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responder

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:12:20 PM11/24/09
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I am trying this new release and have figured out how to keep virtually
all the original layout and tool bars, but since I have installed the
originals in the toolbar above, how can I get rid of the additional
header like area when in the read mail mode?

Thanks..

EE

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:54:40 PM11/24/09
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Why do you want to get rid of the header area in the message box? The
secondary toolbar with reply, forward, archive, and delete are there,
and the forward message button, at least, might be needed. The other
buttons can be placed in the main toolbar from the customize window, but
not that one.

responder

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:30:49 PM11/24/09
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Thanks for your reply....

I moved those buttons you referenced up to the top tool bar where I
prefer them to be.
I'm not too concerned about the other functions, but would like to have
the real estate back. I have my forward message button on top as well.

JoeS

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:24:44 PM11/24/09
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A lot of folks agree with you on the lose of screen real state.
You might like this extension:
http://compactheader.mozdev.org/installation.html
For RC1 version 0.99.8 should work.

--
JoeS Using TB3
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/Thunderbird_Binaries

clay

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:04:24 PM11/24/09
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On 11/24/2009 06:24 PM, JoeS wrote:
> On 11/24/2009 7:30 PM, responder wrote:
>> On 11/24/2009 6:54 PM, EE wrote:
>>> On 2009/11/24 16:12, responder wrote:
>>>> I am trying this new release and have figured out how to keep virtually
>>>> all the original layout and tool bars, but since I have installed the
>>>> originals in the toolbar above, how can I get rid of the additional
>>>> header like area when in the read mail mode?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> Why do you want to get rid of the header area in the message box? The
>>> secondary toolbar with reply, forward, archive, and delete are there,
>>> and the forward message button, at least, might be needed. The other
>>> buttons can be placed in the main toolbar from the customize window, but
>>> not that one.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply....
>>
>> I moved those buttons you referenced up to the top tool bar where I
>> prefer them to be.
>> I'm not too concerned about the other functions, but would like to have
>> the real estate back. I have my forward message button on top as well.
>>
>
> A lot of folks agree with you on the lose of screen real state.
> You might like this extension:
> http://compactheader.mozdev.org/installation.html
> For RC1 version 0.99.8 should work.
>

Thanks for the link.
Even with compactheader, the wasted space is excessive.
I like the concept of scrolling headers, if only there were a way to
make the area smaller (and get rid of the stupid icons)
Back to the drawing board... and back to V2

responder

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:57:20 AM11/25/09
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On 11/24/2009 9:24 PM, JoeS wrote:
> On 11/24/2009 7:30 PM, responder wrote:
>> On 11/24/2009 6:54 PM, EE wrote:
>>> On 2009/11/24 16:12, responder wrote:
>>>> I am trying this new release and have figured out how to keep virtually
>>>> all the original layout and tool bars, but since I have installed the
>>>> originals in the toolbar above, how can I get rid of the additional
>>>> header like area when in the read mail mode?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> Why do you want to get rid of the header area in the message box? The
>>> secondary toolbar with reply, forward, archive, and delete are there,
>>> and the forward message button, at least, might be needed. The other
>>> buttons can be placed in the main toolbar from the customize window, but
>>> not that one.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply....
>>
>> I moved those buttons you referenced up to the top tool bar where I
>> prefer them to be.
>> I'm not too concerned about the other functions, but would like to have
>> the real estate back. I have my forward message button on top as well.
>>
>
> A lot of folks agree with you on the lose of screen real state.
> You might like this extension:
> http://compactheader.mozdev.org/installation.html
> For RC1 version 0.99.8 should work.
>

JoeS....

A big thank you for this suggestion.
Makes it workable for me..0.99.8 is the one I used.

Ron Hunter

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:20:32 AM11/25/09
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For some reason, using .99.8 just causes the header area to go away
completely for me. Not a solution.

JoeS

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:55:32 AM11/25/09
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Maybe a conflicting extension, or some userChrome statement that conflicts.
See if here is anything in the error console.

clay

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:43:13 AM11/25/09
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Mine went away too until I noticed another new icon in the header field
that configured compactheader.

Ron Hunter

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:37:15 AM11/25/09
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I'm not sure what you refer to. When I turn on the compact header
extension, and click on the - icon, the whole header display area goes
away, and won't return.
This ONLY happens on my Windows 7 Home Premium system.

clay

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:25:48 PM11/25/09
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When I first installed it, my header pane turned into a thin line.
Opened the compactheader settings from within the add-on window and
messed with those (also messed with View>Headers) and the header pane
came back. Then I could see/access the compactheader icon on the header
pane.

EE

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:26:32 PM11/25/09
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On 2009/11/24 19:24, JoeS wrote:
> On 11/24/2009 7:30 PM, responder wrote:
>> On 11/24/2009 6:54 PM, EE wrote:
>>> On 2009/11/24 16:12, responder wrote:
>>>> I am trying this new release and have figured out how to keep virtually
>>>> all the original layout and tool bars, but since I have installed the
>>>> originals in the toolbar above, how can I get rid of the additional
>>>> header like area when in the read mail mode?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> Why do you want to get rid of the header area in the message box? The
>>> secondary toolbar with reply, forward, archive, and delete are there,
>>> and the forward message button, at least, might be needed. The other
>>> buttons can be placed in the main toolbar from the customize window, but
>>> not that one.
>>
>> Thanks for your reply....
>>
>> I moved those buttons you referenced up to the top tool bar where I
>> prefer them to be.
>> I'm not too concerned about the other functions, but would like to have
>> the real estate back. I have my forward message button on top as well.
>>
>
> A lot of folks agree with you on the lose of screen real state.
> You might like this extension:
> http://compactheader.mozdev.org/installation.html
> For RC1 version 0.99.8 should work.
>
Previous versions of Thunderbird have had header areas in the messages.
Why the sudden dislike of those areas now?

David Pyles

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:07:16 PM11/25/09
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Happens to me on my Win2K machine also.
Dave Pyles

Ron Hunter

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:50:33 PM11/25/09
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Thanks for the extra input. Could this be a conflict with some other
extension? I really don't have a lot of them in TB.

Thomas Harold

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:22:56 AM11/26/09
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On 11/26/2009 8:11 AM, Rolf Gloor wrote:
> For me:
> It is waste of space and confusion. Especially with the doubled icons.
> Moreover, the icons are oriented to the right.
> Most people in the world have LTR (not RTL) orientation and therefore
> focus on the left of a page/window. That is where the most important
> icaons are generally located.
> The icons in the header pane are - at least for me - very
> counter-intuitive.

They reason that they're on the right is (I think) so that they can be
displayed along with the from line without taking up additional vertical
space. Unfotunately, the buttons are a lot taller then the "from" line
so it doesn't look as clean as it should.

I would like to see them make it so that it displays both the
from/subject lines on the same line as the buttons - and move the time
elsewhere. That would make the buttons fit into the layout more
naturally and it wouldn't take up any additional vertical resolution.

Overall, I like the buttons there, I just think the layout in "View,
Headers, Normal" needs some tweaking.

Onno Ekker

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:16:17 PM11/27/09
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