.
> Then
> double-click any of the settings you want to change. You will be
> asked for the new value.
I have done this (as you may seen in my mail attribution) but the
date mentioned in my reply quote still in my local time zone instead
of original sender date time zone.
Can you point me what preference I should change to use sender-date ?
I used to use %s as now and I believe changing this to other macro
is what I am looking for, but I can not find info or reference for
this (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mailnews.reply_header_%2A not
mentioned about this too).
Tony Mechelynck
> On 23/03/07 17:01 +07:00 Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> To change which columns appear, click the small widget at the far
>> right of the column title bar (above the scrollbar) and select or
>> unselect fields.
>
> I did and there is only single Date Column (I expect there are 2 type of
> date column : Receiving-Date and Sending-Date).
>
> I saw you're using Thunderbird 2.0pre (X11/20070322), does it have 2
> type date I mentioned above ?
It has Date (which is Date Sent) and Order Received (which is an integer, 0
for the oldest message in this newsgroup or folder, higher for later messages;
some integers may be missing, especially in newsgroups where messages have
been canceled).
>
> BTW. It's not big deal though since message view pane already inform the
> sender date.
>
>> To customize the message quote line:
>>
>> (Windows) Tools => Options
>> (Unix/Linux) Edit => Preferences
>> (Mac) Thunderbird => Preferences
>> => Advanced => Config Editor...
>> Enter "mailnews.reply" (without the quotes) in the "Filter" box. Then
>> double-click any of the settings you want to change. You will be asked
>> for the new value.
>
> I have done this (as you may seen in my mail attribution) but the date
> mentioned in my reply quote still in my local time zone instead of
> original sender date time zone.
>
> Can you point me what preference I should change to use sender-date ?
> I used to use %s as now and I believe changing this to other macro is
> what I am looking for, but I can not find info or reference for this
> (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mailnews.reply_header_%2A not mentioned about
> this too).
>
It may be possible to change it by means of the LC_MESSAGES or LC_TIME
environment variables but I'm not sure. (Their format is a language, country
and encoding, e.g., zh_TW.UTF-8 for Chinese (Taiwan) in UTF-8). IIUC, the
mailnews.reply_ etc. allows only to display the time, or not.
There may or may not be an extension to further customise the date in the
reply header. See:
http://addons.mozilla.org/
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
Each of these sites has extensions for all three of Firefox, Thunderbird and
SeaMonkey. You may have to follow some links to find those meant specifically
for Thunderbird.
Best regards,
Tony.
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Syafril Hermansyah
> It has Date (which is Date Sent) and Order Received (which is an
> integer, 0 for the oldest message in this newsgroup or folder, higher for later
> messages; some integers may be missing, especially in newsgroups where messages
> have been canceled).
So its the same as version 1.5, nothing change in this regard.
As you may aware there are many occasion the clock time of sender PC
not accurate (forgot to install atom time utility or activate ntp),
if using receiving date all message will refer to single time source
(even not accurate too); that makes threading mode looks good, more
accurate; at least TB user has choice which one match their need.
> > Can you point me what preference I should change to use
> > sender-date ?
> > I used to use %s as now and I believe changing this to other
> > macro is what I am looking for, but I can not find info or reference for
> > this (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mailnews.reply_header_%2A not
> > mentioned about this too).
> >
>
> It may be possible to change it by means of the LC_MESSAGES or
> LC_TIME environment variables but I'm not sure. (Their format is a language,
> country and encoding, e.g., zh_TW.UTF-8 for Chinese (Taiwan) in UTF-8). IIUC,
> the mailnews.reply_ etc. allows only to display the time, or not.
I have change the LC_TIME = en_GB.utf8, also using quick local
switcher I change the local to en-GB (about-config confirm it I saw
mailnews.reply_header_locale=en-GB), but without Change Quote and
Reply format extension press reply button still use en-US format in
mail attribution.
I am at home now, and I don't have Change Quote and Reply format
extension installed, I only have Quick Quote extension and luckily
quick quote follow the rule it's change the date format to en-GB as
expected.
Quick Quote extension not merely give you accurate date format in
reply but also give you ability to use selected reply text (as I
used to use in Sylpheed, claws-mail, Kmail, The Bat!, Becky!,
Forte-agent), IMHO it' s must be build in feature in ThunderBird
see URL : <http://quickquote.mozdev.org/index.html>
thanks to Daniel W. Steinbrook and Matteo Frederico Zazzetta for
this project.
the only lack of this extension is not give you ability to selected
forward text which is useful for list-moderator or list-admin of
mailing list that host using Ecartis list engine (for modify list
approval).
Hope next version of quick quote will have selected forward :-)
I never heard about LC_MESSAGE, will find out soon.
Thanks for your response.
Syafril Hermansyah
> How does one change the date format in the list, in the Date column?
> I did not see any setting for that.
