Threaded view, message connection lines

[Ken Springer]

How can I make the lines thicker and darker?

The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
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[Wolf K]

On 2019-05-17 10:48, Ken Springer wrote:
> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>
> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.

Try adjusting the monitor's colour balance, brightness, and contrast.
That may be enough.

Within Thunderbird, you can use the Display options to change the text
and background, and so improve visibility.

Display - Formatting - Colors (button) - click Background button, and
pick the colour you like. I like the very pale yellow.

Best wishes,

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[Big Al]

On 5/17/19 10:48 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>
> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.

In my userChrome.css, these lines are there to make the lines black. I
tried changing the 1px to something like 3px to make them thicker but
that doesn't help, just the color seems to work.

/* make lines for threaded msgs solid black */
tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
treechildren::-moz-tree-line { border: 1px solid black !important;}

[Ken Springer]

On 5/17/19 9:14 AM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2019-05-17 10:48, Ken Springer wrote:
>> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>>
>> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
>
> Try adjusting the monitor's colour balance, brightness, and contrast.
> That may be enough.

You have no idea how useless it is, on this monitor and others I've
seen, to fiddle with those on screen settings.

I've been to websites where the developers have used light blues and
light greys to define the field borders and/or the background to also
show where fields are, and the monitors are just not capable of
displaying those shades.

> Within Thunderbird, you can use the Display options to change the text
> and background, and so improve visibility.
>
> Display - Formatting - Colors (button) - click Background button, and
> pick the colour you like. I like the very pale yellow.

That affects the message pane only, not the message listing pane. :-(

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Firefox 65.0

Thunderbird 60.6.1

[Ken Springer]

Unless userChrome.css is created by the user, the file is not on my Mac.


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[WaltS48]

On 5/17/19 2:42 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 5/17/19 9:37 AM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 5/17/19 10:48 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>>>
>>> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
>> In my userChrome.css, these lines are there to make the lines black.  I
>> tried changing the 1px to something like 3px to make them thicker but
>> that doesn't help, just the color seems to work.
>>
>> /* make lines for threaded msgs solid black */
>> tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-line { border: 1px solid black !important;}
>
> Unless userChrome.css is created by the user, the file is not on my Mac.
>
>

It is created by the user and must be placed in a folder named chrome
(all lowercase) in the profile folder.

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css>

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome-example.css>

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[WaltS48]

Thanks Al! That works great in my Thunderbird on Ubuntu.

[Ken Springer]

Worked in Windows 10, but not MacOS Mojave.

The text reminds me of HTML, could the word bold be stuck in there
somewhere and have an effect?


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Ken
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Thunderbird 60.6.1

[dillinger]

On 5/18/19 12:30 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

> On 5/17/19 9:37 AM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 5/17/19 10:48 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>>>
>>> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
>> In my userChrome.css, these lines are there to make the lines black.  I
>> tried changing the 1px to something like 3px to make them thicker but
>> that doesn't help, just the color seems to work.
>>
>> /* make lines for threaded msgs solid black */
>> tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-line { border: 1px solid black !important;}
>
> Worked in Windows 10, but not MacOS Mojave.
>
> The text reminds me of HTML, could the word bold be stuck in there
> somewhere and have an effect?
>
>

It's CSS, not HTML, and bold is for fonts, not for borders.

Apparently only solid, dashed and dotted have any effect here.

However, you can improve the contrast a bit for selected rows, add
something like this to what you have now:

treechildren::-moz-tree-line(selected, focus) {
border-color: HighlightText !important;
}

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Sat, 18 May 2019, at 08:15:05 +0200,
*-* In Article
<mailman.97.1558160289.5...@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* dillinger wrote
*-* About Re: Threaded view, message connection lines

Since the given code doesn't specify the tree type (folderTree,
threadTree), it should also work in the Folder Pane for the lines that
connect the folders within an account.

Ken Whiton
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[Wolf K]

On 2019-05-17 18:30, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 5/17/19 9:37 AM, Big Al wrote:
>> On 5/17/19 10:48 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>>>
>>> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
>> In my userChrome.css, these lines are there to make the lines black.  I
>> tried changing the 1px to something like 3px to make them thicker but
>> that doesn't help, just the color seems to work.
>>
>> /* make lines for threaded msgs solid black */
>> tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-line { border: 1px solid black !important;}
>
> Worked in Windows 10, but not MacOS Mojave.
>
> The text reminds me of HTML, could the word bold be stuck in there
> somewhere and have an effect?

Try changing "1px" to "2px". That's the width of the line. You can
change it back if you don't like the effect.

[Ken Springer]

I did. :-) For me, the difference in Windows was negligible.

[Ken Springer]

On my Mac (main system), it works for the Folder Pane, but not the
thread tree/list pane.

[Big Al]

On 5/18/19 10:23 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 5/17/19 5:36 PM, Wolf K wrote:
>> On 2019-05-17 18:30, Ken Springer wrote:
>>> On 5/17/19 9:37 AM, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 5/17/19 10:48 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>>> How can I make the lines thicker and darker?
>>>>>
>>>>> The defaults are almost invisible on some monitors.
>>>> In my userChrome.css, these lines are there to make the lines black.  I
>>>> tried changing the 1px to something like 3px to make them thicker but
>>>> that doesn't help, just the color seems to work.
>>>>
>>>> /* make lines for threaded msgs solid black */
>>>> tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>>>> tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
>>>> treechildren::-moz-tree-line { border: 1px solid black !important;}
>>>
>>> Worked in Windows 10, but not MacOS Mojave.
>>>
>>> The text reminds me of HTML, could the word bold be stuck in there
>>> somewhere and have an effect?
>>
>> Try changing "1px" to "2px". That's the width of the line. You can
>> change it back if you don't like the effect.
>>
> I did.  :-)  For me, the difference in Windows was negligible.
>

I changed it to 3px and in Linux saw no change.
border: is for table, buttons, or cell borders (usually). I find it
odd that the color part applies to the line since I don't think the
lines are parts of a table or cell or button etc that the 'border: 1px
solid black' would apply to.

[Ken Springer]

Could it be the lines arent lines at all, but the borders of a hidden
cell in a table?

It's also interesting, in the folder page, the lines are continuous.
But in the message list, the lines are disjointed, broken.