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Snorkelson MacBurp

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Aug 28, 2007, 10:44:52 PM8/28/07
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Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters are
going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly how soon?
The filtering currently available in TB is a little lacking.

Terry R.

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Aug 28, 2007, 11:01:53 PM8/28/07
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On 8/28/2007 7:44 PM On a whim, Snorkelson MacBurp pounded out on the
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> Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters are
> going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly how soon?
> The filtering currently available in TB is a little lacking.

Why "nudge to the Moz Champs"?

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Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 28, 2007, 11:24:09 PM8/28/07
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Terry R. wrote:
> On 8/28/2007 7:44 PM On a whim, Snorkelson MacBurp pounded out on the
> keyboard
>
>> Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters are
>> going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly how soon?
>> The filtering currently available in TB is a little lacking.
>
> Why "nudge to the Moz Champs"?
>


Message filters as in email filters or as in newsgroup filters?

Email filtering is already far more extensive than Newsgroup filtering
so the answer to your question depends on which you are referring to.

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

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Aug 29, 2007, 12:49:23 AM8/29/07
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especially the ones for newsgroups!

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Irwin Greenwald

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Aug 29, 2007, 1:19:17 AM8/29/07
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Your guess is a s good as anyone else's. See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16913

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squaredancer

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Aug 29, 2007, 6:30:09 AM8/29/07
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On 29.08.2007 07:19, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Irwin
Greenwald to generate the following:? :

> On 8/28/2007 7:44 PM, Snorkelson MacBurp wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters are
>> going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly how soon?
>> The filtering currently available in TB is a little lacking.
>>
>
> Your guess is a s good as anyone else's. See
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16913
>
>
usual "activity" there..... 8 years old, 63 votes, not assigned.....

reg

Snorkelson MacBurp

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Aug 29, 2007, 8:39:07 AM8/29/07
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Sorry about that, I meant for newsgroups.

Snorkelson MacBurp

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Aug 29, 2007, 8:39:45 AM8/29/07
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Terry R. wrote:
> On 8/28/2007 7:44 PM On a whim, Snorkelson MacBurp pounded out on the
> keyboard
>
>> Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters are
>> going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly how soon?
>> The filtering currently available in TB is a little lacking.
>
> Why "nudge to the Moz Champs"?
>

They tend to be more plugged in to the goings on about TB and/or FF.

Joshua Cranmer

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Aug 29, 2007, 8:53:51 AM8/29/07
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I agree, newsgroups are given *VERY* short shrift in TB.

However, I am currently working on a patch to ignore a subthread (should
help for some spam that likes to tack onto ongoing thread and pervasive
trolls).

It also seems that bug 16913 is much easier to fix now given the new
NNTP spec, but I don't know how widely that is supported...

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 29, 2007, 9:50:08 AM8/29/07
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As far as I can determine, there is nothing directly on newsgroup
filtering in the plans for Thunderbird 3. Thats not to say there won't
be some improvements made, but the conversion to XULRunner/frozen
links/mailnews strings conversion/ and other points have priority.
Generally speaking, it sounds as more emphasis is being put on the email
side of things for the time being.

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Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 29, 2007, 5:46:41 PM8/29/07
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Wayne Mery wrote:

> On 8/29/2007 9:50 AM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
>> Snorkelson MacBurp wrote:
>>> Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
>>>> Terry R. wrote:
>>>>> On 8/28/2007 7:44 PM On a whim, Snorkelson MacBurp pounded out on
>>>>> the keyboard
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know (nudge to the Moz Champs) if the message filters
>>>>>> are going to be expanded upon in future releases? If so, roughly
>>>>>> how soon? The filtering currently available in TB is a little
>>>>>> lacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why "nudge to the Moz Champs"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Message filters as in email filters or as in newsgroup filters?
>>>>
>>>> Email filtering is already far more extensive than Newsgroup
>>>> filtering so the answer to your question depends on which you are
>>>> referring to.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry about that, I meant for newsgroups.
>>
>>
>> As far as I can determine, there is nothing directly on newsgroup
>> filtering in the plans for Thunderbird 3.
>
> What "plan"? There is no public plan or wish list for TB 3 as far as I
> know.
>


No plan? What do you call these?
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/roadmap.html
see Thunderbird 3 heading
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/rumblingedge/archives/2007/05/thunderbird_3_trunk_news.html

Plans are there, and you can find news of them, if you care to look

Wayne Mery

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Aug 29, 2007, 7:20:09 PM8/29/07
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Thanks. I am aware of these. They are a starting point, but neither is
definitive nor a plan in the normal sense of the word.


** http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/roadmap.html (TB 3)

is but an rough statement. It offers two bullets:

1. "We are currently brainstorming about various user interface
improvements to take advantage of the advanced graphic rendering
work being done for Gecko 1.9."

I think graphics changes are not likely to lead to any substantial
feature improvements to the news or mail environment (not that I
believe the statement attempts to say that it will).

2. "additional user interface enhancements and many substantial
platform improvement"

The first phrase is what it is. The later phrase of platform
improvements speaks at least in part to your second URL plus
the substantial changes that come with Gecko 1.9.


**
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/rumblingedge/archives/2007/05/thunderbird_3_trunk_news.html


talks only of internal changes and linux requirements which will be
imposed because of Gecko 1.9


This is not to say no work is being done - a lot is happening on the
trunk, or that the developers aren't thinking about what they might
attempt. But no specific plan of UI and functional changes and
improvements has been made that I have found. Based on short
conversation with a developer a week or two ago, "the plan" might not
appear until Thunderbird's relationship to Mozilla Foundation/Mozilla
Corporation gets resolved.


If one wants to view the gory detail of Gecko 1.9 see
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko_1.9_Roadmap

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Aug 29, 2007, 9:13:49 PM8/29/07
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Your definition of a 'plan' and mine are different

Chris Ilias

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Aug 30, 2007, 2:28:20 AM8/30/07
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On 8/29/07 9:13 PM, _Moz Champion (Dan)_ spoke thusly:

> Your definition of a 'plan' and mine are different

Dan, the plan for Tb3 has not been drafted yet. They still need to
establish the organizational structure, before moving onto the Tb3 plan.
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