Sounds like you didn't read the whole threads :-)
As I saw you're using Windows, what's Nir point out in article
<ErKdndbGl_OC95zb...@mozilla.org> valid for you,
herewith his quote :
--- begin copy ------
Gordon wrote:
> > Thunderbird version 1.5.0.9 (20070117) on PC LinuxOS. I have
set the
> > System date format to UK (ie dd/mm/yyyy) but can't seem to
find out
> > how to change the "Date" column format in TBird to that setting.
> >
> > Can anyone point me to the answer?
> >
> > thanks
you should try this extensions "ConfigDate" :
"https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/901/"
after installing and restarting TB , goto
Tools>Extensions>ConfigDate>preference.
select proper settings there
--- end copy ----
or using about_config extension (this extension actually just give
you shortcut to menu config editor in edit | Preference | Advance)
follow instruction in this URL :
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format
Tony Mechelynck
> On 23/03/07 18:24 +07:00 Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> It has Date (which is Date Sent) and Order Received (which is an
>> integer, 0 for the oldest message in this newsgroup or folder, higher
>> for later messages; some integers may be missing, especially in
>> newsgroups where messages have been canceled).
>
> So its the same as version 1.5, nothing change in this regard.
>
> As you may aware there are many occasion the clock time of sender PC not
> accurate (forgot to install atom time utility or activate ntp), if using
> receiving date all message will refer to single time source (even not
> accurate too); that makes threading mode looks good, more accurate; at
> least TB user has choice which one match their need.
Use "Order Received". It's not a date, but it is a value which increases
monotonously with the absolute time-received. (It is reset for mail folders,
restarting at zero, when the folder is empty and you "Compact" your folders,
but that's not a problem IMHO.)
[...]
> I never heard about LC_MESSAGE, will find out soon.
> Thanks for your response.
>
It's LC_MESSAGES (plural), and it's supposed to define the language of your
messages and menus (e.g., whether you see "On %d, %s wrote:", "Le %d, %s a
écrit:", "Op %d, %s schreef:", "В %d, %s написал:" etc.). On second thought, I
guess Thunderbird doesn't use it, or not much.
Best regards,
Tony.
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Tony Mechelynck
> did not see any setting for that.
By an environment variable, LC_TIME.
For instance, to get the date in UK format (English weekday names, but with
the day-of-month before the month), you would (on Linux) start Thunderbird with
LC_TIME=en_GB thunderbird
You could also use a shell script:
(Unix) start-tb (permissions -rwxr-xr-x)
#!/bin/bash
export LC_TIME='en_GB'
thunderbird $* &
(Windows) start-tb.bat
set LC_TIME=en_GB
thunderbird %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
Then use "start-tb" instead of "thunderbird" as the command to start your
mailer, either at the shell prompt (or in the Dos Box) or in a desktop icon
properties.
Best regards,
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Syafril Hermansyah
> Use "Order Received". It's not a date, but it is a value which increases
> monotonously with the absolute time-received. (It is reset for mail folders,
> restarting at zero, when the folder is empty and you "Compact" your folders,
> but that's not a problem IMHO.)
Ah sounds like the way sylpheed did, thanks for tips.
>> I never heard about LC_MESSAGE, will find out soon.
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>
> It's LC_MESSAGES (plural), and it's supposed to define the language of your
> messages and menus (e.g., whether you see "On %d, %s wrote:", "Le %d, %s a
> écrit:", "Op %d, %s schreef:", "В %d, %s написал:" etc.). On second thought, I
> guess Thunderbird doesn't use it, or not much.
Thanks for the info, will playing around on it.
It would be nice if next version of TB explore this mail attribution
more advance so we can have Folder Template (template for reply,
forward, Identity per folder basis) as in The Bat!.
In Bat! it's easy to create mail attribution in Indonesia language,
English, German etc depending on what we wish, even the dictionary
ones :-)
Syafril Hermansyah
> (Windows) start-tb.bat
> set LC_TIME=en_GB
> thunderbird %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
Wow, never thought LC_TIME also working in Windows envy.
Thanks for the tips Tony.
Tony Mechelynck
> On 24/03/07 14:07 +07:00 Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>> (Windows) start-tb.bat
>> set LC_TIME=en_GB
>> thunderbird %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
>
> Wow, never thought LC_TIME also working in Windows envy.
> Thanks for the tips Tony.
>
It does in some programs, not in others. If it doesn't work in Thunderbird,
you'll have to change your "National Settings" through the Control Panel.
Best regards,
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Syafril Hermansyah
> If it doesn't work in Thunderbird,
> you'll have to change your "National Settings" through the Control Panel.
Perhaps you mean "regional settings" in control panel :-)
Tony Mechelynck
> On 24/03/07 15:48 Tony Mechelynck said the following:
>> If it doesn't work in Thunderbird, you'll have to change your
>> "National Settings" through the Control Panel.
>
> Perhaps you mean "regional settings" in control panel :-)
>
Yeah, well, I've switched to Linux some months ago (with no intention of going
back), and my Windows was in French, and later (after a disk crash under
warranty) in Dutch, so I may be slightly off in the terminology.
I meant wherever it is that you tell Windows which language you want to use
and which country customs you want to follow.
Best regards,
Tony.
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