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Miles

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Jun 28, 2012, 3:34:16 AM6/28/12
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Recently changed from pop to imap and att/yahoo to google & TB 11 to
12 to 13. When sending a msg the contacts side bar is open to the
google account. All contacts are seen plus the groups it contains.

However, I cannot open a single group to send msgs to that group or to
select contacts from that smaller list. It is possible to right on a
group name and choose properties which opens a small window with the
list of contacts included in that group, but cannot find a method to
select from within that list and send to those selected, whether it be
one or several contacts.

Has there been a change in TB or could it be due to change to Google
or imap or ???
Miles

Steve

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Jun 28, 2012, 2:38:31 PM6/28/12
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If by 'group' you mean a TB mailing list, there is an add-on that allows
you to expand the list into individual contacts so that some can be deleted:

ADDEXPANDEDLIST

http://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html#explist

Chris Ramsden

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Jun 28, 2012, 3:05:00 PM6/28/12
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From: Steve <nos...@klik.net>

<snip>

>> However, I cannot open a single group to send msgs to that group or to
>> select contacts from that smaller list.

<snip>

>>
> If by 'group' you mean a TB mailing list, there is an add-on that allows
> you to expand the list into individual contacts so that some can be deleted:
>
> ADDEXPANDEDLIST
>
> http://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html#explist

You can obtain a similar effect by selecting the Mailing List in your
Address Book (/not/ the Contacts Sidebar) and clicking on the "Write"
button in the Address Book. This will start a new message with the List
exploded into its constituent Contacts.

IMHO it's rather a pointless function; it's only useful with a new
message (no good for replies or forwards) and all the addressees are
placed in "To:" boxes; very bad of it to encourage such sloppy netiquette.

So, +1 for http://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html#explist

I'd suggest to anyone using Mailing Lists that Mail Merge might be a
suitable alternative approach.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mail-merge/

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Chris

Miles

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Jul 18, 2012, 10:36:27 PM7/18/12
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* Steve wrote, On 29-Jun-12 01:38:
Downloaded to file and attempted to install from add-on window, but
received msg "this add-on could not be installed because it appears to
be corrupt." Deleted the add-on, re-downloaded and tried again with
same result. (Using TB 14)
Miles

Miles

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Aug 11, 2012, 1:59:14 AM8/11/12
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* Chris Ramsden wrote, On 29-Jun-12 02:05:
You're right that does work and does mark all as To, no choice of bcc.
Therefore would need to individually change all which I'm not about
to do with the 200 or so address changes I was about to send out, but
certainly won't bother with this dumb method.

This was an easy job a couple of versions ago, or is it a change
instituted by changing from POP to IMAP or instituting Google as the
account in lieu of att/yahoo? (I believe I selected all of the
entries and then chose BCC box in the list below which included To and
cc.)

Miles

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Aug 11, 2012, 3:06:13 AM8/11/12
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* Steve wrote, On 29-Jun-12 01:38:
Thanks, Steve, but it's of no value for me. All are in one long list
on one line and need to scroll back to the beginning to edit -- which
can be a very time consuming project.

What I need to do today is to change from TB 14 and go back to the
last last working version where one would select from the list and hit
the BCC button at the bottom and each entry would be in a separate
row. Do you happen to know the version and how to get it?
Miles

Chris Ramsden

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Aug 11, 2012, 4:59:21 AM8/11/12
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>
> What I need to do today is to change from TB 14 and go back to the
> last last working version where one would select from the list and hit
> the BCC button at the bottom and each entry would be in a separate
> row. Do you happen to know the version and how to get it?
> Miles
> __

Miles, that sounds like the Contacts Sidebar. Start a message (new,
reply, forward, whatever). In the write window, F9 or *View|Contacts
Sidebar* to reveal a sidebar which indeed has "add to..." buttons at the
bottom. It's not an add-on, it is built into TB.

TB won't let you send to 200 discrete addresses at once. The limit is
about 60. Even if TB let you do this, someone else (your ISP?) would
very likely block your message too.

There's another nic-nac add-on that offers the ability to change all the
addressing en bloc between To/Cc/Bcc, should you ever find yourself
needing to do this. Item 16 on the feature list.
https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/realborders-en.html

And I'll re-iterate my suggestion for Mail Merge to execute such large
postings. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mail-merge/

Chris.

Eckard

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Aug 11, 2012, 5:20:45 AM8/11/12
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Using TB 14 on a Mac I could install this add-on without problem.
Did you right-click on "Download" and choose "Save link as..." ?
After download you should see an "addExpandedList-1.0.3.xpi" file in
your download directory.

Miles

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Aug 11, 2012, 5:53:36 AM8/11/12
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* Eckard wrote, On 11-Aug-12 16:20:
Thanks, it downloaded and installed today, but it's not what is
needed. See my note time 14:06 today -- perhaps that's my time, not
yours -- not certain how that's listed without checking it out. But it
was a reply to Steve and came onto the thread immediately following yours.

Miles

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Aug 11, 2012, 5:59:37 AM8/11/12
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* Chris Ramsden wrote, On 11-Aug-12 15:59:
Yes, the side bar has that, but it only has the long list of contacts
with the names of the lists interspersed, not their included names as
was the case. Therefore I cannot select contacts from a list, can
only select the entire list (by name). (Believe I asked about this
prior, either in this thread or another as I didn't know if this
changes as attributable to changing from Pop to IMAP and ATT/Yahoo to
Google account and didn't get a reply.)

Don't believe I need mail merge, as there probably won't be over 60
addresses in each of 3 msgs to send this notice to. FYI, my carrier
allows 100 msgs, but if Google has it limited to 60 so-be-it, although
that is quite limited!
Miles

Eckard

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Aug 11, 2012, 6:45:26 AM8/11/12
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Le 11/08/12 09:06, Miles a écrit :
> * Steve wrote, On 29-Jun-12 01:38:
>> On 28/06/2012 2:34 AM, Miles wrote:
>>> Recently changed from pop to imap and att/yahoo to google & TB 11 to
>>> 12 to 13. When sending a msg the contacts side bar is open to the
>>> google account. All contacts are seen plus the groups it contains.
>>>
>>> However, I cannot open a single group to send msgs to that group or to
>>> select contacts from that smaller list. It is possible to right on a
>>> group name and choose properties which opens a small window with the
>>> list of contacts included in that group, but cannot find a method to
>>> select from within that list and send to those selected, whether it be
>>> one or several contacts.
>>>
>>> Has there been a change in TB or could it be due to change to Google
>>> or imap or ???
>>> Miles
>>>
>> If by 'group' you mean a TB mailing list, there is an add-on that allows
>> you to expand the list into individual contacts so that some can be
>> deleted:
>>
>> ADDEXPANDEDLIST
>>
>> http://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html#explist
>>
> Thanks, Steve, but it's of no value for me. All are in one long list on
> one line and need to scroll back to the beginning to edit -- which can
> be a very time consuming project.
>
If I got it right, you want to send a message to a selected group of
contacts from a list.
This is possible with the AddExpandedList add-on:

In the "Write" window display the Contacts Sidebar.
Right-click on your list and choose "Load list in the panel" in the
context menu, your list will be displayed in alphabetical order in the
sidebar.
Holding the Ctrl key, select the contacts to receive the message, then
choose Add to To (or Add to Cc, etc).

Or, if it's a long list, first select *all* contacts in the list, then
*unselect* the few contacts *not* to receive the message, choose Add to
To (or Add to Cc, etc)

See my screen shot
<http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i374/Berberich/?action=view&current=Liste6.png>


Miles

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Aug 11, 2012, 12:42:47 PM8/11/12
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* Eckard wrote, On 11-Aug-12 17:45:
Thank you, don't know why I couldn't make it work before, but it now
does -- much the same way as TB did a few months ago.
Miles


Mike Easter

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Aug 11, 2012, 1:18:01 PM8/11/12
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Miles wrote:

> my carrier allows 100 msgs, but if Google has it limited to 60
> so-be-it, although that is quite limited!

Gmail allows a pop/imap client to send to 100 addressee recipients.

The webmail is more lenient.

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22839

Google has suggestions about how to communicate with a larger number if
you are doing so on a regular basis.



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Mike Easter
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